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  • M Marc Clifton

    My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac

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    Might it be easier to get an Opteron based system for that many cores?

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      Cool, will that improve the content? :-D

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      Ha! Not likely.

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        Cool, will that improve the content? :-D

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        Trollslayer wrote:

        Cool, will that improve the content?

        Nope! Marc

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        • J Jim Crafton

          I don't know if this is relevant but I've been pretty happy with the Mac Pro I got a few months back. I've got it set up to triple boot between OS X, Windows XP, and Vista. But I'm not sure if that's really what you're looking for, or you want something like a rack based system.

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          Jim Crafton wrote:

          But I'm not sure if that's really what you're looking for, or you want something like a rack based system.

          Desktop would be preferable. This isn't really for a server, rather a high powered number crunching workstation. Marc

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            So your client is telling you what to recommend?

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            Marc Clifton
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            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            So your client is telling you what to recommend?

            No, I need to tell my client what I (and the folks here) recommend. Marc

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

              So your client is telling you what to recommend?

              No, I need to tell my client what I (and the folks here) recommend. Marc

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              Oh well that definitely makes it harder then. Since all such discussions will eventually mention it let me be the first, have you consider a cray?

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Jim Crafton wrote:

                But I'm not sure if that's really what you're looking for, or you want something like a rack based system.

                Desktop would be preferable. This isn't really for a server, rather a high powered number crunching workstation. Marc

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                OK, well then IMHO the Mac Pro is a good option, unless they are trying to be really cheap. Since the machine can hold up to 32Gb of RAM, you can install 64 bit windows to make better use of it, there's some info here: http://www.wintellect.com/CS/blogs/jrobbins/archive/2007/02/15/vista-x64-on-a-mac-pro-totally-awesome-dude.aspx[^]

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  Oh well that definitely makes it harder then. Since all such discussions will eventually mention it let me be the first, have you consider a cray?

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                  Since all such discussions will eventually mention it let me be the first, have you consider a cray?

                  Heh. Well, there is a budget! Marc

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac

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                    Do they need physical cores? I used to run a dual proc xeon that had dual cores with hyper-threading and it flew.


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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      Oh well that definitely makes it harder then. Since all such discussions will eventually mention it let me be the first, have you consider a cray?

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                      Marc asked for an 8 core system not an 800 core system. :cool:

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                        Do they need physical cores? I used to run a dual proc xeon that had dual cores with hyper-threading and it flew.


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                        Marc Clifton
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                        Ray Cassick wrote:

                        Do they need physical cores?

                        Yes, physical cores would be better. Marc

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                          OK, well then IMHO the Mac Pro is a good option, unless they are trying to be really cheap. Since the machine can hold up to 32Gb of RAM, you can install 64 bit windows to make better use of it, there's some info here: http://www.wintellect.com/CS/blogs/jrobbins/archive/2007/02/15/vista-x64-on-a-mac-pro-totally-awesome-dude.aspx[^]

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                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                          OK, well then IMHO the Mac Pro is a good option,

                          Hmmm, well, I'm concerned that there might be issues running Windows-based software that will be beyond the abilities of the client. He's a rocket scientist, not an IT person. :-D Marc

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Jim Crafton wrote:

                            OK, well then IMHO the Mac Pro is a good option,

                            Hmmm, well, I'm concerned that there might be issues running Windows-based software that will be beyond the abilities of the client. He's a rocket scientist, not an IT person. :-D Marc

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                            AFAIK your only issue is actually installing windows. Once you've done that, it's no different than using windows anywhere else. I haven't had any problems with software running in windows on it. If he is going to be doing the installation of Windows, then there might be an issue. But I'll leave that up to you :)

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac

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                              Dual quadcores you say - how about something based around an Intel SkullTrail? edit: now how would this cause confusion? "dual" means "composed of 2 parts" as we all know. 2 * 4 = 8. It's not like I'm saying "core2 duo quad" or something nonsensical like that.

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                                Marc asked for an 8 core system not an 800 core system. :cool:

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                                Whatever happened to planning for the future? :laugh:

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                                  Whatever happened to planning for the future? :laugh:

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                                  In a few years you can replace the current 8way box with a 64way one that's faster than a current 800way system that would cost far more than the buy now/upgrade later systems.

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                                    AFAIK your only issue is actually installing windows. Once you've done that, it's no different than using windows anywhere else. I haven't had any problems with software running in windows on it. If he is going to be doing the installation of Windows, then there might be an issue. But I'll leave that up to you :)

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                                    If it's just a matter of installing/configuring the box I believe the solution is called billable hours. :cool:

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac

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                                      I've heard good things about BOXX machines. Lots of options - their APEX machines go up to 32 cores, I think. Haven't tried 'em myself though, but worth a look. Check 'em out here[^] Cheers, Drew.

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac

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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites.

                                        Two words: CUDA, 280 however... SuperMicro X7DA8xx series are our current series at work. We buy top of the line XEON's with fancy coolers, and chassies that suck up small animals when they pass by. with an oct core you can pull about 800Gflop. With dual nv280's and some learnin' you can pull up to 2Tflop. 1 Tflop without pulling some magic. Combine the two and you have 1.8Tflop of computational power. :) mmmmmm makes me want to drool.... I have single quad+ dual 280 at home. :-D

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                                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                                          But I'm not sure if that's really what you're looking for, or you want something like a rack based system.

                                          Desktop would be preferable. This isn't really for a server, rather a high powered number crunching workstation. Marc

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                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          Desktop would be preferable. This isn't really for a server, rather a high powered number crunching workstation.

                                          Did you consider Tesla[^] or reject it for the difficulties of programming?

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