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  • 7 73Zeppelin

    Does the film directly and actively incite people to violence against a religious group? If not, then there's really not much to be done about it. The majority of people will just shrug and move on. I really don't think the film is really that much to worry about. No doubt just someone's opinion on radical Islam. I don't think it's going to influence millions of people.

    “It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.”

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    Rob Graham
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    73Zeppelin wrote:

    The majority of people will just shrug and move on.

    The majority of people will throw it directly in the trash. I don't know anyone who does differently with CDs or DVDs found inserted into magazines or newspapers. It's and advertisement, who the heck willingly subjects themselves to extra advertising?

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    • P Paul Conrad

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      immediately going to write my congressman

      I already did, for voting Aye on that bailout. I'll even underscore my seriousness by voting for the dude running against him.

      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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      I already did, for voting Aye on that bailout

      You wrote my congressman? :confused:

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      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

        Oakman wrote:

        he uses toilet paper.

        Propaganda. Everybody uses toilet paper. :| :rolleyes:


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        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

        Propaganda. Everybody uses toilet paper

        Adnan doesn't and he's proud of it.

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        • A A Wong

          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

          If you're implying age, then shame on you for sleeping with little girls.

          You've mistaken me for a Saudi men...

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          A Wong wrote:

          You've mistaken me for a Saudi men...

          or the Prophet himself.

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

            That's absurd. I gave one example of a caricature being removed on the government's insistence. Just because I can't recall the rest does not make me a liar. I am not a Muslim. I see wrong against every religion and subscribe to none. I thought the Da Vinci Code was pure propaganda (yes I read it), but it was written by a "Christian". I stand by what I said even if I am to be labeled whatever for it.


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            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

            I stand by what I said even if I am to be labeled whatever for it.

            I'll be glad to label you - as ignorant of how America works.

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              Paul Conrad wrote:

              I already did, for voting Aye on that bailout

              You wrote my congressman? :confused:

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              Oakman wrote:

              You wrote my congressman?

              :laugh: No, I meant to write my congressman :-O

              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                Respect is given, admiration is earned. You don't need to admire someone to show them respect.


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                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                Respect is given, admiration is earned

                Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.

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                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                  Respect is given, admiration is earned

                  Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.

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                  That's BS. Most people I know, personally and professionally, do show respect to one another even if they can't stand each other.


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                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                    Propaganda. Everybody uses toilet paper

                    Adnan doesn't and he's proud of it.

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                    You had a first-hand view of this? I'll believe you if you say yes. :laugh:


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                      It may indeed be an abuse. That is still not enough to justify prohibition. Only incitement to violence and attempt to defraud are valid reasons to interfere. The appropriate way to deal with propaganda is to demonstrate that it is false, and expose the purveyors true motives.

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                      Maybe so, but my point is prohibition is too late. Your way to deal with it is correct, but that's assuming people don't believe it immediately. Like WMD's for example. ;P


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                      • O Oakman

                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                        I stand by what I said even if I am to be labeled whatever for it.

                        I'll be glad to label you - as ignorant of how America works.

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                        Right! I'm wong and you're wright.


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                        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                          Right! I'm wong and you're wright.


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                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                          Right! I'm wong and you're wright.

                          Nope. Wong is wong and he's usually right. I'm Oakman and I am usually unerringly right. You are abdul and you are usually wrong

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            You wrote my congressman?

                            :laugh: No, I meant to write my congressman :-O

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                            Paul Conrad wrote:

                            No, I meant to write my congressman

                            I have trouble writing to my congressman. His name is Jack Spratt. (I kid you not.)

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                              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                              Right! I'm wong and you're wright.

                              Nope. Wong is wong and he's usually right. I'm Oakman and I am usually unerringly right. You are abdul and you are usually wrong

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                              Bassam Abdul Baki
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                              Must be a language thing since you missed the pun. Either that or you're as dense as an oak. You're only right when someone is standing to your left.


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                                That's BS. Most people I know, personally and professionally, do show respect to one another even if they can't stand each other.


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                                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                do show respect to one another even if they can't stand each other

                                It's certainly possible to respect someone you can't stand. I've met more than one person who I considered to be an arrogant asshole, but whose work was outstanding. I will usually play nice when I am forced to be in the company of friend's friends who I think aren't worthy of respect. But in that case, I am behaving with respect to my friend, not his friends.

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                                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                  Must be a language thing since you missed the pun. Either that or you're as dense as an oak. You're only right when someone is standing to your left.


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                                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                  You're only right when someone is standing to your left.

                                  Or when you've got the biggest gun.

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                                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                    do show respect to one another even if they can't stand each other

                                    It's certainly possible to respect someone you can't stand. I've met more than one person who I considered to be an arrogant asshole, but whose work was outstanding. I will usually play nice when I am forced to be in the company of friend's friends who I think aren't worthy of respect. But in that case, I am behaving with respect to my friend, not his friends.

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                                    So would you treat them with disrespect if your friends wasn't there? I doubt it.


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                                    • O Oakman

                                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                                      No, I meant to write my congressman

                                      I have trouble writing to my congressman. His name is Jack Spratt. (I kid you not.)

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                                      What a name. My congressman is Jerry Lewis. I used to respect the guy until he voted Aye, twice, for the bailout. DJIA is sure still heading downhill :eek:

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                        You're only right when someone is standing to your left.

                                        Or when you've got the biggest gun.

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                                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                        History is written by the victor, but history is full of lies and crap. I prefer living in the present.


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                                        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                          So would you treat them with disrespect if your friends wasn't there? I doubt it.


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                                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                          I doubt it.

                                          Doubt what the fuck you like but don't waste my time telling me what I would or wouldn't do. You don't know me, a$$hole, remember?

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