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  • C Chris Maunder

    Autosave. Every 5 mins. PLEASE. You know how you get into the habit of hitting Ctrl+S at the end of each line, and then after a while you get lulled into a sense of complacency as things cruise along and there are no crashes. And then your saves get further and further apart - until you are at a point where you have just nailed a niggling problem after 30mins hair pulling and 5 lines of the most devious code and you are thinking 'one more semi-colon and then it's Ctrl+S time, baby'. And that's when it crashes. :mad: Just havin' a whine. cheers, Chris Maunder

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    Christian Graus
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    I agree - how on earth has autosave escaped the feature list for so long ? Ideally, a subdirectory that contains autosaved files, which would allow you to go back to the old version if all goes awry, but provides a backup for that lovely moment when you take the machine down in flames... Christian The content of this post is not necessarily the opinion of my yadda yadda yadda. To understand recursion, we must first understand recursion.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Autosave. Every 5 mins. PLEASE. You know how you get into the habit of hitting Ctrl+S at the end of each line, and then after a while you get lulled into a sense of complacency as things cruise along and there are no crashes. And then your saves get further and further apart - until you are at a point where you have just nailed a niggling problem after 30mins hair pulling and 5 lines of the most devious code and you are thinking 'one more semi-colon and then it's Ctrl+S time, baby'. And that's when it crashes. :mad: Just havin' a whine. cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Anders Molin
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      I guess that's why we all love beta software ;P - Anders

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      • C Chris Maunder

        Autosave. Every 5 mins. PLEASE. You know how you get into the habit of hitting Ctrl+S at the end of each line, and then after a while you get lulled into a sense of complacency as things cruise along and there are no crashes. And then your saves get further and further apart - until you are at a point where you have just nailed a niggling problem after 30mins hair pulling and 5 lines of the most devious code and you are thinking 'one more semi-colon and then it's Ctrl+S time, baby'. And that's when it crashes. :mad: Just havin' a whine. cheers, Chris Maunder

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        Richard Melton
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        I don't quite have the same problem. I start out by hitting ctrl-s at a normal pace, but as I work I find myself clacking that particular key combo repeatedly. It's like my pinky and middle finger are jonesing for another keypress. I consistantly find myself pressing control s after every word, sometimes after every letter, and to top that I'll mindlessly keep hitting it while I'm thinking about the code on the screen. Help Me! Blah!

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        • C Chris Maunder

          Autosave. Every 5 mins. PLEASE. You know how you get into the habit of hitting Ctrl+S at the end of each line, and then after a while you get lulled into a sense of complacency as things cruise along and there are no crashes. And then your saves get further and further apart - until you are at a point where you have just nailed a niggling problem after 30mins hair pulling and 5 lines of the most devious code and you are thinking 'one more semi-colon and then it's Ctrl+S time, baby'. And that's when it crashes. :mad: Just havin' a whine. cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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          How about: 1. Speeding up dependency checking (you know the scenario: on a large project the IDE sits there looking confused :confused: thinking about Life the Universe and Everything when you start a compile or debug run). This is a little less important now that machines are must faster, but I bet it still annoys a lot of people 2. Fix ClassView so that it doesn't lose classes 3. User defined folders in ClassView should be saved into the .DSP file (which can be checked into a Version Control System) rather than the .NCB/OPT files (which never are) :cool: 4. Make ClassWizard capable of woring out when the .CLW file needs to be rebuilt, so all classes in the workspace are shown, not just the ones added through ClassWizard 5. Improve the COM interface to add some of the things that are missing (for example, enumerating the files in a project) [perhaps a poll of the developers among us who write add-ins would yield an interesting list...] 6. Fix the source code control integration so that it degrades gracefully when a project is opened offsite with no database connection available, instead of throwing message boxes for every project :mad: [my company develops software for subsea navigation, and it's tricky to keep a permanent connection to a SourceSafe database open over a GSM phone connection...] 7. An option to lock the menu bar so I can't undock it (how many other people does this annoy?) 8. A better "Windows..." dialog (there's one on this site) 9. Find and Replace in Files I'll probably think of many more as soon as I post this, but this will do for now...;) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
          (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
          http://www.resorg.co.uk

          "I used to be a medieval re-enactor, but I'm (nearly) alright now..."

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          • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

            How about: 1. Speeding up dependency checking (you know the scenario: on a large project the IDE sits there looking confused :confused: thinking about Life the Universe and Everything when you start a compile or debug run). This is a little less important now that machines are must faster, but I bet it still annoys a lot of people 2. Fix ClassView so that it doesn't lose classes 3. User defined folders in ClassView should be saved into the .DSP file (which can be checked into a Version Control System) rather than the .NCB/OPT files (which never are) :cool: 4. Make ClassWizard capable of woring out when the .CLW file needs to be rebuilt, so all classes in the workspace are shown, not just the ones added through ClassWizard 5. Improve the COM interface to add some of the things that are missing (for example, enumerating the files in a project) [perhaps a poll of the developers among us who write add-ins would yield an interesting list...] 6. Fix the source code control integration so that it degrades gracefully when a project is opened offsite with no database connection available, instead of throwing message boxes for every project :mad: [my company develops software for subsea navigation, and it's tricky to keep a permanent connection to a SourceSafe database open over a GSM phone connection...] 7. An option to lock the menu bar so I can't undock it (how many other people does this annoy?) 8. A better "Windows..." dialog (there's one on this site) 9. Find and Replace in Files I'll probably think of many more as soon as I post this, but this will do for now...;) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
            (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
            http://www.resorg.co.uk

            "I used to be a medieval re-enactor, but I'm (nearly) alright now..."

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            Lost User
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            > 7. An option to lock the menu bar so I can't undock it I'm using this trick in VC++ 6.0 IDE: Go to Tools/Options/Workspace, and check 'Use screen reader compatible menus'. This changes menu bar from Office'97 style (grippers, icons, etc.) to standard one - you can't move it around. There are two problems with this: - (minor) you loose icons displayed next to menu items. - (serious) menu customizations are gone. The menu doesn't act as a target for commands drag'n'drop. Also, menus added by product integrating into IDE (like Rational's Visual Quantify/Purify) are displayed at the top level. All you can customize is the 'Tools' menu and 'Recent files/workspaces' submenus.

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              I don't quite have the same problem. I start out by hitting ctrl-s at a normal pace, but as I work I find myself clacking that particular key combo repeatedly. It's like my pinky and middle finger are jonesing for another keypress. I consistantly find myself pressing control s after every word, sometimes after every letter, and to top that I'll mindlessly keep hitting it while I'm thinking about the code on the screen. Help Me! Blah!

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              Datacrime
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              I think somethimes about having a petal below my office, that saves the document when i am in VC (Ctrl+S), outputs a "

              " when i am in homesite (<+t+a+b+l+e+ +c+e+l+l+s+p+a+c+i+n+g+=+"+0+"+ +c+e+l+l+p+a+n+d+i+n+g+=+"+0+"+>+<+t+r+ +v+a+l+i+g+h+t+=+"+t+o+p+"+>+<+t+d+>), and hard-refresh the window when i am in IE a couple of times (lots of Ctrl+R). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                I think somethimes about having a petal below my office, that saves the document when i am in VC (Ctrl+S), outputs a "

                " when i am in homesite (<+t+a+b+l+e+ +c+e+l+l+s+p+a+c+i+n+g+=+"+0+"+ +c+e+l+l+p+a+n+d+i+n+g+=+"+0+"+>+<+t+r+ +v+a+l+i+g+h+t+=+"+t+o+p+"+>+<+t+d+>), and hard-refresh the window when i am in IE a couple of times (lots of Ctrl+R). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                Lost User
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                Here you go... A USB footpedal control that can be programmed for whatever key sequences you require. http://www.xkeys.com/ Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net

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                  Here you go... A USB footpedal control that can be programmed for whatever key sequences you require. http://www.xkeys.com/ Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net

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                  Datacrime
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                  :rose: :) :) :) :) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                  • L Lost User

                    Here you go... A USB footpedal control that can be programmed for whatever key sequences you require. http://www.xkeys.com/ Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net

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                    l a u r e n
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                    rofl --- "every year we invent better idiot proof systems and every year they invent better idiots"

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                    • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                      How about: 1. Speeding up dependency checking (you know the scenario: on a large project the IDE sits there looking confused :confused: thinking about Life the Universe and Everything when you start a compile or debug run). This is a little less important now that machines are must faster, but I bet it still annoys a lot of people 2. Fix ClassView so that it doesn't lose classes 3. User defined folders in ClassView should be saved into the .DSP file (which can be checked into a Version Control System) rather than the .NCB/OPT files (which never are) :cool: 4. Make ClassWizard capable of woring out when the .CLW file needs to be rebuilt, so all classes in the workspace are shown, not just the ones added through ClassWizard 5. Improve the COM interface to add some of the things that are missing (for example, enumerating the files in a project) [perhaps a poll of the developers among us who write add-ins would yield an interesting list...] 6. Fix the source code control integration so that it degrades gracefully when a project is opened offsite with no database connection available, instead of throwing message boxes for every project :mad: [my company develops software for subsea navigation, and it's tricky to keep a permanent connection to a SourceSafe database open over a GSM phone connection...] 7. An option to lock the menu bar so I can't undock it (how many other people does this annoy?) 8. A better "Windows..." dialog (there's one on this site) 9. Find and Replace in Files I'll probably think of many more as soon as I post this, but this will do for now...;) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
                      (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
                      http://www.resorg.co.uk

                      "I used to be a medieval re-enactor, but I'm (nearly) alright now..."

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                      Lost User
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                      This must be THE most competent list of wishes I've seen. I was planning to write something like this but now I can just fully back up this list and hope that somebody (important enough :)) will see this. Even with a few of them I would be a much happier programmer...

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Autosave. Every 5 mins. PLEASE. You know how you get into the habit of hitting Ctrl+S at the end of each line, and then after a while you get lulled into a sense of complacency as things cruise along and there are no crashes. And then your saves get further and further apart - until you are at a point where you have just nailed a niggling problem after 30mins hair pulling and 5 lines of the most devious code and you are thinking 'one more semi-colon and then it's Ctrl+S time, baby'. And that's when it crashes. :mad: Just havin' a whine. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Kannan Kalyanaraman
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                        for the time being ;p check out this addin http://itay.come.to/autosave cheers kannan

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                          > 7. An option to lock the menu bar so I can't undock it I'm using this trick in VC++ 6.0 IDE: Go to Tools/Options/Workspace, and check 'Use screen reader compatible menus'. This changes menu bar from Office'97 style (grippers, icons, etc.) to standard one - you can't move it around. There are two problems with this: - (minor) you loose icons displayed next to menu items. - (serious) menu customizations are gone. The menu doesn't act as a target for commands drag'n'drop. Also, menus added by product integrating into IDE (like Rational's Visual Quantify/Purify) are displayed at the top level. All you can customize is the 'Tools' menu and 'Recent files/workspaces' submenus.

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                          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                          Yep, I found this one too - when I moved companies in June '98 I went from VC 4.2 (which was pretty snappy with a fast help system) to VC 5.0 with its (to my mind) terrible help system and its undockable menu bar...and I hated it. Fortunately, VC 6.0 is at lot better the 5.0, but it still has that damned menu bar... Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
                          (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
                          http://www.resorg.co.uk

                          "I used to be a medieval re-enactor, but I'm (nearly) alright now..."

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                            This must be THE most competent list of wishes I've seen. I was planning to write something like this but now I can just fully back up this list and hope that somebody (important enough :)) will see this. Even with a few of them I would be a much happier programmer...

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                            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                            Thanks Nenad - It's good to know that everyone else out there struggles with the same things I do every day. What's even better is knowing that the guys at Redmond keep one eye on the Lounge, so you never know...(besides which, Chris is probably taking notes for his next trip to Seattle) Cheers! Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
                            (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
                            http://www.resorg.co.uk

                            "I used to be a medieval re-enactor, but I'm (nearly) alright now..."

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