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C# 4.0: VB revisited

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  • S Shog9 0

    http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/10/CSharp-Optional[^] Named parameters. Optional parameters. Dynamic (late-bound) types. About time. Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces.

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    You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    Are you sure that it isn't the C++ users who are slowly being converted to C# and then VB.Net?

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      http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/10/CSharp-Optional[^] Named parameters. Optional parameters. Dynamic (late-bound) types. About time. Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces.

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      You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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      Gabriel P G
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      I don´t know, the language is going through all this transformations...now it´s neither a low-level DIY language like C++ nor a little abstract language like SmallTalk... Anyway, I´m still amazed about the suppossed complexity of the typical problem that the typical IT guy working in an enterprise has to solve that it requires so much language complexity...:~

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        I don´t know, the language is going through all this transformations...now it´s neither a low-level DIY language like C++ nor a little abstract language like SmallTalk... Anyway, I´m still amazed about the suppossed complexity of the typical problem that the typical IT guy working in an enterprise has to solve that it requires so much language complexity...:~

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        Shog9 0
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        Gabriel.P.G wrote:

        Anyway, I´m still amazed about the suppossed complexity of the typical problem that the typical IT guy working in an enterprise has to solve that it requires so much language complexity...:~

        Naw, they're all still using VBScript. :rolleyes:

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        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

          Are you sure that it isn't the C++ users who are slowly being converted to C# and then VB.Net?

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          Shog9 0
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          For sure. I mean, VB6 coders were probably the largest group of C++ users out there, and they must have gone somewhere... ;P

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            For sure. I mean, VB6 coders were probably the largest group of C++ users out there, and they must have gone somewhere... ;P

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            You know that's not what I meant. Aren't most C++ users here complaining about being dumbed down by C#? :)

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              Gabriel.P.G wrote:

              Anyway, I´m still amazed about the suppossed complexity of the typical problem that the typical IT guy working in an enterprise has to solve that it requires so much language complexity...:~

              Naw, they're all still using VBScript. :rolleyes:

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              You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              Shog9 wrote:

              Naw, they're all still using VBScript.

              VBScript is to C++ what VBA is to VB6. :)

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              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                You know that's not what I meant. Aren't most C++ users here complaining about being dumbed down by C#? :)

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                Shog9 0
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                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                Aren't most C++ users here complaining about being dumbed down by C#?

                Naw, the C# converts are busy talkin' sour grapes: they're much more productive / anything that C# can't do doesn't need doing / C++ coders are stupid luddites / etc. :-\

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                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  Naw, they're all still using VBScript.

                  VBScript is to C++ what VBA is to VB6. :)

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                  Shog9 0
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                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                  VBScript is to C++ what VBA is to VB6.

                  Irrelevant? :~

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                    http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/10/CSharp-Optional[^] Named parameters. Optional parameters. Dynamic (late-bound) types. About time. Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces.

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                    You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                    Dirk Higbee
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                    Shog9 wrote:

                    Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces

                    Fifty years from now when all you have to do is speak into Visual Studio no one will care. :)

                    My Blog: http://cynicalclots.blogspot.com

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                    • S Shog9 0

                      http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/10/CSharp-Optional[^] Named parameters. Optional parameters. Dynamic (late-bound) types. About time. Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces.

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                      You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                      DaveyM69
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                      Shog9 wrote:

                      About time

                      Ditto :-D

                      Dave
                      BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
                      Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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                      • S Shog9 0

                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                        VBScript is to C++ what VBA is to VB6.

                        Irrelevant? :~

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                        You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        Just trying to say that there's something even lower than VBScript.

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                        • D Dirk Higbee

                          Shog9 wrote:

                          Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces

                          Fifty years from now when all you have to do is speak into Visual Studio no one will care. :)

                          My Blog: http://cynicalclots.blogspot.com

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          [Kramer] Why don't you just tell me what the program should do? [/Kramer]

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                          • S Shog9 0

                            http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/10/CSharp-Optional[^] Named parameters. Optional parameters. Dynamic (late-bound) types. About time. Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces.

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                            You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            Any article that uses the non-word "irregardless" is not to be taken seriously.

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                            • S Shog9 0

                              http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/10/CSharp-Optional[^] Named parameters. Optional parameters. Dynamic (late-bound) types. About time. Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces.

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                              You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                              Roger Wright
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                              Shog9 wrote:

                              VB With Braces

                              It will be nice to have a language with straight teeth for a change. Now if she can handle Prolog-style lists with such constructs as [head] and [tail] she'll be really useful. ;)

                              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                              • S Shog9 0

                                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                Aren't most C++ users here complaining about being dumbed down by C#?

                                Naw, the C# converts are busy talkin' sour grapes: they're much more productive / anything that C# can't do doesn't need doing / C++ coders are stupid luddites / etc. :-\

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                                You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                                Roger Wright
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                                Shog9 wrote:

                                anything that C# can't do doesn't need doing

                                That's what I said when HP introduced hpl; look where that got me... Bullhead City. :sigh:

                                Shog9 wrote:

                                C++ coders are stupid luddites

                                They have their uses. Dog handlers, for instance - they really know pointers. And they should be as good at spotting syntax errors as COBOL programmers - Bog knows they've had enough practice.

                                "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                • D Dirk Higbee

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces

                                  Fifty years from now when all you have to do is speak into Visual Studio no one will care. :)

                                  My Blog: http://cynicalclots.blogspot.com

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  Dirk Higbee wrote:

                                  Fifty years from now when all you have to do is speak into Visual Studio no one will care

                                  I will! I can't speak Chinese.

                                  "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    Naw, they're all still using VBScript.

                                    VBScript is to C++ what VBA is to VB6. :)

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                                    Scott Barbour
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                                    I don't think that analogy works... The biggest difference between VBA and VB6 is the ability to compile standalone programs. I've used VBA in instances where I didn't have VB6 at my disposal. The vast majority of functionality is identical (VB6 even uses the VBA libraries) VBScript and C++ are completely different creatures entirely.

                                    I don't claim to be a know it all, for I know that I am not...

                                    I usually have an answer though.

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                                    • S Shog9 0

                                      http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/10/CSharp-Optional[^] Named parameters. Optional parameters. Dynamic (late-bound) types. About time. Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces.

                                      ----

                                      You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                                      leppie
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                                      Soon I will be able to go over to Scheme entirely, it seems this is encouraged by MS :)

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                                      • M martin_hughes

                                        I'm all Iron now, with added Iron and a sprinkling of Iron on top. Very much looking forward to IronC#, but I've a feeling the whole static/dynamic argument is cyclical and that VB6 will be the cure all :omg: :wtf:

                                        My Bookmarks I clicked the link. In an instant I was transported 15 years back in time.

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                                        I'm at IronButt version 1.2.

                                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                        • S Shog9 0

                                          http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/10/CSharp-Optional[^] Named parameters. Optional parameters. Dynamic (late-bound) types. About time. Maybe now we can let VB.NET fade into obscurity and bring everyone on board VB With Braces.

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                                          You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                                          realJSOP
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                                          Default parameters would be a welcomed addition. I liked using them in C++, but they complicated the use of function overloading - you essentially had to choose between function overloading, or using default parameters.

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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