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  • W whatUrunning com

    Its quite a bold statement but not quite what it seems, full article here[^]

    www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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    OregonGhost
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    The funny thing is that the article says that a stripped-down Linux will be available in 30 seconds. Microsoft claims Windows 7 to boot in 22 seconds.

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    • W whatUrunning com

      Its quite a bold statement but not quite what it seems, full article here[^]

      www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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      Graham Bradshaw
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      But most Windows PCs resume from hibernate in less than 30 seconds anyway. Does anyone actually shut down (as opposed to hibernating) a computer these days?

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      • O OregonGhost

        The funny thing is that the article says that a stripped-down Linux will be available in 30 seconds. Microsoft claims Windows 7 to boot in 22 seconds.

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        leppie
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        OregonGhost wrote:

        a stripped-down Linux will be available in 30 seconds.

        A optimized stripped down Linux system can boot to X in 5 seconds.

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        • O OregonGhost

          The funny thing is that the article says that a stripped-down Linux will be available in 30 seconds. Microsoft claims Windows 7 to boot in 22 seconds.

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          whatUrunning com
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          Some hackers have got Linux booting in five seconds[^],

          www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            What a ludicrous title. Linux boots from the bios to give access to email while Windows boots in the background. Windows doesn't take so long to boot that this would be a "feature". Besides, if Windows is "booting in the background", at best, Linux would be "shipped" on the same number of systems as Windows. The cited article is a perfect example of sensationalistic media trying to draw in readers. The problem is, people will remember the title of the article more readily than they'll remember the actual content. It's crap.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Kevin McFarlane
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            For a moment I thought Linux would finally break its sub-1% desktop market share.

            Kevin

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            • G Graham Bradshaw

              But most Windows PCs resume from hibernate in less than 30 seconds anyway. Does anyone actually shut down (as opposed to hibernating) a computer these days?

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              Baconbutty
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              Turning off PC Every time I have finished for the day on my work PC. Every time I have finished with the home PC.

              I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                Turning off PC Every time I have finished for the day on my work PC. Every time I have finished with the home PC.

                I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                Graham Bradshaw
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                But why turn off instead of hibernating? A hibernated PC consumes no power at all, but saves all the "state", so when you turn on again, you're instantly* back where you started. * subject to copying a memory image from disk, of course

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                • G Graham Bradshaw

                  But most Windows PCs resume from hibernate in less than 30 seconds anyway. Does anyone actually shut down (as opposed to hibernating) a computer these days?

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                  whatUrunning com
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                  I've always had network problems resuming from hibernate, maybe its because I regularily connect to several VPNs. Does your PC become sluggish after a few days without a fresh reboot?

                  www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                  • O OregonGhost

                    The funny thing is that the article says that a stripped-down Linux will be available in 30 seconds. Microsoft claims Windows 7 to boot in 22 seconds.

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                    OregonGhost wrote:

                    Microsoft claims Windows 7 to boot in 22 seconds.

                    On a hypothetical high-end computer from space it must surely be...

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                    • W whatUrunning com

                      I've always had network problems resuming from hibernate, maybe its because I regularily connect to several VPNs. Does your PC become sluggish after a few days without a fresh reboot?

                      www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                      Graham Bradshaw
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                      whatUrunning.com wrote:

                      Does your PC become sluggish after a few days without a fresh reboot?

                      Not at all. Why would it?

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                      • W whatUrunning com

                        Some hackers have got Linux booting in five seconds[^],

                        www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                        leppie
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                        Thanks for the link :) I couldn't remember it (see above message).

                        xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
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                        • G Graham Bradshaw

                          whatUrunning.com wrote:

                          Does your PC become sluggish after a few days without a fresh reboot?

                          Not at all. Why would it?

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                          leppie
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                          Same here, I reboot about once a month, so updates can be applied. Else I probably would not.

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                          ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                          • G Graham Bradshaw

                            whatUrunning.com wrote:

                            Does your PC become sluggish after a few days without a fresh reboot?

                            Not at all. Why would it?

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                            whatUrunning com
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                            I guess it depends on what your using but small memory leaks can cause things to slow down. I do remember using hibernate on an XP machine a few years back and after 2-3 days it ran dog slow.

                            www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                              Thanks for the link :) I couldn't remember it (see above message).

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                              whatUrunning com
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                              I thought there was a youtube vid of the guys demonstrating it, can't find it now though.

                              www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                                Thanks for the link :) I couldn't remember it (see above message).

                                xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
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                                whatUrunning com
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                                here we go[^]

                                www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                                • W whatUrunning com

                                  I guess it depends on what your using but small memory leaks can cause things to slow down. I do remember using hibernate on an XP machine a few years back and after 2-3 days it ran dog slow.

                                  www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                                  Graham Bradshaw
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                                  whatUrunning.com wrote:

                                  small memory leaks can cause things to slow down

                                  If a desktop process leaks, just close it down and reopen it. No need for a reboot. A service that leaks is more of a problem, but even then, usually you can just stop and start the service.

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                                  • W whatUrunning com

                                    Its quite a bold statement but not quite what it seems, full article here[^]

                                    www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                                    NormDroid
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                                    Maybe but certainly not on any of mine.

                                    Software Kinetics - Moving software

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                                    • W whatUrunning com

                                      I've always had network problems resuming from hibernate, maybe its because I regularily connect to several VPNs. Does your PC become sluggish after a few days without a fresh reboot?

                                      www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                                      Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                      whatUrunning.com wrote:

                                      Does your PC become sluggish after a few days without a fresh reboot?

                                      If you are running applications that leak memory, then yes.

                                      It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                                      • G Graham Bradshaw

                                        But why turn off instead of hibernating? A hibernated PC consumes no power at all, but saves all the "state", so when you turn on again, you're instantly* back where you started. * subject to copying a memory image from disk, of course

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                                        Graham Shanks
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                                        Graham Bradshaw wrote:

                                        But why turn off instead of hibernating

                                        Because you need to have enough disk space to store the memory image and when you're short of disk space... Because if a laptop connected to the company network is hibernated you resume when no longer connected to the network then Windows searches for absolutely ages for network drives that no longer exist...

                                        Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                                          Graham Bradshaw wrote:

                                          But why turn off instead of hibernating

                                          Because you need to have enough disk space to store the memory image and when you're short of disk space... Because if a laptop connected to the company network is hibernated you resume when no longer connected to the network then Windows searches for absolutely ages for network drives that no longer exist...

                                          Graham Librarians rule, Ook!

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                                          Graham Bradshaw
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                                          Graham Shanks wrote:

                                          Because you need to have enough disk space to store the memory image and when you're short of disk space...

                                          True, but the hibernation file goes in the root of the system drive (and its location can't be changed). If you are that short of space on the system drive, you're asking for trouble anyway.

                                          Graham Shanks wrote:

                                          Because if a laptop connected to the company network is hibernated you resume when no longer connected to the network

                                          Again, true, but I'm thinking more of the "go home for the evening... ... come back in the morning" scenario, when the network would still be there.

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