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    Pawel Gielmuda
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    This was in today CP newsletter http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950525.aspx[^] This tool looks very interesting but after downloading and runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010 :(( :doh: Am I missing something? Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

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      This was in today CP newsletter http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950525.aspx[^] This tool looks very interesting but after downloading and runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010 :(( :doh: Am I missing something? Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

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      On the same link it says: Requirements * Operating System: Windows Vista 32bit / 64bit (on x64, only 32-bit (Wow64) processes are supported) * Development Tools: Visual Studio 2010 Team Suite, Team Test, Team Dev Editions But yes, if VS 2010 isnt out yet, why its tools then?

      Its never over !

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      • P Pawel Gielmuda

        This was in today CP newsletter http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950525.aspx[^] This tool looks very interesting but after downloading and runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010 :(( :doh: Am I missing something? Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

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        NeverHeardOfMe
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        Says so on their homepage: "Requirements Operating System: Windows Vista 32bit / 64bit (on x64, only 32-bit (Wow64) processes are supported) Development Tools: Visual Studio 2010 Team Suite, Team Test, Team Dev Editions" Nothing like being ahead of the game, eh.... but still running on crappy old Vista I see - haven't they heard of Windows 7?

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          This was in today CP newsletter http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950525.aspx[^] This tool looks very interesting but after downloading and runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010 :(( :doh: Am I missing something? Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

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          NormDroid
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          You mean to say you're not using VS 2010?, blimey I been using it for months, even the recruiters are looking for skill with it :rolleyes:

          Software Kinetics - Moving software

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            This was in today CP newsletter http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950525.aspx[^] This tool looks very interesting but after downloading and runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010 :(( :doh: Am I missing something? Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

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            Marc Clifton
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            Pawel Gielmuda wrote:

            runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010

            That's because it's like what Feynman wrote about regarding reviewing school textbooks from the publisher (which were all blank pages, you simply judged the textbook by its cover and thickness). There is no code yet, and they figure this way, they have a year or more to build up the hype and actually get something working. I predict it won't be around in 12 months. No actually, it'll have gone through several incarnations and renames with beta's and CTP's of different versions, leaving the developer wondering where and what is the most up-to-date distribution. Like synchronization services. Like Object Spaces / Entity Framework / LinqSQL. Microsoft seems to be developing technology so fast that it obsoletes current work before it even has had a chance to be RTM'd. Now there's another buzzword "RTW." Release to WEB. Another step in the "here's some untested stuff we threw together for you to gnash your teeth on." Marc

            Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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              You mean to say you're not using VS 2010?, blimey I been using it for months, even the recruiters are looking for skill with it :rolleyes:

              Software Kinetics - Moving software

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              Simon P Stevens
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              Wanted: C# developer with 10 years experience in Vs2010 technologies. :laugh:

              Simon

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                Wanted: C# developer with 10 years experience in Vs2010 technologies. :laugh:

                Simon

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                NormDroid
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                I'm your man, The irony of Pex "If you are not sure if you found a bug in Pex, feel free to write a message in this forum".

                Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                  Pawel Gielmuda wrote:

                  runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010

                  That's because it's like what Feynman wrote about regarding reviewing school textbooks from the publisher (which were all blank pages, you simply judged the textbook by its cover and thickness). There is no code yet, and they figure this way, they have a year or more to build up the hype and actually get something working. I predict it won't be around in 12 months. No actually, it'll have gone through several incarnations and renames with beta's and CTP's of different versions, leaving the developer wondering where and what is the most up-to-date distribution. Like synchronization services. Like Object Spaces / Entity Framework / LinqSQL. Microsoft seems to be developing technology so fast that it obsoletes current work before it even has had a chance to be RTM'd. Now there's another buzzword "RTW." Release to WEB. Another step in the "here's some untested stuff we threw together for you to gnash your teeth on." Marc

                  Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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                  martin_hughes
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                  Sounds just like my Sooper Dooper Framework for .Net, Java, Dynamic and Native Languages. It's a paradigm shifting, proactive, enabling system which solves every gripe you ever had about just about any language. The pre-alpha-CTP-beta-framework is available here!. To install it you'll need a Quantum Computer, Visual Studio 2256, a 1:1 scale replica of the Starship Enterprise, three Wookie operators and it'll only work on the third Tuesday after Michaelmas when the wind is blowing from the east.

                  My Bookmarks

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                    Sounds just like my Sooper Dooper Framework for .Net, Java, Dynamic and Native Languages. It's a paradigm shifting, proactive, enabling system which solves every gripe you ever had about just about any language. The pre-alpha-CTP-beta-framework is available here!. To install it you'll need a Quantum Computer, Visual Studio 2256, a 1:1 scale replica of the Starship Enterprise, three Wookie operators and it'll only work on the third Tuesday after Michaelmas when the wind is blowing from the east.

                    My Bookmarks

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                    Matthew Faithfull
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                    That's OK I have a VM that just happens to be set up just like that. Can I suscribe to be bombarded with spam every time you update the download so I can download the update before your upload is outdated? Perhaps if I promise to remote any errors and not blog my customer experience? :)

                    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                      Sounds just like my Sooper Dooper Framework for .Net, Java, Dynamic and Native Languages. It's a paradigm shifting, proactive, enabling system which solves every gripe you ever had about just about any language. The pre-alpha-CTP-beta-framework is available here!. To install it you'll need a Quantum Computer, Visual Studio 2256, a 1:1 scale replica of the Starship Enterprise, three Wookie operators and it'll only work on the third Tuesday after Michaelmas when the wind is blowing from the east.

                      My Bookmarks

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                      Simon P Stevens
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                      martin_hughes wrote:

                      To install it you'll need a Quantum Computer, Visual Studio 2256, a 1:1 scale replica of the Starship Enterprise, three Wookie operators and it'll only work on the third Tuesday after Michaelmas when the wind is blowing from the east.

                      Dammit. The wind is blowing from the south here.

                      Simon

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                        martin_hughes wrote:

                        To install it you'll need a Quantum Computer, Visual Studio 2256, a 1:1 scale replica of the Starship Enterprise, three Wookie operators and it'll only work on the third Tuesday after Michaelmas when the wind is blowing from the east.

                        Dammit. The wind is blowing from the south here.

                        Simon

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                        martin_hughes
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                        Sounds like a bug in the Michaelmas Framework CTP pre-alpha :)

                        My Bookmarks

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                        • P Pawel Gielmuda

                          This was in today CP newsletter http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950525.aspx[^] This tool looks very interesting but after downloading and runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010 :(( :doh: Am I missing something? Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

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                          Joan M
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                          Pex is his name, his nickname is "Aode-frog", you can see his profile here in the CodeProject... :rolleyes: PS: I know it has been terrible...

                          [www.tamelectromecanica.com][www.tam.cat]

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                            That's OK I have a VM that just happens to be set up just like that. Can I suscribe to be bombarded with spam every time you update the download so I can download the update before your upload is outdated? Perhaps if I promise to remote any errors and not blog my customer experience? :)

                            "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                            martin_hughes
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                            Well, we mulled it over and..ok. We will need you to sign this water-tight NDA - which I'm just about to courier over to you - and provide a lump sum deposit of £1,000,000 as insurance :)

                            My Bookmarks

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                              Says so on their homepage: "Requirements Operating System: Windows Vista 32bit / 64bit (on x64, only 32-bit (Wow64) processes are supported) Development Tools: Visual Studio 2010 Team Suite, Team Test, Team Dev Editions" Nothing like being ahead of the game, eh.... but still running on crappy old Vista I see - haven't they heard of Windows 7?

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                              Richard Jones
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                              Nice to see Blizzard has ported WOW to 64-bit.

                              Cheetah. Ferret. Gonads. What more can I say? - Pete O'Hanlon

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                              • P Pawel Gielmuda

                                This was in today CP newsletter http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950525.aspx[^] This tool looks very interesting but after downloading and runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010 :(( :doh: Am I missing something? Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

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                                Pawel Gielmuda
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                                I digg the net and found:

                                At the same time as Pex became a DevLabs project,
                                we made Pex available as a Microsoft Download for Visual Studio Team System 2010.
                                But before you go there to download the latest version of Pex, keep reading and
                                let us explain this in more detail: Right now, if you download Pex from that link,
                                it will only install if you have VS2010 installed. The first CTP ("Community Technology Preview")
                                of VS2010 will be distributed to attendees of this month's Professional Developers Conference (PDC)
                                in Los Angeles. Another reason to go to PDC. As an alternative, you can still use the Microsoft
                                Research Download which does not require VS2010; it is identical in terms of features.

                                Here[^] is another download link :)

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                                  Well, we mulled it over and..ok. We will need you to sign this water-tight NDA - which I'm just about to courier over to you - and provide a lump sum deposit of £1,000,000 as insurance :)

                                  My Bookmarks

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                                  Matthew Faithfull
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                                  Sorry, your EULA failed to pass my coporate political correctness firewall. I think perhaps the mention of insurance is the problem. If you say rather 'provide a rappidly applicable scaled money aggregate of $4.50 ( Will be equivalent ot £1,000,000 by the time you get this ) in a preventative capacity within the framework agreement as certified by the relavant assurance practitioner's industry body.' I suspect I'll be authorised to proceed, or at least to sneeze in positive sort of way. After all I've already invested in deep bucket and a good faucet to test that NDA right up to IP69 :laugh:

                                  "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                    Sorry, your EULA failed to pass my coporate political correctness firewall. I think perhaps the mention of insurance is the problem. If you say rather 'provide a rappidly applicable scaled money aggregate of $4.50 ( Will be equivalent ot £1,000,000 by the time you get this ) in a preventative capacity within the framework agreement as certified by the relavant assurance practitioner's industry body.' I suspect I'll be authorised to proceed, or at least to sneeze in positive sort of way. After all I've already invested in deep bucket and a good faucet to test that NDA right up to IP69 :laugh:

                                    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                    martin_hughes
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                                    :laugh: Very good.

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                                      Wanted: C# developer with 10 years experience in Vs2010 technologies. :laugh:

                                      Simon

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                                      Paul Conrad
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                                      :laugh: That's what I was going to say :)

                                      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                      • P Pawel Gielmuda

                                        This was in today CP newsletter http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950525.aspx[^] This tool looks very interesting but after downloading and runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010 :(( :doh: Am I missing something? Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

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                                        David Crow
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                                        Pawel Gielmuda wrote:

                                        Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

                                        Maybe it's only available in Hawaii.

                                        "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                                        "The brick walls are there for a reason...to stop the people who don't want it badly enough." - Randy Pausch

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                                          This was in today CP newsletter http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/devlabs/cc950525.aspx[^] This tool looks very interesting but after downloading and runing setup it told me that I need Visual Studio 2010 :(( :doh: Am I missing something? Last time I've checked we have only VS2008

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                                          Kent Sharkey
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                                          From the blog of (one of the authors[^]):

                                          At the same time as Pex became a DevLabs project, we made Pex available as a Microsoft Download for Visual Studio Team System 2010. But before you go there to download the latest version of Pex, keep reading and let us explain this in more detail: Right now, if you download Pex from that link, it will only install if you have VS2010 installed. The first CTP ("Community Technology Preview") of VS2010 will be distributed to attendees of this month's Professional Developers Conference (PDC) in Los Angeles. Another reason to go to PDC. As an alternative, you can still use the Microsoft Research Download which does not require VS2010; it is identical in terms of features.

                                          -------------- TTFN - Kent

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