C# 4 -- Eric Lippert Responds
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This may be old news (hopefully it's not a repost). Eric Lippert responded to the heated discussion we had the other day here. See http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert/archive/2008/10/08/the-future-of-c-part-one.aspx[^]
Sunny Ahuwanya "The beauty of the desert is that it hides a well somewhere" -- Antoine de Saint Exupéry
Unfortunately, it's not much of a response at the moment. Eric can't directly answer what is or is not going to be in the language until Microsoft officially makes those announcements (which will happen in a few weeks at PDC). All I can say is that I think there will be some things that people are asking for (and some that people aren't) and that some people will like the direction the languages are heading and others won't. Like Eric, I'll have more I can say after PDC.
Scott Dorman
Microsoft® MVP - Visual C# | MCPD President - Tampa Bay IASA [Blog][Articles][Forum Guidelines]
Hey, hey, hey. Don't be mean. We don't have to be mean because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
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This may be old news (hopefully it's not a repost). Eric Lippert responded to the heated discussion we had the other day here. See http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert/archive/2008/10/08/the-future-of-c-part-one.aspx[^]
Sunny Ahuwanya "The beauty of the desert is that it hides a well somewhere" -- Antoine de Saint Exupéry
Sunny Ahuwanya wrote:
heated discussion
You should be :cool: cool :cool: instead, like us VB coders ;) :rose: <ducks>
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Rob Graham wrote:
Nice lesson in how to say nothing verbosely.
Steve Yegge[^] is probably the master of the art.
After reading that my left eye has swollen shut and my right eye is twitching uncontrollably.
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After reading that my left eye has swollen shut and my right eye is twitching uncontrollably.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
Where the hell do people find time and energy to type all that crap?
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Unfortunately, it's not much of a response at the moment. Eric can't directly answer what is or is not going to be in the language until Microsoft officially makes those announcements (which will happen in a few weeks at PDC). All I can say is that I think there will be some things that people are asking for (and some that people aren't) and that some people will like the direction the languages are heading and others won't. Like Eric, I'll have more I can say after PDC.
Scott Dorman
Microsoft® MVP - Visual C# | MCPD President - Tampa Bay IASA [Blog][Articles][Forum Guidelines]
Hey, hey, hey. Don't be mean. We don't have to be mean because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
Scott Dorman wrote:
All I can say is that I think there will be some things that people are asking for (and some that people aren't) and that some people will like the direction the languages are heading and others won't.
In other words, nothing to see here, move along, SNAFU...
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This may be old news (hopefully it's not a repost). Eric Lippert responded to the heated discussion we had the other day here. See http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert/archive/2008/10/08/the-future-of-c-part-one.aspx[^]
Sunny Ahuwanya "The beauty of the desert is that it hides a well somewhere" -- Antoine de Saint Exupéry
"pointed me at this long thread on a third-party forum" Is there some reason he can't simply write "CodeProject"? That's kind of lame otherwise.
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Where the hell do people find time and energy to type all that crap?
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
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It's okay to sleep. :-D
Sunny Ahuwanya "The beauty of the desert is that it hides a well somewhere" -- Antoine de Saint Exupéry
what is sleep? is that the forgotten time between collapse and alarm after working 16+ hours a day? :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Scott Dorman wrote:
All I can say is that I think there will be some things that people are asking for (and some that people aren't) and that some people will like the direction the languages are heading and others won't.
In other words, nothing to see here, move along, SNAFU...
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
Jim Crafton wrote:
In other words, nothing to see here, move along, SNAFU...
In a word...Yes. :)
Scott Dorman
Microsoft® MVP - Visual C# | MCPD President - Tampa Bay IASA [Blog][Articles][Forum Guidelines]
Hey, hey, hey. Don't be mean. We don't have to be mean because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
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This may be old news (hopefully it's not a repost). Eric Lippert responded to the heated discussion we had the other day here. See http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert/archive/2008/10/08/the-future-of-c-part-one.aspx[^]
Sunny Ahuwanya "The beauty of the desert is that it hides a well somewhere" -- Antoine de Saint Exupéry
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Exactly! I say we start an online Internot petition to shut him down. That'll show him the wisdom of the crowds, the righteous wrath of the many unsung heroes out there, the outraged obsolescence of the omnipotent group-think!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
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Exactly! I say we start an online Internot petition to shut him down. That'll show him the wisdom of the crowds, the righteous wrath of the many unsung heroes out there, the outraged obsolescence of the omnipotent group-think!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
YA! Make him spill the buckets. We want to see what's inside :D
Todd Smith
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"pointed me at this long thread on a third-party forum" Is there some reason he can't simply write "CodeProject"? That's kind of lame otherwise.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Is there some reason he can't simply write "CodeProject"?
I'm pretty sure there's some sort of training they put all new MS employees through, where they learn 1) how to write long, boring essays without actually providing any useful information, 2) how to avoid ever mentioning any product or company names that don't belong to Microsoft, 3) how to write about Microsoft implementations of ancient Unix tools such that they sound new and "innovative", 4) how to close bugs / squelch ideas using only references to secret priority rankings on a private, internal product management systems.
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Is there some reason he can't simply write "CodeProject"?
I'm pretty sure there's some sort of training they put all new MS employees through, where they learn 1) how to write long, boring essays without actually providing any useful information, 2) how to avoid ever mentioning any product or company names that don't belong to Microsoft, 3) how to write about Microsoft implementations of ancient Unix tools such that they sound new and "innovative", 4) how to close bugs / squelch ideas using only references to secret priority rankings on a private, internal product management systems.
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.
Hmm, this would an entertaining class to attend...
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what is sleep? is that the forgotten time between collapse and alarm after working 16+ hours a day? :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
16 hours? When do you take your generous holidays? I work 169 hours a week and still squeeze supper and beer in at the pub!;P
Q: What is the difference between a pigeon and a merchant banker? A: A pigeon can still put a deposit on a Ferrari.
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Sunny Ahuwanya wrote:
heated discussion
You should be :cool: cool :cool: instead, like us VB coders ;) :rose: <ducks>
:rose:
Q: What is the difference between a pigeon and a merchant banker? A: A pigeon can still put a deposit on a Ferrari.
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Exactly! I say we start an online Internot petition to shut him down. That'll show him the wisdom of the crowds, the righteous wrath of the many unsung heroes out there, the outraged obsolescence of the omnipotent group-think!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
Call Stan! A right wing people's revolution! :-\
Q: What is the difference between a pigeon and a merchant banker? A: A pigeon can still put a deposit on a Ferrari.
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This may be old news (hopefully it's not a repost). Eric Lippert responded to the heated discussion we had the other day here. See http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert/archive/2008/10/08/the-future-of-c-part-one.aspx[^]
Sunny Ahuwanya "The beauty of the desert is that it hides a well somewhere" -- Antoine de Saint Exupéry
I like how he immediately insults CodeProject in the first sentence. If you ask me, MSDN is the third-party forum! :) *edit* Sorry for the repoost :~
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java: