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What is the most reliable and popular web server (hardware and software)?

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  • D David Crow

    A song by Winger? A magazine? A stalag in WWII? The age of Michael Myers' victims? Harry Potter's age? Ken Griffey Jr.'s jersey number? Haiku syllables? Life cycle of a cicada?

    "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope :p

    Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

      nope, hint: "Red Rocket"

      Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
      Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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      Dalek Dave
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      UNIX?

      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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      • D Dalek Dave

        UNIX?

        ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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        This is more fun then CCC and nope. Think pop culture.

        Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
        Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
        Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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        • D David Crow

          You don't believe that Tomz_KV heard folks saying this, or you don't believe what they said?

          "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

          "The brick walls are there for a reason...to stop the people who don't want it badly enough." - Randy Pausch

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          James Simpson
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          I dont believe what they said, IIS is not unreliable

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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            This is more fun then CCC and nope. Think pop culture.

            Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
            Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
            Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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            Dalek Dave
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            Heaven 17

            ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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            • D Dalek Dave

              Heaven 17

              ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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              I have a feeling you are just going to guess until I just tell you the answer.

              Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
              Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
              Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                I have a feeling you are just going to guess until I just tell you the answer.

                Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                Dalek Dave
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                Yes.

                ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  17 (bonus points to anyone that gets the reference)

                  Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                  Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                  Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                  Dan Neely
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                  "What integer when divided by 2.5 and rounded up to the nearest integer results in 17?" :rolleyes:

                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                  • T Tomz_KV

                    I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site. What is reliable and popular one? Does anyone know if there is any analysis/statistics done on different web server hardware and software?

                    TOMZ_KV

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                    John M Drescher
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                    apache on linux. Apache is the most used web server (although IIS is catching up). Even microsoft.com ran on apache just 2 years ago. I would say one of the big reasons for its popularity is that it fits very well in the rack server and vps ([^]). One of the big benefits is to run many web servers on their own virtual machine inside of a rack server without the overhead of having a windowing environment installed. On top of that linux machines do not need to be updated frequently. And the updates can be totally automated (cron job to update 1 time a week) if you want that.

                    John

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Yes.

                      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                      In the episode of South Park called Red Rocket the parents ask Chef when it is appropriate for a child to have sex and he answers 17. The parents, shocked, make several queries to change the answer to which Chef always replies 17. It is a parody of Dave's answer because he gave an absolute answer to a question that realistically requires a context.

                      Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                      Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                        In the episode of South Park called Red Rocket the parents ask Chef when it is appropriate for a child to have sex and he answers 17. The parents, shocked, make several queries to change the answer to which Chef always replies 17. It is a parody of Dave's answer because he gave an absolute answer to a question that realistically requires a context.

                        Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                        Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                        Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        I had got as far as "Apache" the tune being performed by a Berlin group called 17 Hippies! Here[^]

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                        • J John M Drescher

                          apache on linux. Apache is the most used web server (although IIS is catching up). Even microsoft.com ran on apache just 2 years ago. I would say one of the big reasons for its popularity is that it fits very well in the rack server and vps ([^]). One of the big benefits is to run many web servers on their own virtual machine inside of a rack server without the overhead of having a windowing environment installed. On top of that linux machines do not need to be updated frequently. And the updates can be totally automated (cron job to update 1 time a week) if you want that.

                          John

                          modified on Monday, November 17, 2008 10:33 AM

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          John M. Drescher wrote:

                          microsoft.com ran on apache just 2 years ago.

                          It did not. For protection of dns attacks, it was using services of akamai, which runs on linux, but microsoft.com was always on Windows/IIS

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                          • T Tomz_KV

                            I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site. What is reliable and popular one? Does anyone know if there is any analysis/statistics done on different web server hardware and software?

                            TOMZ_KV

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic
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                            Tomz_KV wrote:

                            I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site.

                            Fortune 1000 companies never heard that, apparently[^]

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                            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                              John M. Drescher wrote:

                              microsoft.com ran on apache just 2 years ago.

                              It did not. For protection of dns attacks, it was using services of akamai, which runs on linux, but microsoft.com was always on Windows/IIS

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                              John M Drescher
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                              I remember getting apache error messages from microsoft.com back then and I complained to this site that they were running on apache and the consensus was it was ok since microsoft was not a hosting company. [EDIT]Perhaps they were running the apache servers as caching webservers. I know apache does that. [/EDIT]

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                              • T Tomz_KV

                                I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site. What is reliable and popular one? Does anyone know if there is any analysis/statistics done on different web server hardware and software?

                                TOMZ_KV

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                                NeverHeardOfMe
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                                I have about 50+ sites hosted on Windows Server with IIS and find it completely reliable. You must remember that 90% of the anti-MS tirade you hear comes from a quasi-political bias, though even that is giving it more credit that it deserves.... it's just an ill-thought out belief that if it;'s big it must be bad...

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                                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                  Tomz_KV wrote:

                                  I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site.

                                  Fortune 1000 companies never heard that, apparently[^]

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                                  Tomz_KV
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                                  Good to know. My coorporation in fact has only used IIS so far. I have not seen any of the web servers running for 6 months without rebooting or iisreset. I am curious to see if others running IIS have the same experience and if other web servers also need to restart periodically.

                                  TOMZ_KV

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                                    I have about 50+ sites hosted on Windows Server with IIS and find it completely reliable. You must remember that 90% of the anti-MS tirade you hear comes from a quasi-political bias, though even that is giving it more credit that it deserves.... it's just an ill-thought out belief that if it;'s big it must be bad...

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                                    Tomz_KV
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                                    How often do you need to do "iisreset" or rebooting?

                                    TOMZ_KV

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                                    • T Tomz_KV

                                      How often do you need to do "iisreset" or rebooting?

                                      TOMZ_KV

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                                      NeverHeardOfMe
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                                      extremely rarely

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                                        extremely rarely

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                                        I must have done something wrong. My servers never run over 6 months without a rebooting. iisreset is more frequent than I would like. Do most of your sites host interactive web database applications?

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                                          I must have done something wrong. My servers never run over 6 months without a rebooting. iisreset is more frequent than I would like. Do most of your sites host interactive web database applications?

                                          TOMZ_KV

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                                          Yes, they are - almost all. I have one server of my own, hosting just a handful of sites, and the rest of my client base is hosted with a third-party hosting company. Some are on shared hosting solutions, some are on dedicated servers of their own. But all (bar one!) Windows... My own server will re-boot by itself preiodically anyway as automatic updates require, but apart from that, I never have had to re-boot it myself to resolve some problem or other. It just purrs away quietly all by itself, doing it's own thing.... as for the hosting-company shared servers... all I can say is, I don't often have downtime problems. And as for their dedicated servers, it's the same story as for my own one: I have never had to go in and manually re-boot any of them.

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