USA: “Obsession” Anti-Islam Film Angers Bloggers
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Respect is given, admiration is earned
Cultural difference is showing. In western culture, respect is not a matter of play-acting.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Propaganda. Everybody uses toilet paper
Adnan doesn't and he's proud of it.
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It may indeed be an abuse. That is still not enough to justify prohibition. Only incitement to violence and attempt to defraud are valid reasons to interfere. The appropriate way to deal with propaganda is to demonstrate that it is false, and expose the purveyors true motives.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
I stand by what I said even if I am to be labeled whatever for it.
I'll be glad to label you - as ignorant of how America works.
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Oakman wrote:
You wrote my congressman?
:laugh: No, I meant to write my congressman :-O
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Right! I'm wong and you're wright.
Nope. Wong is wong and he's usually right. I'm Oakman and I am usually unerringly right. You are abdul and you are usually wrong
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
do show respect to one another even if they can't stand each other
It's certainly possible to respect someone you can't stand. I've met more than one person who I considered to be an arrogant asshole, but whose work was outstanding. I will usually play nice when I am forced to be in the company of friend's friends who I think aren't worthy of respect. But in that case, I am behaving with respect to my friend, not his friends.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
do show respect to one another even if they can't stand each other
It's certainly possible to respect someone you can't stand. I've met more than one person who I considered to be an arrogant asshole, but whose work was outstanding. I will usually play nice when I am forced to be in the company of friend's friends who I think aren't worthy of respect. But in that case, I am behaving with respect to my friend, not his friends.
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Paul Conrad wrote:
No, I meant to write my congressman
I have trouble writing to my congressman. His name is Jack Spratt. (I kid you not.)
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What a name. My congressman is Jerry Lewis. I used to respect the guy until he voted Aye, twice, for the bailout. DJIA is sure still heading downhill :eek:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
You're only right when someone is standing to your left.
Or when you've got the biggest gun.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
I doubt it.
Doubt what the fuck you like but don't waste my time telling me what I would or wouldn't do. You don't know me, a$$hole, remember?
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k then tell me about this: Your first day as a camp instructor, and you are regarded as inconsequential and utterly unimportant by the regular staff and daycare workers that run the school you're sited at. The kids are wild. At the end, the parents show up, but the school's janitor has locked the closest gate (the one they're waiting at) and you will have to walk the kids out the front gate to meet them. Some parents come inside, to say "hi, ah there's my kid, cya." All of them have to sign each kid out. Some of the kids run off to their daycare, like every other day, but don't tell you. Then, when you're finally at the gate, a bellicose mother comes up to take her son, and, while he's busy talking loudly to his mom, she harangues you for having her wait 5 extra minutes in the sun on a (beautiful, but hot) 90 degree day. Do you A) respect her? B) tell her you don't get paid nearly enough to listen to her sh*t? Feel free to add other options.
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Aware of this? Yes, I've read about it for the past few weeks. I got one in the mail on Monday but it hit the trashcan as fast as the rest of my junk mail does.
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k then tell me about this: Your first day as a camp instructor, and you are regarded as inconsequential and utterly unimportant by the regular staff and daycare workers that run the school you're sited at. The kids are wild. At the end, the parents show up, but the school's janitor has locked the closest gate (the one they're waiting at) and you will have to walk the kids out the front gate to meet them. Some parents come inside, to say "hi, ah there's my kid, cya." All of them have to sign each kid out. Some of the kids run off to their daycare, like every other day, but don't tell you. Then, when you're finally at the gate, a bellicose mother comes up to take her son, and, while he's busy talking loudly to his mom, she harangues you for having her wait 5 extra minutes in the sun on a (beautiful, but hot) 90 degree day. Do you A) respect her? B) tell her you don't get paid nearly enough to listen to her sh*t? Feel free to add other options.
bulg wrote:
B) tell her you don't get paid nearly enough to listen to her sh*t?
B's fine. I might use somewhat less colorful language if the kids are around, but I have never suffered fools gladly.
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bulg wrote:
B) tell her you don't get paid nearly enough to listen to her sh*t?
B's fine. I might use somewhat less colorful language if the kids are around, but I have never suffered fools gladly.
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On the idea of respect - I absolutely agree it is earned, period. It can be earned because of some one's: opinion or positions (a smart gal/guy), their title (you can show respect to a title, but not necessarily the title holder), their skill at something - all irrespective of whether you like or admire them. I've worked with and for people I despised on a personal level but respected them for their technical skills or technical insight. Admiration is sort of like love. It is a feeling, not something you decide to give but something you can't help but feel, or not feel as the case may be.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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And I don't disagree with that. But respect should get equal footing as well. Some people believe religion should be respected before freedom. Some believe freedom above all else. I say if you had respect, you would have both. But people seem to lose sight of love thy neighbor and all that. And I'm not talking about the US or any particular country. I'm saying people in general, except playboy bunnies of course.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
except playboy bunnies of course
They don't get no respect? :mad:
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
do show respect to one another even if they can't stand each other
It's certainly possible to respect someone you can't stand. I've met more than one person who I considered to be an arrogant asshole, but whose work was outstanding. I will usually play nice when I am forced to be in the company of friend's friends who I think aren't worthy of respect. But in that case, I am behaving with respect to my friend, not his friends.
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Oakman wrote:
It's certainly possible to respect someone you can't stand.
Yeah, like Phil Collins. :laugh:
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right,
So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
it just propagates one
I didn't know you were into horticulture. In other words, when the fuck did Muslims adopt the idea of turning the other cheek? No, not those cheeks!
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Oakman wrote:
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Two wrongs don't makedo a right, [?] So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .
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