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  • C Christian Graus

    and the Indians really needed them before you. I was not attempting to blame you, you should take whatever opportunities come your way, it's the big corporations that move the jobs around, you're just making the most of your local situation.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.

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    Mawil Ramos
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    Yup you're right and I really don't have a choice 'coz I need the money - they pay call center agents here higher than the programmers.

    ***marie ram***

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      I was being a little rude at your expense for which I appologise. Your voice sounds a little husky.

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      Mawil Ramos
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      Oh okay. Thank you with the evaluation though.

      ***marie ram***

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        AND SO DO AMERICANS. That's what makes me so upset. With the economy and everyday local news saying "Company X laid off Y employees" it makes me LIVID that when I call into my account that is an American "bank" I get someone who can't properly pronounce my name because of all the vowels.

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        Lost User
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        Does it upset you as much when you buy a shirt from GAP and its made outside of America?

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          Yup you're right and I really don't have a choice 'coz I need the money - they pay call center agents here higher than the programmers.

          ***marie ram***

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          leckey 0
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          That's another thing I find infuriating; just because you can fake American you can get a better paycheck than a programmer? I want to say thing that are no longer appropriate.

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            Does it upset you as much when you buy a shirt from GAP and its made outside of America?

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            leckey 0
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            I don't shop at effing "namebrand" store. I look at every label and try to buy American, or at least western hemisphere.

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              AND SO DO AMERICANS. That's what makes me so upset. With the economy and everyday local news saying "Company X laid off Y employees" it makes me LIVID that when I call into my account that is an American "bank" I get someone who can't properly pronounce my name because of all the vowels.

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              Mawil Ramos
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              This is why we really need your reviews so that we can further learn how to properly speak using your accent. :)

              ***marie ram***

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                This is why we really need your reviews so that we can further learn how to properly speak using your accent. :)

                ***marie ram***

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                leckey 0
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                You obviously could not understand my disdain for your post with my responses.

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                  You obviously could not understand my disdain for your post with my responses.

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                  Mawil Ramos
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                  Ahmm err sorry but you're wrong, it's really obvious :^) I'm just trying to be nice.

                  ***marie ram***

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                    That's another thing I find infuriating; just because you can fake American you can get a better paycheck than a programmer? I want to say thing that are no longer appropriate.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Well, I am sure that Indian call centre workers, on average, give a better return than Indian programmers do. I realise he's not in India, but I've worked with Indian outsourcing companies, and it was a joke.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.

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                      That's another thing I find infuriating; just because you can fake American you can get a better paycheck than a programmer? I want to say thing that are no longer appropriate.

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                      Mawil Ramos
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                      Please don't. The real reason why we are trying to learn is because the American accent sounds professional to Asian ears, meaning our customers are not from America. Maybe that's why our American boss is hiring us because not only could we understand our fellow Asian's accents we could also (hopefully) sound professional to them. :)

                      ***marie ram***

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                        I agree but I am not going to do business with an American company that obviously ships American jobs oversees.

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                        Christian Graus
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                        I agree with both of you. It's not the fault of the person who needs the job that it's been moved to where they are, but as consumers the best way to protest the movement of jobs offshore ( which you could protest because of the impact on local workers, or because of a drop in quality, I certainly hate talking to people who can't understand me ), is to let our feelings be known and take our business elsewhere. I know I buy milk that costs almost twice as much, in protest of the bigger groups who are killing the farmers. I think that's the only way to show you're serious about supporting paying a fair price for a fair product.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.

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                          Ahmm err sorry but you're wrong, it's really obvious :^) I'm just trying to be nice.

                          ***marie ram***

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                          czimon
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                          *clap* *clap*

                          "And what is the purpose of music... simply to wake up from the very life we're living." -John Cage Stacey Student Part time programmer Musician wannabe

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                            Please don't. The real reason why we are trying to learn is because the American accent sounds professional to Asian ears, meaning our customers are not from America. Maybe that's why our American boss is hiring us because not only could we understand our fellow Asian's accents we could also (hopefully) sound professional to them. :)

                            ***marie ram***

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                            And I do not believe that for 1 second.

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                              *clap* *clap*

                              "And what is the purpose of music... simply to wake up from the very life we're living." -John Cage Stacey Student Part time programmer Musician wannabe

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                              leckey 0
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                              oh big shock; another from the Ph :rolleyes: illipienes is in agreement.

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                                I agree with both of you. It's not the fault of the person who needs the job that it's been moved to where they are, but as consumers the best way to protest the movement of jobs offshore ( which you could protest because of the impact on local workers, or because of a drop in quality, I certainly hate talking to people who can't understand me ), is to let our feelings be known and take our business elsewhere. I know I buy milk that costs almost twice as much, in protest of the bigger groups who are killing the farmers. I think that's the only way to show you're serious about supporting paying a fair price for a fair product.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.

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                                Roger Wright
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                                Well said, Christian. I, too, vote with my wallet. It's the only vote that counts.

                                "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                  oh big shock; another from the Ph :rolleyes: illipienes is in agreement.

                                  Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  All she did was ask for help and then copped a load of shit for her nationality. Its things like this that have driven me away from CP lately

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                                    All she did was ask for help and then copped a load of shit for her nationality. Its things like this that have driven me away from CP lately

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                                    leckey 0
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                                    I understand that, but when someone who has much less training that you gets your job for a fraction of the salary, you will understand my position.

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                                      oh big shock; another from the Ph :rolleyes: illipienes is in agreement.

                                      Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.

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                                      czimon
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                                      must you really define what i have to say based on my nationality? i don't see anyone else here saying "oh another american is in agreement!"

                                      "And what is the purpose of music... simply to wake up from the very life we're living." -John Cage Stacey Student Part time programmer Musician wannabe

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                                        I understand that, but when someone who has much less training that you gets your job for a fraction of the salary, you will understand my position.

                                        Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.

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                                        leckey wrote:

                                        but when someone who has much less training that you gets your job for a fraction of the salary, you will understand my position.

                                        That would upset anyone without doubt but its hardly this persons fault. Seems to me she's polite, well spoken and willing to work hard in her own time to get what she wants.

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                                          Sorry, but after being laid off for so many months...plus I had to cancel two credit cards because I could not understand the accent of the customer service people.

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                                          Shog9 0
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                                          Hey, i know the feeling. As i've mentioned here before, one of the odd jobs i worked to put myself through school was a call center, and as shitty as the job was, it still hurt when they started farming it out overseas. That said, i took the call center job because i needed money and it got me out of an even worse job. I had, at the time, an excellent voice for it, but no love whatsoever - how then could i blame anyone else, any_where_ else, for doing the same as i did? As far as i'm concerned, if someone in India, or the Philippines, or Alabama, or any other god-forsaken corner of the world decides they can better their life by taking a job being moved there from somewhere else... then more power to them. I will not disrespect someone who strives to do their job well, regardless of nationality. As for the many, many companies who couple inexpensive labor with lowered standards for the job that gets done... i have nothing but disdain for them, and laugh a bitter laugh when their actions lead them ultimately to ruin. Far from being stolen, the jobs of which you speak have been sold by these short-sighted organizations, sold for a mess of pottage, and the beans are long ago devoured. I woke up this morning to a meeting notice. My employer announced more layoffs, plant closings. No idea yet whether it'll affect me or anyone i know; it's a global company, and so tough times may just as easily hurt the plants in China or India as those in Wisconsin or Texas. Things are bad all over...

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                                          You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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