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  • M Marc Clifton

    Code:

    	public override string ToString()
    	{
    		string s = String.Empty;
    
    		for (long i = 0; i < this.k; ++i)
    		{
    			s += this.data\[i\].ToString() + " ";
    		}
    
    		return s;
    	} // ToString()
    

    I HATE WHEN PROGRAMMERS USE THIS. this.k??? Give me a FB!!!! That doesn't even make sense from a "I'm saving keystrokes by prefixing with "this." so Intellisense kicks in." Marc

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    Mark Salsbery
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    Visual Studio generated code uses it everywhere. Drives me nuts coming from a C++ background.

    Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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    • J jbarton

      I am not a fan of "this." as a prefix (coming from a C++ background). The place that I work at does new development in C# and has decided to use the Microsoft StyleCop to check the code style. One of the rules of the StyleCop is that member access must be prefixed by "this.". Apparently this is the Microsoft recommended way of indicating member variable access. John

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      Kevin McFarlane
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      jbarton wrote:

      Apparently this is the Microsoft recommended way of indicating member variable access.

      Basically, StyleCop is being used more and more across Microsoft teams so expect more of it going forward. It's the Java house style btw. Note that StyleCop is customisable though. You can disable that rule for your team.

      Kevin

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Code:

        	public override string ToString()
        	{
        		string s = String.Empty;
        
        		for (long i = 0; i < this.k; ++i)
        		{
        			s += this.data\[i\].ToString() + " ";
        		}
        
        		return s;
        	} // ToString()
        

        I HATE WHEN PROGRAMMERS USE THIS. this.k??? Give me a FB!!!! That doesn't even make sense from a "I'm saving keystrokes by prefixing with "this." so Intellisense kicks in." Marc

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        Ri Qen Sin
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        I simply use it because it helps me figure out what's a class member or not, although laziness is also a good justification. :)

        So the creationist says: Everything must have a designer. God designed everything. I say: Why is God the only exception? Why not make the "designs" (like man) exceptions and make God a creation of man?

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        • K Kevin McFarlane

          jbarton wrote:

          Apparently this is the Microsoft recommended way of indicating member variable access.

          Basically, StyleCop is being used more and more across Microsoft teams so expect more of it going forward. It's the Java house style btw. Note that StyleCop is customisable though. You can disable that rule for your team.

          Kevin

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          jbarton
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          I wish I could disable this warning. It was a decision from higher up that StyleCop would be used pretty much as is (a few warnings have been turned off, but for the most part they are all on). There is a check-in policy that says that there can't be any StyleCop warnings based on the global team settings. I can't turn it off just for my machine or I would get warnings and the check-in would fail.

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          • J jbarton

            I wish I could disable this warning. It was a decision from higher up that StyleCop would be used pretty much as is (a few warnings have been turned off, but for the most part they are all on). There is a check-in policy that says that there can't be any StyleCop warnings based on the global team settings. I can't turn it off just for my machine or I would get warnings and the check-in would fail.

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            Kevin McFarlane
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            Too bad for you. Personally I'm not much fussed by this rule. There are many things that irritate me more. :)

            Kevin

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            • D Dan Neely

              In vs2k3, intilisense didn't start as soon as you began typing. IF you weren't sure what the variable was called you had to type this. to make it come up. Not needed int 2k8, I never used 2k5; could just be an old bad habit.

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              Lost User
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              In 2k5 it also immediately comes up

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Code:

                	public override string ToString()
                	{
                		string s = String.Empty;
                
                		for (long i = 0; i < this.k; ++i)
                		{
                			s += this.data\[i\].ToString() + " ";
                		}
                
                		return s;
                	} // ToString()
                

                I HATE WHEN PROGRAMMERS USE THIS. this.k??? Give me a FB!!!! That doesn't even make sense from a "I'm saving keystrokes by prefixing with "this." so Intellisense kicks in." Marc

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                leppie
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                Man that is ugly code! Grrrrrr. Why do people never use string.Join ?

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                • K Kevin McFarlane

                  Too bad for you. Personally I'm not much fussed by this rule. There are many things that irritate me more. :)

                  Kevin

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                  TheCardinal
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                  i dont know why stylecop is pushing the "this." rule, while Resharper always yell at you when you do so.

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                  • M Mark Salsbery

                    Visual Studio generated code uses it everywhere. Drives me nuts coming from a C++ background.

                    Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                    Pawel Krakowiak
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                    Mark Salsbery wrote:

                    Visual Studio generated code uses it everywhere.

                    Designer files look like a Christmas tree when running ReSharper (full of warning notifications). :P

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Code:

                      	public override string ToString()
                      	{
                      		string s = String.Empty;
                      
                      		for (long i = 0; i < this.k; ++i)
                      		{
                      			s += this.data\[i\].ToString() + " ";
                      		}
                      
                      		return s;
                      	} // ToString()
                      

                      I HATE WHEN PROGRAMMERS USE THIS. this.k??? Give me a FB!!!! That doesn't even make sense from a "I'm saving keystrokes by prefixing with "this." so Intellisense kicks in." Marc

                      Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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                      Pawel Krakowiak
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                      I admit I was doing this as well when I started C# programming. Now I'm running ReSharper and it marks this keyword use as a warning so I clean them up whenever I find them in my old code. One use is when a private field has the same name as a constructor parameter, e.g.

                      public class A
                      {
                      private string name;

                      public A (string name)
                      {
                          //name = name; // ERROR
                          this.name = name; // OK!
                      }
                      

                      }

                      But of course this means you need some naming conventions. ;)

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                        i dont know why stylecop is pushing the "this." rule, while Resharper always yell at you when you do so.

                        Life - Dreams = Job TheCardinal CTC-RDG

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                        Kevin McFarlane
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                        I don't think it should be mandated. But OTOH why would Resharper explicitly reject it? What's their rationale?

                        Kevin

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                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                          I don't think it should be mandated. But OTOH why would Resharper explicitly reject it? What's their rationale?

                          Kevin

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                          TheCardinal
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                          dont know about jetbrain stand about it...maybe thats why they flag it as a warning. for me its a personal choice ;)

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                          • P Pawel Krakowiak

                            I admit I was doing this as well when I started C# programming. Now I'm running ReSharper and it marks this keyword use as a warning so I clean them up whenever I find them in my old code. One use is when a private field has the same name as a constructor parameter, e.g.

                            public class A
                            {
                            private string name;

                            public A (string name)
                            {
                                //name = name; // ERROR
                                this.name = name; // OK!
                            }
                            

                            }

                            But of course this means you need some naming conventions. ;)

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Pawel Krakowiak wrote:

                            One use is when a private field has the same name as a constructor parameter, e.g.

                            Which is the only time I use this. Marc

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Pawel Krakowiak wrote:

                              One use is when a private field has the same name as a constructor parameter, e.g.

                              Which is the only time I use this. Marc

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                              Pawel Krakowiak
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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              Which is the only time I use this.

                              Wouldn't it be better though to name the fields differently? I prefix all private fields with an underscore _. Um, I'm not looking to start that debate again. :P

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                              • P Pawel Krakowiak

                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                Which is the only time I use this.

                                Wouldn't it be better though to name the fields differently? I prefix all private fields with an underscore _. Um, I'm not looking to start that debate again. :P

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                Pawel Krakowiak wrote:

                                I prefix all private fields with an underscore _. Um, I'm not looking to start that debate again. :P

                                hehe. I personally don't like underscores, but at least I'm consistent in how I write my classes. :) Marc

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                                • S Single Step Debugger

                                  No C++ programmers in that thread. This.IsGreat(true); Personally, I really hate to see “::someMetod() “ in the code. Why it is so difficult for someone to type the base class name?!? - especially if you have a multiple inheritance.

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                                  shiftedbitmonkey
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                                  Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                  Personally, I really hate to see “::someMetod() “ in the code.

                                  That's not how the scope resolution operator is behaving in this instance. This usage says to look outside the class for resolution. So, if you're using a file function called: open, and you have a member of your class called open, and you want to open a file you'd prefix it as: ::open which would call the c function and not the C++ method.

                                  I've heard more said about less.

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