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  • A anish_bhagwat80

    I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    Welcome to what U.S. local as experiencing. Unfortunately, there is a large amount of people that want to make money in I.T. because it is "easy" work leaving those of us that are good at it the needle in the haystack. Like any generality there are quite a few good coders all over the world in every country. The vast majority SUCK! When you combine poor language skills or a massive communications barrier (that is inclusive-or) then poor code is magnified greatly.

    Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
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    • A anish_bhagwat80

      I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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      Single Step Debugger
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      Five years ago I worked on some VoIP related project and I needed from some libraries for parsing H323 protocol. The company found some paid/and expensive/ solution created in India. It just doesn’t work. The Indian guys even send us parts from the source code with the hope that we will find their own bugs!!!!! So after we review the code/don’t ask…/ we drop this solution. Soon after that I found some open source libraries created from Australians and Chinese programmers and under GNU license. They worked like charm. The difference was like between broken bicycle and a Ferrari. This is only one case, but it illustrates the problem. The quality is more important then the price.

      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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        anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

        NO didnt get any directly but as discussion and advertise from China its look.

        WTF are you talking about?

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        I think he's been taking English lessons from Adnan...

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        • A anish_bhagwat80

          I wont say that i am the best. I just want to know where i am?In My case(Many Indians) English is not mother tongue. We learn English only for communicate with out side India. Any way thanks for suggestions. :)

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          anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

          In My case(Many Indians) English is not mother tongue

          FOR my case, and many Indians, English is not MY mother tongue

          anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

          We learn English only for communicate with out side India

          We LEARNT English only TO communicate with PEOPLE OUTSIDE India FYI correct grammer...

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          • A anish_bhagwat80

            I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            I don't have a clue about China to speak generally. But I've worked with a Chinese person on an embedded application development project for about 4 months. I must tell that he was an absolute genius. I learned aplenty from him. Surprisingly, he spoke very good English (the accent was terrible though, one can understand it but). But, when you have to generalise, you have to take into account what the vast majority are like. This one person and a few others like him, can't balance the stupidity of others. Sadly, the same goes with India. Well, more or less the same.

            Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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            • Z Zhat

              Maybe it to have do your you with we written code being youse like wriiting question these. Plus Chinaese learned use to URGENTZ in they there code questions.

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              Rajesh R Subramanian
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              Zhat wrote:

              URGENTZ

              hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

              Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                I think he's been taking English lessons from Adnan...

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                Adnan has a better command of the English language... Just look at how many people he manages to piss off. :)

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Adnan has a better command of the English language... Just look at how many people he manages to piss off. :)

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  True, except when he's angry or trying to insult someone, then he degenerates into just this sort of babel.

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                  • A anish_bhagwat80

                    See i am not in the mood of war i want to know just opinions of world. If reducing of quality is a fact it will help me to improve and other Indians too with the help of this discussion. And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than China at this moment. The reasons might be internal issue.

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                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                    anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                    See i am not in the mood of war.

                    Firstly, this is a public forum that thousands of professionals visit. So, your mood accounts to squat.

                    anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                    i want to know just opinions of world

                    Secondly, people are just giving you their opinions. You should not expect that they must share their opinion with yours. At times (like this), you will be the butt of a joke. But you are the reason. You started a thread like this and kept arguing against other's opinions, and that's *your* mistake. So, buy what they have to give you. If you ask me, silence would be a far better way to go.

                    Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                      Zhat wrote:

                      URGENTZ

                      hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

                      Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                      :laugh: :laugh:

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                      • P Pawel Krakowiak

                        This is good idea answer like asking question. ;)

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                        Zhat
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                        I still doubt he'll understand it though...

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                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                          Zhat wrote:

                          URGENTZ

                          hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

                          Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                          :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                          • Z Zhat

                            I still doubt he'll understand it though...

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                            Wanna' bet? :~ I think he will.

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                              anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                              And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than Chaina at this moment.

                              When we're talking levels of unacceptability, it doesn't matter much. Crap is crap. My God, you don't even spell China correctly - how the hell is someone supposed to understand your documentation?

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              Rajesh R Subramanian
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                              Forget that pal. I just love Chinese weme food. How about you? :)

                              Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                              • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                I don't have a clue about China to speak generally. But I've worked with a Chinese person on an embedded application development project for about 4 months. I must tell that he was an absolute genius. I learned aplenty from him. Surprisingly, he spoke very good English (the accent was terrible though, one can understand it but). But, when you have to generalise, you have to take into account what the vast majority are like. This one person and a few others like him, can't balance the stupidity of others. Sadly, the same goes with India. Well, more or less the same.

                                Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                                Apparently, for most of India, the grass is always greener on the other side.

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                                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                  Forget that pal. I just love Chinese weme food. How about you? :)

                                  Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                                  Oakman
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                                  Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                  Forget that pal. I just love Chinese weme food. How about you?

                                  Absolutely - also Vietnamese and Thai wome food. It makes a nice little fire in the belly.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                    Zhat wrote:

                                    URGENTZ

                                    hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

                                    Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                    hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

                                    Relax and have a little Japanese gir sushi.

                                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                      Five years ago I worked on some VoIP related project and I needed from some libraries for parsing H323 protocol. The company found some paid/and expensive/ solution created in India. It just doesn’t work. The Indian guys even send us parts from the source code with the hope that we will find their own bugs!!!!! So after we review the code/don’t ask…/ we drop this solution. Soon after that I found some open source libraries created from Australians and Chinese programmers and under GNU license. They worked like charm. The difference was like between broken bicycle and a Ferrari. This is only one case, but it illustrates the problem. The quality is more important then the price.

                                      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                      Oakman
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                                      Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                      The quality is more important then the price.

                                      Not to the average manager

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                        Zhat wrote:

                                        URGENTZ

                                        hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

                                        Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                        copywrited

                                        See, this is the problem with Indians. Everybody knows it's 'copywrote'.

                                        Cheers, Vıkram.


                                        "You idiot British surprise me that your generators which grew up after Mid 50s had no brain at all." - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                                        • S Shahil Shah

                                          anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                                          In My case(Many Indians) English is not mother tongue

                                          FOR my case, and many Indians, English is not MY mother tongue

                                          anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                                          We learn English only for communicate with out side India

                                          We LEARNT English only TO communicate with PEOPLE OUTSIDE India FYI correct grammer...

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                                          Shahil Shah wrote:

                                          anish_bhagwat80 wrote: In My case(Many Indians) English is not mother tongue FOR my case, and many Indians, English is not MY mother tongue

                                          It's "In my case" actually. Anish was right.

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