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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    OregonGhost
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    While VMWare sure has its issues, it is very easy to configure and to use, and I like it especially for the following mature features: - Drag&Drop from the host to the guest and vice versa. - Very powerful snapshot manager (only available in the paid version, IIRC) - USB support (works especially well if you have to switch USB devices often, e.g. USB dongles or network service devices) - Automatic resolution adaption to the window size (it's such a PITA having to switch resolution by hand) At least the first three of these are in my opinion essential. And then there's debugging with the Debugger running on the host and the debuggee running on the guest, which I didn't use myself, but is another feature some people would miss and that's only available with the expensive version.

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      John M Drescher
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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box)

      I am pretty sure that virtualbox does that too. As for my experience. I believe VMWARE workstation has faster disk access and better video than any other solution.

      John

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      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

        VirtualBox[^] is decent. I've been using it for about a year now! Mike

        Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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        Dario Solera
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        Mike Hankey wrote:

        VirtualBox[^] is decent.

        Well, you should compile it on your own to use it for commercial purposes. The binary releases are only for evaluation and personal use. At any rate, it's an excellent product.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          code frog 0
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          I use it and love it. I use it heavily and for many reasons. Ask any question you want. To begin with... I'd pay $189 a year, every year to use it.

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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box)

            I am pretty sure that virtualbox does that too. As for my experience. I believe VMWARE workstation has faster disk access and better video than any other solution.

            John

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            Chris C B
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            John M. Drescher wrote:

            I believe VMWARE workstation has faster disk access and better video than any other solution

            One further caveat: the video drivers do not support colour profiles - not that many will need that. However, since a profile can be created, it can be loaded into a profile-aware app. to achieve the same result for that window only.

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              VirtualBox[^] is decent. I've been using it for about a year now! Mike

              Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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              :rolleyes: Virtual box is *no* VMWare workstation. It's decent in that it's free but that's about it.


              "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                It's worth it if you are using it for serious purposes.

                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive

                Expensive is relative I guess. I always factor my time into the cost of things. I've tried Virtual Box, it was no where near up to VMWare standards and if you factor in my cost as a developer if I spend even 1 hour extra using a free app that I wouldn't spend using VMWare it's easily break even at that point.


                "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                  It's worth it if you are using it for serious purposes.

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive

                  Expensive is relative I guess. I always factor my time into the cost of things. I've tried Virtual Box, it was no where near up to VMWare standards and if you factor in my cost as a developer if I spend even 1 hour extra using a free app that I wouldn't spend using VMWare it's easily break even at that point.


                  "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                  Dan Neely
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                  *blink* I didn't realize you were doing well enough to make ~$400k/year. ($189*40*52 = $393k)

                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                    *blink* I didn't realize you were doing well enough to make ~$400k/year. ($189*40*52 = $393k)

                    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                    I would be if I worked 52 weeks a year but I only work 25 and make half that.


                    "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      I've used VirtualBox and VMWare Workstation - I used VirtualBox while the VMWare purchase order was meandering through our IT supplier. I prefer VMWare Workstation - it just seems slicker than VirtualBox. Networking is easier to setup, USB devices seem to be easier to work with when using VMWare. I've not used the host-only networking, but if the bridged networking is anything to go by, it should be simple enough - have you looked at the users manual[^]?

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        code frog 0
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                        I think it has a trial doesn't it?

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          This post is aimed at people that paid the big bucks for VMWare Workstation. Is it worth it the purchase price compared to the "free" VM apps? I'm particularly interested in its ability to setup a host-only network (where the guest OS is limited to communications with the host OS on the local box), but I'm having a hard time with the pricing model. With a $189 buy-in, and $99 upgrade between major versions, it's a bit expensive.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          VMWare server has the same feature and it's free. I've only used server so can't compare it with the other features of workstation, but it seems to do it's job well. The main limit I think is that you are limited to one snapshot with server.

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                            I would be if I worked 52 weeks a year but I only work 25 and make half that.


                            "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                            Dan Neely
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                            Then you'd need to waste 4 hrs before VMware paid for itself, not 1. :cool:

                            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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