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What is the most reliable and popular web server (hardware and software)?

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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    nope, hint: "Red Rocket"

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    Dalek Dave
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    UNIX?

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      UNIX?

      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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      This is more fun then CCC and nope. Think pop culture.

      Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
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      Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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      • D David Crow

        You don't believe that Tomz_KV heard folks saying this, or you don't believe what they said?

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        James Simpson
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        I dont believe what they said, IIS is not unreliable

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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          This is more fun then CCC and nope. Think pop culture.

          Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
          Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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          Heaven 17

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            Heaven 17

            ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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            I have a feeling you are just going to guess until I just tell you the answer.

            Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
            Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
            Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

              I have a feeling you are just going to guess until I just tell you the answer.

              Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
              Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
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              Yes.

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                17 (bonus points to anyone that gets the reference)

                Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                Dan Neely
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                "What integer when divided by 2.5 and rounded up to the nearest integer results in 17?" :rolleyes:

                Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                • T Tomz_KV

                  I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site. What is reliable and popular one? Does anyone know if there is any analysis/statistics done on different web server hardware and software?

                  TOMZ_KV

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                  John M Drescher
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                  apache on linux. Apache is the most used web server (although IIS is catching up). Even microsoft.com ran on apache just 2 years ago. I would say one of the big reasons for its popularity is that it fits very well in the rack server and vps ([^]). One of the big benefits is to run many web servers on their own virtual machine inside of a rack server without the overhead of having a windowing environment installed. On top of that linux machines do not need to be updated frequently. And the updates can be totally automated (cron job to update 1 time a week) if you want that.

                  John

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                    Yes.

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                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                    In the episode of South Park called Red Rocket the parents ask Chef when it is appropriate for a child to have sex and he answers 17. The parents, shocked, make several queries to change the answer to which Chef always replies 17. It is a parody of Dave's answer because he gave an absolute answer to a question that realistically requires a context.

                    Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                    Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      In the episode of South Park called Red Rocket the parents ask Chef when it is appropriate for a child to have sex and he answers 17. The parents, shocked, make several queries to change the answer to which Chef always replies 17. It is a parody of Dave's answer because he gave an absolute answer to a question that realistically requires a context.

                      Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
                      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
                      Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.

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                      I had got as far as "Apache" the tune being performed by a Berlin group called 17 Hippies! Here[^]

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                      • J John M Drescher

                        apache on linux. Apache is the most used web server (although IIS is catching up). Even microsoft.com ran on apache just 2 years ago. I would say one of the big reasons for its popularity is that it fits very well in the rack server and vps ([^]). One of the big benefits is to run many web servers on their own virtual machine inside of a rack server without the overhead of having a windowing environment installed. On top of that linux machines do not need to be updated frequently. And the updates can be totally automated (cron job to update 1 time a week) if you want that.

                        John

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                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                        John M. Drescher wrote:

                        microsoft.com ran on apache just 2 years ago.

                        It did not. For protection of dns attacks, it was using services of akamai, which runs on linux, but microsoft.com was always on Windows/IIS

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                        • T Tomz_KV

                          I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site. What is reliable and popular one? Does anyone know if there is any analysis/statistics done on different web server hardware and software?

                          TOMZ_KV

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          Tomz_KV wrote:

                          I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site.

                          Fortune 1000 companies never heard that, apparently[^]

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                          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                            John M. Drescher wrote:

                            microsoft.com ran on apache just 2 years ago.

                            It did not. For protection of dns attacks, it was using services of akamai, which runs on linux, but microsoft.com was always on Windows/IIS

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                            John M Drescher
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                            I remember getting apache error messages from microsoft.com back then and I complained to this site that they were running on apache and the consensus was it was ok since microsoft was not a hosting company. [EDIT]Perhaps they were running the apache servers as caching webservers. I know apache does that. [/EDIT]

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                            • T Tomz_KV

                              I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site. What is reliable and popular one? Does anyone know if there is any analysis/statistics done on different web server hardware and software?

                              TOMZ_KV

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                              NeverHeardOfMe
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                              I have about 50+ sites hosted on Windows Server with IIS and find it completely reliable. You must remember that 90% of the anti-MS tirade you hear comes from a quasi-political bias, though even that is giving it more credit that it deserves.... it's just an ill-thought out belief that if it;'s big it must be bad...

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                              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                Tomz_KV wrote:

                                I often hear people say that IIS on Windows server is not reliable and not suitable for a big site.

                                Fortune 1000 companies never heard that, apparently[^]

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                                Tomz_KV
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                                Good to know. My coorporation in fact has only used IIS so far. I have not seen any of the web servers running for 6 months without rebooting or iisreset. I am curious to see if others running IIS have the same experience and if other web servers also need to restart periodically.

                                TOMZ_KV

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                                • N NeverHeardOfMe

                                  I have about 50+ sites hosted on Windows Server with IIS and find it completely reliable. You must remember that 90% of the anti-MS tirade you hear comes from a quasi-political bias, though even that is giving it more credit that it deserves.... it's just an ill-thought out belief that if it;'s big it must be bad...

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                                  Tomz_KV
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                                  How often do you need to do "iisreset" or rebooting?

                                  TOMZ_KV

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                                  • T Tomz_KV

                                    How often do you need to do "iisreset" or rebooting?

                                    TOMZ_KV

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                                    NeverHeardOfMe
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                                    extremely rarely

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                                      extremely rarely

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                                      Tomz_KV
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                                      I must have done something wrong. My servers never run over 6 months without a rebooting. iisreset is more frequent than I would like. Do most of your sites host interactive web database applications?

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                                      • T Tomz_KV

                                        I must have done something wrong. My servers never run over 6 months without a rebooting. iisreset is more frequent than I would like. Do most of your sites host interactive web database applications?

                                        TOMZ_KV

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                                        NeverHeardOfMe
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                                        Yes, they are - almost all. I have one server of my own, hosting just a handful of sites, and the rest of my client base is hosted with a third-party hosting company. Some are on shared hosting solutions, some are on dedicated servers of their own. But all (bar one!) Windows... My own server will re-boot by itself preiodically anyway as automatic updates require, but apart from that, I never have had to re-boot it myself to resolve some problem or other. It just purrs away quietly all by itself, doing it's own thing.... as for the hosting-company shared servers... all I can say is, I don't often have downtime problems. And as for their dedicated servers, it's the same story as for my own one: I have never had to go in and manually re-boot any of them.

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                                        • J John M Drescher

                                          apache on linux. Apache is the most used web server (although IIS is catching up). Even microsoft.com ran on apache just 2 years ago. I would say one of the big reasons for its popularity is that it fits very well in the rack server and vps ([^]). One of the big benefits is to run many web servers on their own virtual machine inside of a rack server without the overhead of having a windowing environment installed. On top of that linux machines do not need to be updated frequently. And the updates can be totally automated (cron job to update 1 time a week) if you want that.

                                          John

                                          modified on Monday, November 17, 2008 10:33 AM

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                                          Dan Neely
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                                          In addition to what Nemanja Trifunovic wrote, the only major MS site to run on an OSS platform was hotmail, which was written on a BSD platform and continued to be until a few years after MS bought the original creators out.

                                          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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