Recommendation for an 8 core system
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Oh well that definitely makes it harder then. Since all such discussions will eventually mention it let me be the first, have you consider a cray?
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Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Since all such discussions will eventually mention it let me be the first, have you consider a cray?
Heh. Well, there is a budget! Marc
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My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac
Do they need physical cores? I used to run a dual proc xeon that had dual cores with hyper-threading and it flew.
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Oh well that definitely makes it harder then. Since all such discussions will eventually mention it let me be the first, have you consider a cray?
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Do they need physical cores? I used to run a dual proc xeon that had dual cores with hyper-threading and it flew.
Ray Cassick wrote:
Do they need physical cores?
Yes, physical cores would be better. Marc
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OK, well then IMHO the Mac Pro is a good option, unless they are trying to be really cheap. Since the machine can hold up to 32Gb of RAM, you can install 64 bit windows to make better use of it, there's some info here: http://www.wintellect.com/CS/blogs/jrobbins/archive/2007/02/15/vista-x64-on-a-mac-pro-totally-awesome-dude.aspx[^]
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Jim Crafton wrote:
OK, well then IMHO the Mac Pro is a good option,
Hmmm, well, I'm concerned that there might be issues running Windows-based software that will be beyond the abilities of the client. He's a rocket scientist, not an IT person. :-D Marc
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Jim Crafton wrote:
OK, well then IMHO the Mac Pro is a good option,
Hmmm, well, I'm concerned that there might be issues running Windows-based software that will be beyond the abilities of the client. He's a rocket scientist, not an IT person. :-D Marc
AFAIK your only issue is actually installing windows. Once you've done that, it's no different than using windows anywhere else. I haven't had any problems with software running in windows on it. If he is going to be doing the installation of Windows, then there might be an issue. But I'll leave that up to you :)
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My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac
Dual quadcores you say - how about something based around an Intel SkullTrail? edit: now how would this cause confusion? "dual" means "composed of 2 parts" as we all know. 2 * 4 = 8. It's not like I'm saying "core2 duo quad" or something nonsensical like that.
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Marc asked for an 8 core system not an 800 core system. :cool:
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Whatever happened to planning for the future? :laugh:
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Whatever happened to planning for the future? :laugh:
In a few years you can replace the current 8way box with a 64way one that's faster than a current 800way system that would cost far more than the buy now/upgrade later systems.
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AFAIK your only issue is actually installing windows. Once you've done that, it's no different than using windows anywhere else. I haven't had any problems with software running in windows on it. If he is going to be doing the installation of Windows, then there might be an issue. But I'll leave that up to you :)
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If it's just a matter of installing/configuring the box I believe the solution is called billable hours. :cool:
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My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac
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My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac
Marc Clifton wrote:
Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites.
Two words: CUDA, 280 however... SuperMicro X7DA8xx series are our current series at work. We buy top of the line XEON's with fancy coolers, and chassies that suck up small animals when they pass by. with an oct core you can pull about 800Gflop. With dual nv280's and some learnin' you can pull up to 2Tflop. 1 Tflop without pulling some magic. Combine the two and you have 1.8Tflop of computational power. :) mmmmmm makes me want to drool.... I have single quad+ dual 280 at home. :-D
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Jim Crafton wrote:
But I'm not sure if that's really what you're looking for, or you want something like a rack based system.
Desktop would be preferable. This isn't really for a server, rather a high powered number crunching workstation. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
Desktop would be preferable. This isn't really for a server, rather a high powered number crunching workstation.
Did you consider Tesla[^] or reject it for the difficulties of programming?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
OK, well then IMHO the Mac Pro is a good option,
Hmmm, well, I'm concerned that there might be issues running Windows-based software that will be beyond the abilities of the client. He's a rocket scientist, not an IT person. :-D Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
He's a rocket scientist
Good luck! :-D :-D :-D welcome to the biz!!
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
So your client is telling you what to recommend?
No, I need to tell my client what I (and the folks here) recommend. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
No, I need to tell my client what I (and the folks here) recommend.
I tend to go off needs rather than desires, though we always need the highest of everything, so that pretty well covers it. I do have a question for you though.... Will there be high band memory access/transfer in the computation? In other words is this strictly numerical crunching or is it memory intensive as well? This will probably affect your choices, since many DP boards have low-band memory throughput. They are usually designed for I/O to the outside world or number crunching, not for swapping memory around. Though the memory is always interleaved and easily partitioned for multiple user access. I checked and two of our last three purchases were X7DA8+ and X7DB8+, the third I can't access. :) Any of your supermicro's check the bios, and flash right away if you have a newer processor than what the bios supports.
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My client would like me to recommend a system that has 8 cores, which I guess would be configured as two processors with quad cores. So I ask the experts here. Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites. So the quality of your next TV show or Internet connection might depend on the analysis we're performing! mac
Intel D5400XS mobo supports 2 * Core2 Quad or Xeon CPUs. This gives you 8 way with up to 16GB of RAM on board. Not exactly budget but certainly not Cray pricing either. Here's a froogle listing: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=intel+D5400XS&btnG=Search+Products&cid=13348298363898583723#ps-sellers[^] HTH - and let us know how it runs!
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Why, you may ask? Because we're running very computational intensive analysis on some switch network topologies used in communication satellites.
Two words: CUDA, 280 however... SuperMicro X7DA8xx series are our current series at work. We buy top of the line XEON's with fancy coolers, and chassies that suck up small animals when they pass by. with an oct core you can pull about 800Gflop. With dual nv280's and some learnin' you can pull up to 2Tflop. 1 Tflop without pulling some magic. Combine the two and you have 1.8Tflop of computational power. :) mmmmmm makes me want to drool.... I have single quad+ dual 280 at home. :-D
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El Corazon wrote:
mmmmmm makes me want to drool....
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Dual quadcores you say - how about something based around an Intel SkullTrail? edit: now how would this cause confusion? "dual" means "composed of 2 parts" as we all know. 2 * 4 = 8. It's not like I'm saying "core2 duo quad" or something nonsensical like that.
harold aptroot wrote:
Dual quadcores
I think I hear banjoes.
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harold aptroot wrote:
Dual quadcores
I think I hear banjoes.
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El Corazon wrote:
mmmmmm makes me want to drool....
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