10 months unemployed....
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Good luck, man! Until recently(3-4 mths ago) I was on a 12 month slump of waiting tables. i got laid off prior to that. I got by, financially, just fine, but it sucks doing work you dislike. Although, I did have plenty of time to think about things, and met some really cool people. BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}
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NO VB!!! Just linux, Python, Apache, PHP, and some c/c++. I can dig that. Josh Knox that-guy.net
That isn't the dark side. That stuff is all fun. PHP is the best!(web-scripting language wise) Ryan Johnston
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That isn't the dark side. That stuff is all fun. PHP is the best!(web-scripting language wise) Ryan Johnston
Ryan Johnston wrote: PHP is the best! I'll second that. I use ASP when I have to, but PHP when I can. :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger
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Ryan Johnston wrote: Please don't say VB. I would rather program in VB than do web development for spammers. That seems to be the only IT jobs available in my city. :~ To me this is truly the dark side. I might as well sell my soul to the devil while I'm at it.
"I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?" -xterm
Kevnar wrote: I would rather program in VB than do web development for spammers. Gotta agree there... Kevnar wrote: That seems to be the only IT jobs available in my city. A city of spammers?:~ Where they at? :mad: I'll mobilize the CP Anti-Spammer Strike Force.;P Josh Knox that-guy.net
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That isn't the dark side. That stuff is all fun. PHP is the best!(web-scripting language wise) Ryan Johnston
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...but I've got an interview tomorrow morning!:-D I may be going over to the 'Dark Side' though. :eek: Wish me luck....I'm sick of painting and landscaping. Josh Knox that-guy.net
Good luck! Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger
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Actually the I haven't done any web development in a year. If I started into it again, I would probably check out asp.NET before I did anything else. A year ago though, I refused to even look at asp, because it was all written in VBscript (dirty nasty garbage). All the same, PHP is pretty cool. Ryan Johnston
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Shog9 wrote: avoid VB if at all possible though! Wont be seeing any of that on linux.:cool: Josh Knox that-guy.net
Really? Are you sure of that? :-D David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig
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Shog9 wrote: avoid VB if at all possible though! Wont be seeing any of that on linux.:cool: Josh Knox that-guy.net
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Actually the I haven't done any web development in a year. If I started into it again, I would probably check out asp.NET before I did anything else. A year ago though, I refused to even look at asp, because it was all written in VBscript (dirty nasty garbage). All the same, PHP is pretty cool. Ryan Johnston
The cool thing about ASP.NET is that it's language independent. You can use C#, VB.NET, J#, JScript.NET, or any other language that rests on the .NET platform. David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig
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Not so true my friend. http://www.janus-software.com/[^] David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig
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Not so true my friend. http://www.janus-software.com/[^] David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig
Sheesh, next thing ya know they'll be having a VB knock-off for the Mac. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger
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Not so true my friend. http://www.janus-software.com/[^] David Stone It seemed similar to someone saying, "Would you like to meet my knife collection?" Ryan Johnston on Elaine's sig
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Ryan Johnston wrote: Please don't say VB. I would rather program in VB than do web development for spammers. That seems to be the only IT jobs available in my city. :~ To me this is truly the dark side. I might as well sell my soul to the devil while I'm at it.
"I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?" -xterm
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Ryan Johnston wrote: PHP is the best! I'll second that. I use ASP when I have to, but PHP when I can. :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger
PHP for speed definitely, whether for linux, windows or whatever...but ASP if required for nt server or other servers if supported. I try to stay away from asp cause the speed and stability just isn't there. Apache all the way, IIS can stuff it...the security hole god of all servers heh. ColdFusion isn't a bad server though, that is for linux. It's unstable and a resource hog on nt...on linux it's almost 150% faster. As for the new .NET server, not running my server any time soon or ever. FreeBSD all the way :-D
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PHP for speed definitely, whether for linux, windows or whatever...but ASP if required for nt server or other servers if supported. I try to stay away from asp cause the speed and stability just isn't there. Apache all the way, IIS can stuff it...the security hole god of all servers heh. ColdFusion isn't a bad server though, that is for linux. It's unstable and a resource hog on nt...on linux it's almost 150% faster. As for the new .NET server, not running my server any time soon or ever. FreeBSD all the way :-D
ColdFusion as a language is pretty dirty though. I used it up through CF4. It's really tailored to rapid development, but for any kind of large project (and I have done a few using it) I found it to be pretty crapy (Do they have functions yet?). I can't argue that it isn't very very easy to use though. Ryan Johnston
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NO VB!!! Just linux, Python, Apache, PHP, and some c/c++. I can dig that. Josh Knox that-guy.net
Josh Knox wrote: NO VB!!! Whew! Had us scared there, for a moment. Don't think of it as selling out to the dark side, but more a rounding out of your skillset:-) Good Luck! "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."
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ColdFusion as a language is pretty dirty though. I used it up through CF4. It's really tailored to rapid development, but for any kind of large project (and I have done a few using it) I found it to be pretty crapy (Do they have functions yet?). I can't argue that it isn't very very easy to use though. Ryan Johnston
I agree. Give it time and it might just have its uses for large corporate database systems some day. I find it the easiest to work with when it comes to databases. Heh, it's like vb in a way, If blah = blah Then blahblah LOL. I use it on my nt system which is networked with my freebsd system for certain database functionality thats about it.
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...but I've got an interview tomorrow morning!:-D I may be going over to the 'Dark Side' though. :eek: Wish me luck....I'm sick of painting and landscaping. Josh Knox that-guy.net
Show off! I've only made 9. Josh Knox wrote: ...but I've got an interview tomorrow morning! :-D I may be going over to the 'Dark Side' though. :eek: Good luck in the interview. Who cares who you have to work for, anything technical is good. Josh Knox wrote: Wish me luck....I'm sick of painting and landscaping. Did you luck out and get to do the manual stuff full time. Or was it on and off, when ever they needed and extra man. This is how it has been for me. Can't even rely on the shit shovelling work for a constant supply of money. At least I am starting to find more jobs to apply too and more agents are ringing me up out of the blue. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Show off! I've only made 9. Josh Knox wrote: ...but I've got an interview tomorrow morning! :-D I may be going over to the 'Dark Side' though. :eek: Good luck in the interview. Who cares who you have to work for, anything technical is good. Josh Knox wrote: Wish me luck....I'm sick of painting and landscaping. Did you luck out and get to do the manual stuff full time. Or was it on and off, when ever they needed and extra man. This is how it has been for me. Can't even rely on the shit shovelling work for a constant supply of money. At least I am starting to find more jobs to apply too and more agents are ringing me up out of the blue. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
I was wondering when you'd reply. I knew you'd been out for a bit too. Michael Martin wrote: Did you luck out and get to do the manual stuff full time. Or was it on and off, when ever they needed and extra man. Nothing full time. I've been working on and off for a couple friends who have handyman type businesses when they needed a hand. At least I lost most of the programmers' gut I'd developed(still carrying some extra beer though :rolleyes: ) and get a little color. Also managed to bring in a meager amount of cash doing a couple of web pages, building computers, and doing tech support stuff on the side. Michael Martin wrote: Who cares who you have to work for, anything technical is good. I just want to get back to coding. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to start woking on some non-MS stuff to get a little more perspective on the industry. Only problem is that it's gonna be about 95F(35C) tomorrow and the A/C in my car's broke. :( Just hope I don't show up looking like a sweaty bastard. :~ Good luck Mike. Hopefully we're both back to work soon. Josh Knox that-guy.net