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  • P Pete OHanlon

    Not feelin' the love today Marc? We all loves ya baby.

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    Marc Clifton
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    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

    Not feelin' the love today Marc? We all loves ya baby.

    Heh. Thanks. :rose: My response is basically from putting my life into my work, only to have "thank you" being the hatred of other people in the company that, and I quote, "I can't put 'the Marc Clifton Framework' on my resume", or management saying "we can't guarantee your paycheck" or having to spend 6 weeks "proving" a technology that the client was supposed to invest in and now says "we're not going to do any more tool development." Marc

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      Not feelin' the love today Marc? We all loves ya baby.

      Heh. Thanks. :rose: My response is basically from putting my life into my work, only to have "thank you" being the hatred of other people in the company that, and I quote, "I can't put 'the Marc Clifton Framework' on my resume", or management saying "we can't guarantee your paycheck" or having to spend 6 weeks "proving" a technology that the client was supposed to invest in and now says "we're not going to do any more tool development." Marc

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      martin_hughes
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      "I can't put 'the Marc Clifton Framework' on my resume"

      Fools the lot of them, and you must tell them that Grizzly. In my world the Marc Clifton brand means quality, thoughtful, robust and intelligent code (most of which makes me wonder how the hell you came up with it in the first place) accompanied by hat wearing, beard growing and backwoodsman skills unseen since the pioneer days. If you want me to call them fools and/or abuse them in other ways on your behalf, post the email addresses and my services are at your disposal, gratis. :)

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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        "I can't put 'the Marc Clifton Framework' on my resume"

        Fools the lot of them, and you must tell them that Grizzly. In my world the Marc Clifton brand means quality, thoughtful, robust and intelligent code (most of which makes me wonder how the hell you came up with it in the first place) accompanied by hat wearing, beard growing and backwoodsman skills unseen since the pioneer days. If you want me to call them fools and/or abuse them in other ways on your behalf, post the email addresses and my services are at your disposal, gratis. :)

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        martin_hughes wrote:

        In my world the Marc Clifton brand means quality, thoughtful, robust and intelligent code

        You know, two things happened today. A friend got me laughing like I haven't laughed in ages, and now you lavish praises. Thanks for making my day. :-D Marc

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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          A few years ago I had a contract at a large corporation that did not have any games on their computers. Personally, it doesn't bother me because I come to work not play. One day I got a sly request full a full timer who wanted a game but didn't know how to ask. Since I am not a network tech I told her we couldn't install software without an official request. But then I had a nagging feeling that I wasn't being a people person so I showed her the games folder on the computer ... 9 times out of 10 corporate I.T. removes games from the start menu but not the machine; thinking of course that out of sight is the same as not installed. Anecdotal evidence suggests it made her more productive as she instantly responded to my emails ever since.

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          Interesting idea. I will try with my IT dept and hope for the best!!! I am hoping there will be someone nice like you there!!

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            Not feelin' the love today Marc? We all loves ya baby.

            Heh. Thanks. :rose: My response is basically from putting my life into my work, only to have "thank you" being the hatred of other people in the company that, and I quote, "I can't put 'the Marc Clifton Framework' on my resume", or management saying "we can't guarantee your paycheck" or having to spend 6 weeks "proving" a technology that the client was supposed to invest in and now says "we're not going to do any more tool development." Marc

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            Marc mate - you know you've always got a fanboy or two here on CP. I owe you so much, in the quality of your articles and the quality of your code - I point my team at your code and say "Learn. Learn from this man. This is how code is supposed to be written".

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            • M martin_hughes

              Marc Clifton wrote:

              "I can't put 'the Marc Clifton Framework' on my resume"

              Fools the lot of them, and you must tell them that Grizzly. In my world the Marc Clifton brand means quality, thoughtful, robust and intelligent code (most of which makes me wonder how the hell you came up with it in the first place) accompanied by hat wearing, beard growing and backwoodsman skills unseen since the pioneer days. If you want me to call them fools and/or abuse them in other ways on your behalf, post the email addresses and my services are at your disposal, gratis. :)

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              Indeed, if someone came to me with a resume that said "Work Experience: Marc Clifton Framework", I would hire them on the spot. Even if they admitted to programming in Java.

              Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river which gets slightly wider every day; sometimes it shrinks but nobody can predict when. Your client provides no concrete or steel, only timber and cut stone (but they won't tell you what kind). The coefficient of gravity changes randomly from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Tomz_KV wrote:

                People show appreciation if do something for them.

                If only that were true! :sigh: Marc

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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                Tomz_KV wrote: People show appreciation if do something for them. If only that were true!

                There has to be another factor: they have to anticipate that, having gotten something from you once, they might be able to get something else. If you're one-use like a Kleenex, expect to get crumpled up and thrown away.

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  Not feelin' the love today Marc? We all loves ya baby.

                  Heh. Thanks. :rose: My response is basically from putting my life into my work, only to have "thank you" being the hatred of other people in the company that, and I quote, "I can't put 'the Marc Clifton Framework' on my resume", or management saying "we can't guarantee your paycheck" or having to spend 6 weeks "proving" a technology that the client was supposed to invest in and now says "we're not going to do any more tool development." Marc

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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  to have "thank you" being the hatred of other people in the company that, and I quote, "I can't put 'the Marc Clifton Framework' on my resume",

                  It's not your responsibility to make some jerk's career. It's their responsibility to pick a position where they can expand their skill set...I believe that fine British term "whanker" applies here. Besides, if they had the brains that God gave any sheep in Wigan (thanks to Arthur C. Clarke and "Henry the Ninth" for that reference :-D ) they'd claim credit for helping to develop THEIR part of their company's "internal application framework."

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                  management saying "we can't guarantee your paycheck"

                  Mene tekel phares...see Lamentations for that one.

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  having to spend 6 weeks "proving" a technology that the client was supposed to invest in and now says "we're not going to do any more tool development."

                  WAY past time to update the resume X|

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                  • R Robert Royall

                    Indeed, if someone came to me with a resume that said "Work Experience: Marc Clifton Framework", I would hire them on the spot. Even if they admitted to programming in Java.

                    Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river which gets slightly wider every day; sometimes it shrinks but nobody can predict when. Your client provides no concrete or steel, only timber and cut stone (but they won't tell you what kind). The coefficient of gravity changes randomly from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer

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                    Robert Royall wrote:

                    Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river which gets slightly wider every day; sometimes it shrinks but nobody can predict when. Your client provides no concrete or steel, only timber and cut stone (but they won't tell you what kind). The coefficient of gravity changes randomly from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer

                    I need an "awestruck" smiley for that one :omg: but this will have to do. May I use it (with proper attribution)?

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                    • E El Corazon

                      They did that at the college I attended... so all the programmers wrote their own games. :)

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                      El Corazon wrote:

                      They did that at the college I attended... so all the programmers wrote their own games.

                      Or downloaded the source code for them, like that lovely little Tetris-like game that MS built for a Silverlight demo.

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                      • C cpkilekofp

                        Robert Royall wrote:

                        Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river which gets slightly wider every day; sometimes it shrinks but nobody can predict when. Your client provides no concrete or steel, only timber and cut stone (but they won't tell you what kind). The coefficient of gravity changes randomly from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer

                        I need an "awestruck" smiley for that one :omg: but this will have to do. May I use it (with proper attribution)?

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                        You can try - this is actually a cut down version of the quote on my whiteboard which was trimmed down to fit the character limit for sigs. If you can find a way to shoehorn it into your own signature box, please do so with my blessing. :-O

                        Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river which gets slightly wider every day; sometimes it shrinks but nobody can predict when. Your client provides no concrete or steel, only timber and cut stone (but they won't tell you what kind). The coefficient of gravity changes randomly from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer

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