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Is Quality of indian software development is reducing day by day?

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  • R Rob Graham

    I think he's been taking English lessons from Adnan...

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    realJSOP
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    Adnan has a better command of the English language... Just look at how many people he manages to piss off. :)

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      Adnan has a better command of the English language... Just look at how many people he manages to piss off. :)

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      Rob Graham
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      True, except when he's angry or trying to insult someone, then he degenerates into just this sort of babel.

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      • A anish_bhagwat80

        See i am not in the mood of war i want to know just opinions of world. If reducing of quality is a fact it will help me to improve and other Indians too with the help of this discussion. And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than China at this moment. The reasons might be internal issue.

        modified on Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:29 AM

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

        See i am not in the mood of war.

        Firstly, this is a public forum that thousands of professionals visit. So, your mood accounts to squat.

        anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

        i want to know just opinions of world

        Secondly, people are just giving you their opinions. You should not expect that they must share their opinion with yours. At times (like this), you will be the butt of a joke. But you are the reason. You started a thread like this and kept arguing against other's opinions, and that's *your* mistake. So, buy what they have to give you. If you ask me, silence would be a far better way to go.

        Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

          Zhat wrote:

          URGENTZ

          hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

          Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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          :laugh: :laugh:

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          • P Pawel Krakowiak

            This is good idea answer like asking question. ;)

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            Zhat
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            I still doubt he'll understand it though...

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            • R Rajesh R Subramanian

              Zhat wrote:

              URGENTZ

              hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

              Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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              ToddHileHoffer
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              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

              I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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              • Z Zhat

                I still doubt he'll understand it though...

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                Wanna' bet? :~ I think he will.

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                • O Oakman

                  anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                  And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than Chaina at this moment.

                  When we're talking levels of unacceptability, it doesn't matter much. Crap is crap. My God, you don't even spell China correctly - how the hell is someone supposed to understand your documentation?

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  Forget that pal. I just love Chinese weme food. How about you? :)

                  Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                    I don't have a clue about China to speak generally. But I've worked with a Chinese person on an embedded application development project for about 4 months. I must tell that he was an absolute genius. I learned aplenty from him. Surprisingly, he spoke very good English (the accent was terrible though, one can understand it but). But, when you have to generalise, you have to take into account what the vast majority are like. This one person and a few others like him, can't balance the stupidity of others. Sadly, the same goes with India. Well, more or less the same.

                    Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                    Apparently, for most of India, the grass is always greener on the other side.

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                    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                      Forget that pal. I just love Chinese weme food. How about you? :)

                      Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                      Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                      Forget that pal. I just love Chinese weme food. How about you?

                      Absolutely - also Vietnamese and Thai wome food. It makes a nice little fire in the belly.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                        Zhat wrote:

                        URGENTZ

                        hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

                        Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                        hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

                        Relax and have a little Japanese gir sushi.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        • S Single Step Debugger

                          Five years ago I worked on some VoIP related project and I needed from some libraries for parsing H323 protocol. The company found some paid/and expensive/ solution created in India. It just doesn’t work. The Indian guys even send us parts from the source code with the hope that we will find their own bugs!!!!! So after we review the code/don’t ask…/ we drop this solution. Soon after that I found some open source libraries created from Australians and Chinese programmers and under GNU license. They worked like charm. The difference was like between broken bicycle and a Ferrari. This is only one case, but it illustrates the problem. The quality is more important then the price.

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                          Oakman
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                          Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                          The quality is more important then the price.

                          Not to the average manager

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                          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                            Zhat wrote:

                            URGENTZ

                            hay you or copyeng the what is we hvae copywrited in India. shat the fakup.

                            Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                            Vikram A Punathambekar
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                            Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                            copywrited

                            See, this is the problem with Indians. Everybody knows it's 'copywrote'.

                            Cheers, Vıkram.


                            "You idiot British surprise me that your generators which grew up after Mid 50s had no brain at all." - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                            • S Shahil Shah

                              anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                              In My case(Many Indians) English is not mother tongue

                              FOR my case, and many Indians, English is not MY mother tongue

                              anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                              We learn English only for communicate with out side India

                              We LEARNT English only TO communicate with PEOPLE OUTSIDE India FYI correct grammer...

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                              Shahil Shah wrote:

                              anish_bhagwat80 wrote: In My case(Many Indians) English is not mother tongue FOR my case, and many Indians, English is not MY mother tongue

                              It's "In my case" actually. Anish was right.

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                              • R Rob Graham

                                True, except when he's angry or trying to insult someone, then he degenerates into just this sort of babel.

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                                Gary Wheeler
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                                Babble. Although, from a play-on-words point of view, Babel[^] works too :-D.

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                                  anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                                  See i am not in the mood of war.

                                  Firstly, this is a public forum that thousands of professionals visit. So, your mood accounts to squat.

                                  anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                                  i want to know just opinions of world

                                  Secondly, people are just giving you their opinions. You should not expect that they must share their opinion with yours. At times (like this), you will be the butt of a joke. But you are the reason. You started a thread like this and kept arguing against other's opinions, and that's *your* mistake. So, buy what they have to give you. If you ask me, silence would be a far better way to go.

                                  Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                                  anish_bhagwat80
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                                  Thanks! Yes Mr. Rajesh You are true!

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                                  • A anish_bhagwat80

                                    I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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                                    Le centriste
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                                    Nothing made in China is of good quality. I don't expect that software would be an exception to that rule.

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                                    • O Oakman

                                      Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                      The quality is more important then the price.

                                      Not to the average manager

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      Not to the average manager

                                      True. I am voting a '5' for bringing out that. The gruesome dirty politics everywhere is what stinks more than worst shabby shit.

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                                      • A anish_bhagwat80

                                        I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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                                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                        anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                                        Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line?

                                        Some crazy marketing or gibberish managers promise a 3 hour shuttle service between Madras and Mars besides just trying to get low-cost low-profile staff on the pretext of cost-cutting. Someone in the forum once humourously quoted "You pay peanuts and end up getting monkeys". If that is the state of affairs, where on earth, are we going to focus on quality. We just are swelling in quantity with the number of street corner software development centers mushrooming up on every slum in our place.

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                                        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                          anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                                          Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line?

                                          Some crazy marketing or gibberish managers promise a 3 hour shuttle service between Madras and Mars besides just trying to get low-cost low-profile staff on the pretext of cost-cutting. Someone in the forum once humourously quoted "You pay peanuts and end up getting monkeys". If that is the state of affairs, where on earth, are we going to focus on quality. We just are swelling in quantity with the number of street corner software development centers mushrooming up on every slum in our place.

                                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
                                          Tech Gossips
                                          All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare

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                                          MidwestLimey
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                                          I've been getting the same feeling from this end. A decade ago peanuts got you a Physics Phd with a love of mathematics and software development. Now if you're lucky peanuts will get you a vaguely capable code monkey or if you're unlucky someone who can switch on a computer most days, it seems. India's great success in creating an affluent, successful and pricier middle class seems to have gone unnoticed by the bean counters in the west, however.

                                          Bar fomos edo pariyart gedeem, agreo eo dranem abal edyero eyrem kalm kareore

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