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deployment hell with .NET based applications

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  • P Patrick Klug

    Just spamming here... But I think the rant I just posted on the Microsoft Forum has some substance: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxsetup/thread/ef061340-9ddc-4219-8663-64d1448581e0[^]

    Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    From the link:

    As a customer I would feel... ...lost, and left alone in a jungle of words, of which I have not the faintest clue about.

    That made me laugh. Thanks, a good start for the day. :-D

    It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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    • P Patrick Klug

      Just spamming here... But I think the rant I just posted on the Microsoft Forum has some substance: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxsetup/thread/ef061340-9ddc-4219-8663-64d1448581e0[^]

      Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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      blackjack2150
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      That's an EPIC_FAIL for MS.

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      • P Patrick Klug

        Just spamming here... But I think the rant I just posted on the Microsoft Forum has some substance: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxsetup/thread/ef061340-9ddc-4219-8663-64d1448581e0[^]

        Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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        Graham Bradshaw
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        This is one of the reasons why we refuse to use .NET for commercial products. That, and the fact they don't work on Server 2008 Core.

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        • P Patrick Klug

          Just spamming here... But I think the rant I just posted on the Microsoft Forum has some substance: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxsetup/thread/ef061340-9ddc-4219-8663-64d1448581e0[^]

          Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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          wout de zeeuw
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          ClickOnce should take care of all that theoretically. But at least in .NET 2.0 it was not without its glitches, and it's a pain in the ass to setup as well. Maybe it's a bit better with .NET 3.5.

          Wout

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          • P Patrick Klug

            Just spamming here... But I think the rant I just posted on the Microsoft Forum has some substance: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxsetup/thread/ef061340-9ddc-4219-8663-64d1448581e0[^]

            Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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            realJSOP
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            Well, we deploy with no problem at all. We have our setups configured to download the appropriate dotnet installer from our own website, and it only downloads and installs if the appropriate version of dotnet does not yet exist on the system. Am I missing something?

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            • P Patrick Klug

              Just spamming here... But I think the rant I just posted on the Microsoft Forum has some substance: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxsetup/thread/ef061340-9ddc-4219-8663-64d1448581e0[^]

              Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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              Dave Parker
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              MS seem to be completely incapable of keeping links from their applications to websites working. The only version of Visual Studio I have installed is 2005 Team Developer yet whenever I go to MSDN if it tries to search online it always takes me to the Visual Studio.NET 2002 home page instead. And talking of deployment, one of our applications had a problem at a client site the other day and was failing and it turned out to be the lack of the .NET 2 service pack 1. Apparently service pack 1 adds an extra overload to GC.Collect() that we were calling, so on the clients server which didn't have the service pack it just bombed out. Took ages to trace the problem due to it being hosted within IIS and having a ton of other complications associated with it. Why are they adding new methods in service packs, aren't service packs supposed to fix bugs?

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              • P Patrick Klug

                Just spamming here... But I think the rant I just posted on the Microsoft Forum has some substance: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxsetup/thread/ef061340-9ddc-4219-8663-64d1448581e0[^]

                Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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                Todd Smith
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                Bill Gates would probably agree with you: Bill Gates Rant[^]

                Todd Smith

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                • R realJSOP

                  Well, we deploy with no problem at all. We have our setups configured to download the appropriate dotnet installer from our own website, and it only downloads and installs if the appropriate version of dotnet does not yet exist on the system. Am I missing something?

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Patrick Klug
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                  so, are you using the default installer, or do you use a third party setup software?

                  Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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                  • P Patrick Klug

                    so, are you using the default installer, or do you use a third party setup software?

                    Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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                    realJSOP
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                    Yeah - we used the msi installer that comes with vs2008. Keep in mind that we aren't doing anything fancy at all. Just putting some files in a folder and installing dotnet if necessary.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    • R realJSOP

                      Yeah - we used the msi installer that comes with vs2008. Keep in mind that we aren't doing anything fancy at all. Just putting some files in a folder and installing dotnet if necessary.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      Patrick Klug
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                      Sounds like a plan! Thanks!

                      Listen to the toad! www.dotnettoad.com[^]

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