Architecture in Texas
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
Sorry - somehow had a premature ejaculation with that one ;)
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Sorry - somehow had a premature ejaculation with that one ;)
(i.e. hit send button too soon, the reply I commented on got deleted in the interim in case anyone thinks I was being unnecessarily offensive)
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Sorry - somehow had a premature ejaculation with that one ;)
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
Sounds about right. TBAE and the engineering cert board closely guard the title to those who take their exam regardless of one's education and work. It never bother me when I moved here since I had "Scientist" on my old business cards when I worked for a local semiconductor company.
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
That is interesting, and I can see how preturbed they can get about it if you are only using the work "Architect", but I am curious to see how enforceable it would be if you prepended it with "Software" since at that point you would not be actively engaging in or deceiving someone that you were in the practice of architecture. For instance, what about a "Naval Architect"?
modified on Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:19 PM
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That is interesting, and I can see how preturbed they can get about it if you are only using the work "Architect", but I am curious to see how enforceable it would be if you prepended it with "Software" since at that point you would not be actively engaging in or deceiving someone that you were in the practice of architecture. For instance, what about a "Naval Architect"?
modified on Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:19 PM
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Sorry - somehow had a premature ejaculation with that one ;)
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
I believe it is similar in Florida with the term Software Engineer unless you are actually a State licensed engineer.
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
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I believe it is similar in Florida with the term Software Engineer unless you are actually a State licensed engineer.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Interesting; I've never heard of that down here in Florida. There are quite a few local places that use the term "Software Engineer" to refer to a range of programming and development jobs within the state. Most such jobs are for code monkeys and require nothing more than the proverbial "[AA|BS] or equivalent work experience". Perhaps it is just not often enforced.
I have nothing against VB or .NET; all programming languages are respectable. It just seems that some languages attract one echelon of programmers, and other languages attract another echelon of programmers. :P
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Interesting; I've never heard of that down here in Florida. There are quite a few local places that use the term "Software Engineer" to refer to a range of programming and development jobs within the state. Most such jobs are for code monkeys and require nothing more than the proverbial "[AA|BS] or equivalent work experience". Perhaps it is just not often enforced.
I have nothing against VB or .NET; all programming languages are respectable. It just seems that some languages attract one echelon of programmers, and other languages attract another echelon of programmers. :P
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0471/ch0471.htm[^]
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
Yep, the same is true for engineers. If one is not a Registered Professional Engineer, it is illegal to use the title of Engineer. Furthermore, any company that calls itself anything with engineer or engineering in the name or in advertising must be prepared to show that they do indeed have Registered Professional Engineers in their employ and that those Registered Professional Engineers do indeed review and accept responsibility for all products. And, yes, the state boards do take things seriously, mainly because there have been too many cases of someone calling themselves an engineer or architect and fooling the public when they are not qualified. How many (normal?) people would ask an "Architect" how to design an IT system or ask an "Engineer" what design patterns they use most in software? In my opinion, the choice of title as "Software Architect" or "Software Engineer" is unfortunate, because both "Architect" and "Engineer" had legal meanings previous to the invention of the software related terms. I guess it makes companies, HR groups and/or people feel better if they give those jobs a fancy name. Something different without a preexisting legal meaning, perhaps like "Designer" would just as well convey the meaning and intent and not infringe on legal terminology. Walt Fair, Jr., P.E., Texas #76129
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
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Hi, reviewing MSDN's "Architecture" forum, I noticed the following... http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3748384&SiteID=1 According to this (from my reading), the term "Software Architect" is illegal in Texas! WTF Could cause some problems for all kinds of folks down there (figuratively, I'm in the UK so that's over there really). Any comments?
I know Texas has a license proceedure for "Software Engineer", so I expect this means that they have a license for "Software Architect" as well. I don't live there any more, the software engineer license was just coming out the last year I worked there. One of the more humorous requirements was that you had to be approved/nominated by some number of existing license holders even though there were exactly zero at the time.
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http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0471/ch0471.htm[^]
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Wow... Good to know. There are a couple companies around here in Lakeland that should be a lot more careful. Then again, perhaps the government is smart not to enforce silly laws on the businesses which pay its taxes.
I have nothing against VB or .NET; all programming languages are respectable. It just seems that some languages attract one echelon of programmers, and other languages attract another echelon of programmers. :P
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Wow... Good to know. There are a couple companies around here in Lakeland that should be a lot more careful. Then again, perhaps the government is smart not to enforce silly laws on the businesses which pay its taxes.
I have nothing against VB or .NET; all programming languages are respectable. It just seems that some languages attract one echelon of programmers, and other languages attract another echelon of programmers. :P
Your in Lakeland? I am flying there next week to give a Two Week Training.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
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Your in Lakeland? I am flying there next week to give a Two Week Training.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Born and raised. It's a wonderfully mediocre place to live. ;P
I have nothing against VB or .NET; all programming languages are respectable. It just seems that some languages attract one echelon of programmers, and other languages attract another echelon of programmers. :P
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Born and raised. It's a wonderfully mediocre place to live. ;P
I have nothing against VB or .NET; all programming languages are respectable. It just seems that some languages attract one echelon of programmers, and other languages attract another echelon of programmers. :P
Is there an extended stay there I can get for $250 a week or so? All of the hotels I am finding online want $75+ a night and the few that don't have such incredibly bad reviews that it even scares me off.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.