VMWare Worstation
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001VirtualBox[^] is decent. I've been using it for about a year now! Mike
Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I'd have to second Mike Hankey's comments, although the latest version of VMWare is very powerful and is "best of breed", Virtual Box (free) is beginning to catch it in features. But the difference in their requirements (disk space wise) is stark: Virtual Box requires about 30MB for Virtual Box itself. VMWare requires several hundred MB. However VMWare can support virtual machines that have two processors i.e. if your physical machine has >=2 CPU's, then you can create virtual machines that have 1 or 2 cpus. As far as I know, this is a unique feature. VMWare also is beginning to provide support for 3d acceleration. It's also slightly easier (and is better documented) than it's competitors, but like I say, it's increasingly hard to justify it's price premium. At one point Parallels Desktop for the PC looked good, it too was lightweight, easy to use etc, but it hasn't been updated for best part of a year, and is pretty much overtaken by Virtual Box now. Mike
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I only have experience of MS Virtual PC and VMWare Workstation. I prefer VMWare w/s for the USB support, although I run them both at times. The host-only VPN works exactly as described on the box. The only caveat I have is that if you have a USB device plugged in which emulates a CD drive (Vodaphone Mobile 3g modem, for instance), the guest OS won't boot. At half the price it would be a good buy, but I had to bite the bullet for legacy USB device support in Vista, via an XP VM.
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I have used Virtual PC, Virtual Box, and VMware Workstation. I keep going back to workstation because of its superior feature set. Until recently, it was the only one that supported USB well. Virtual Box 2.0 now does, but I have been having some problems with my USB stick with it where it wouldn't connect it to the vm. Workstation has never had a problem like that. Another one that clinches it for me is its excellent 64 bit support. You are also able to run a 64 bit guest now on a 32 bit host. Yes, I know that sounds strange, but we were doing it at my last job. As far as I can tell, Virtual box just is now supporting 64 bit. I wasn't able to install Vista 64 bit on my machine though (64 bit Vista host). I have done some networking testing with it, and it is nice to be able isolate the virtual network from your real network. Another nice feature is the spanning of multiple monitors with the virtual machines. Yes it is a very big download. Also, I have found that for optimal operation of the host, you should do the following calculation: Total Virtual Machine RAM running at once * 2 = host physical RAM. In my case, I have a 64 bit notebook with 4GB of physical RAM. I can run any combination of VMs that total about 2GB of virtual RAM. So, 4 512MB XP VMs, or 2 1GB Vista VMs, etc. I got my first copy of it at version 5. Version 6 was released about 2 years ago now, and I paid the 99 bucks. I will definitely pay the 99 bucks for 7 when it comes out. All in all, I would purchase it again over the free ones. It really is a lot better and more stable in my opinion. David
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001beta test the new version John. At least while it is available. beta testing is free. :) although you have to relicense or redownload every 30 days until they release. :)
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001While VMWare sure has its issues, it is very easy to configure and to use, and I like it especially for the following mature features: - Drag&Drop from the host to the guest and vice versa. - Very powerful snapshot manager (only available in the paid version, IIRC) - USB support (works especially well if you have to switch USB devices often, e.g. USB dongles or network service devices) - Automatic resolution adaption to the window size (it's such a PITA having to switch resolution by hand) At least the first three of these are in my opinion essential. And then there's debugging with the Debugger running on the host and the debuggee running on the guest, which I didn't use myself, but is another feature some people would miss and that's only available with the expensive version.
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box)
I am pretty sure that virtualbox does that too. As for my experience. I believe VMWARE workstation has faster disk access and better video than any other solution.
John
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VirtualBox[^] is decent. I've been using it for about a year now! Mike
Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site
Mike Hankey wrote:
VirtualBox[^] is decent.
Well, you should compile it on your own to use it for commercial purposes. The binary releases are only for evaluation and personal use. At any rate, it's an excellent product.
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I use it and love it. I use it heavily and for many reasons. Ask any question you want. To begin with... I'd pay $189 a year, every year to use it.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box)
I am pretty sure that virtualbox does that too. As for my experience. I believe VMWARE workstation has faster disk access and better video than any other solution.
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
I believe VMWARE workstation has faster disk access and better video than any other solution
One further caveat: the video drivers do not support colour profiles - not that many will need that. However, since a profile can be created, it can be loaded into a profile-aware app. to achieve the same result for that window only.
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VirtualBox[^] is decent. I've been using it for about a year now! Mike
Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001It's worth it if you are using it for serious purposes.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive
Expensive is relative I guess. I always factor my time into the cost of things. I've tried Virtual Box, it was no where near up to VMWare standards and if you factor in my cost as a developer if I spend even 1 hour extra using a free app that I wouldn't spend using VMWare it's easily break even at that point.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
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It's worth it if you are using it for serious purposes.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive
Expensive is relative I guess. I always factor my time into the cost of things. I've tried Virtual Box, it was no where near up to VMWare standards and if you factor in my cost as a developer if I spend even 1 hour extra using a free app that I wouldn't spend using VMWare it's easily break even at that point.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
*blink* I didn't realize you were doing well enough to make ~$400k/year. ($189*40*52 = $393k)
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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*blink* I didn't realize you were doing well enough to make ~$400k/year. ($189*40*52 = $393k)
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I've used VirtualBox and VMWare Workstation - I used VirtualBox while the VMWare purchase order was meandering through our IT supplier. I prefer VMWare Workstation - it just seems slicker than VirtualBox. Networking is easier to setup, USB devices seem to be easier to work with when using VMWare. I've not used the host-only networking, but if the bridged networking is anything to go by, it should be simple enough - have you looked at the users manual[^]?
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I think it has a trial doesn't it?
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This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001VMWare server has the same feature and it's free. I've only used server so can't compare it with the other features of workstation, but it seems to do it's job well. The main limit I think is that you are limited to one snapshot with server.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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I would be if I worked 52 weeks a year but I only work 25 and make half that.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
