Egypt hosts Arab piracy meeting
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Egypt hosts Arab piracy meeting for 6 countries.[^] Let me help you out there guys. Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
thrakazog wrote:
No negotiating.
I recall reading the Indian navy the other day sank a pirate ship. No questions asked, no bartering.
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Egypt hosts Arab piracy meeting for 6 countries.[^] Let me help you out there guys. Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
OPEC is meeting to raise prices again? :laugh: :laugh:
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Egypt hosts Arab piracy meeting for 6 countries.[^] Let me help you out there guys. Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
thrakazog wrote:
Egypt
Hmmm,... no wonder. Guess where the Suez channel is. And guess who would loose lots of money if all the ships decide to go through Capetown instead of Suez.
thrakazog wrote:
Let me help you out there guys. Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
Rrriiight... Like John Wayne would do in "Black Hawk Down" (the real one, not the movie)[^], Afghanistan and Iraq. Too bad reality doesn't like to follow the movies' plot, eh? Let me put this as clear as I can: this is like guerrilla warfare. Like in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Battle of Mogadishu you're not fighting an army belonging to a government therefore you can't find your target easily. The hardest part is precisely to find who to shoot. It's not the job for a conventional army.
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
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thrakazog wrote:
Egypt
Hmmm,... no wonder. Guess where the Suez channel is. And guess who would loose lots of money if all the ships decide to go through Capetown instead of Suez.
thrakazog wrote:
Let me help you out there guys. Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
Rrriiight... Like John Wayne would do in "Black Hawk Down" (the real one, not the movie)[^], Afghanistan and Iraq. Too bad reality doesn't like to follow the movies' plot, eh? Let me put this as clear as I can: this is like guerrilla warfare. Like in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Battle of Mogadishu you're not fighting an army belonging to a government therefore you can't find your target easily. The hardest part is precisely to find who to shoot. It's not the job for a conventional army.
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
Diego Moita wrote:
you can't find your target. The hardest part is to find who to shoot.
Have you been smoking something? Find them? They are the guys on the stolen cargo ships with the guns. You kill enough pirates people will stop thinking that's a neato way to make a buck.
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Egypt hosts Arab piracy meeting for 6 countries.[^] Let me help you out there guys. Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
thrakazog wrote:
Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
With naval ships there from various nations, this should be a short-lived problem. The bigger problem is that Somalia doesn't really have a recognised government and it is essentially run by armed factions. As this is Africa, the African Union should put its foot down as say enough is enough and if need be, install a government into Somalia together with whatever military infrastructure it needs in order to impose law and order.
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thrakazog wrote:
No negotiating.
I recall reading the Indian navy the other day sank a pirate ship. No questions asked, no bartering.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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thrakazog wrote:
Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
With naval ships there from various nations, this should be a short-lived problem. The bigger problem is that Somalia doesn't really have a recognised government and it is essentially run by armed factions. As this is Africa, the African Union should put its foot down as say enough is enough and if need be, install a government into Somalia together with whatever military infrastructure it needs in order to impose law and order.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
With naval ships there from various nations, this should be a short-lived problem.
Among the five countries that met, only Egypt and Saudi Arabia have any naval forces worth talking about. Unfortunately even those two have, between 'em, a dozen frigates and four diesel subs. They need to get the aid of a country like India that has a significant navy (at least in non-superpower terms).
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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thrakazog wrote:
Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
With naval ships there from various nations, this should be a short-lived problem. The bigger problem is that Somalia doesn't really have a recognised government and it is essentially run by armed factions. As this is Africa, the African Union should put its foot down as say enough is enough and if need be, install a government into Somalia together with whatever military infrastructure it needs in order to impose law and order.
there is a larger issue here guys. as the global population of pirates has decreased, global warming has increased in an almost one to one ratio. and that's a causal relationship if ever there was one: did you see the second pirate movie with johny depp and what's her name? yeah. shooting pirates may seem like a good solution to the problem on its face (esp if you shoot them in the face) but in the long run, what about the environment? I also saw that al gore movie with that rapper guy who hates black people, and if there's even a shred of truth to that, we need to kill michael moore as soon as possible, install a global goverment based on piracy and up the use of the words "yar", "aye" and "avast" by at least a factor of 3. anything less than that and we'll have a school barely fit for ants, let alone those who want to do other things good too.
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Diego Moita wrote:
you can't find your target. The hardest part is to find who to shoot.
Have you been smoking something? Find them? They are the guys on the stolen cargo ships with the guns. You kill enough pirates people will stop thinking that's a neato way to make a buck.
thrakazog wrote:
Have you been smoking something?
YES MAN! :-D And I like it! But it is far less dangerous that the "fix it like Rambo would" b.s. you seem to believe.
thrakazog wrote:
They are the guys on the stolen cargo ships with the guns.
Ohh,... is it that simple? Like if I said "the Talibans are the guys in the mountains with the guns, go there and kill them" or "insurgents are those guys with guns in Falujah, go there and kill them"? So why is it not working elsewhere?
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
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there is a larger issue here guys. as the global population of pirates has decreased, global warming has increased in an almost one to one ratio. and that's a causal relationship if ever there was one: did you see the second pirate movie with johny depp and what's her name? yeah. shooting pirates may seem like a good solution to the problem on its face (esp if you shoot them in the face) but in the long run, what about the environment? I also saw that al gore movie with that rapper guy who hates black people, and if there's even a shred of truth to that, we need to kill michael moore as soon as possible, install a global goverment based on piracy and up the use of the words "yar", "aye" and "avast" by at least a factor of 3. anything less than that and we'll have a school barely fit for ants, let alone those who want to do other things good too.
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there is a larger issue here guys. as the global population of pirates has decreased, global warming has increased in an almost one to one ratio. and that's a causal relationship if ever there was one: did you see the second pirate movie with johny depp and what's her name? yeah. shooting pirates may seem like a good solution to the problem on its face (esp if you shoot them in the face) but in the long run, what about the environment? I also saw that al gore movie with that rapper guy who hates black people, and if there's even a shred of truth to that, we need to kill michael moore as soon as possible, install a global goverment based on piracy and up the use of the words "yar", "aye" and "avast" by at least a factor of 3. anything less than that and we'll have a school barely fit for ants, let alone those who want to do other things good too.
Yar...
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thrakazog wrote:
Egypt
Hmmm,... no wonder. Guess where the Suez channel is. And guess who would loose lots of money if all the ships decide to go through Capetown instead of Suez.
thrakazog wrote:
Let me help you out there guys. Storm the ships, kill all the pirates. No negotiating. Repeat as necessary until the problem stops.
Rrriiight... Like John Wayne would do in "Black Hawk Down" (the real one, not the movie)[^], Afghanistan and Iraq. Too bad reality doesn't like to follow the movies' plot, eh? Let me put this as clear as I can: this is like guerrilla warfare. Like in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Battle of Mogadishu you're not fighting an army belonging to a government therefore you can't find your target easily. The hardest part is precisely to find who to shoot. It's not the job for a conventional army.
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
Diego Moita wrote:
you're not fighting an army belonging to a government therefore you can't find your target easily.
Uh, Diego. The pirates are on a boat. A pretty big boat in most cases. And the boats mostly sail from a selected few harbors. Not so hard to find... You're right though, it's not a job for the army, its a job for the Navy. Sinking boats is what they're best at.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
With naval ships there from various nations, this should be a short-lived problem.
Among the five countries that met, only Egypt and Saudi Arabia have any naval forces worth talking about. Unfortunately even those two have, between 'em, a dozen frigates and four diesel subs. They need to get the aid of a country like India that has a significant navy (at least in non-superpower terms).
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
only Egypt and Saudi Arabia have any naval forces worth talking about
That's as may be. But, also there are naval forces from (1) United States, (2) France, (3) UK, (4) Russia, and (5) India. There is more than enough ships there to do the job, even if some are required to do some kind of escorting.
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thrakazog wrote:
Have you been smoking something?
YES MAN! :-D And I like it! But it is far less dangerous that the "fix it like Rambo would" b.s. you seem to believe.
thrakazog wrote:
They are the guys on the stolen cargo ships with the guns.
Ohh,... is it that simple? Like if I said "the Talibans are the guys in the mountains with the guns, go there and kill them" or "insurgents are those guys with guns in Falujah, go there and kill them"? So why is it not working elsewhere?
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
Diego Moita wrote:
But it is far less dangerous that the "fix it like Rambo would" b.s. you seem to believe.
Oh so you would just pay them the money they demand and wait for this shit to happen again?
Diego Moita wrote:
is it that simple? Like if I said "the Talibans are the guys in the mountains with the guns, go there and kill them" or "insurgents are those guys with guns in Falujah, go there and kill them"
Yes numb-nuts it is that simple. You see, a boat is far smaller than a mountain range off in some country where terrorists can hide in a civilian population. The pirates will be nicely contained ON that boat.
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Oakman wrote:
only Egypt and Saudi Arabia have any naval forces worth talking about
That's as may be. But, also there are naval forces from (1) United States, (2) France, (3) UK, (4) Russia, and (5) India. There is more than enough ships there to do the job, even if some are required to do some kind of escorting.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
But, also there are naval forces from (1) United States, (2) France, (3) UK, (4) Russia, and (5) India
Sure thing. But they are meeting behind closed doors and without inviting the participation of the more powerful countries. Any decisions they come to will very quickly have to turn into requests before they become anything but mice voting to bell the cat. Egypt took the Suez away from France and the UK, maybe they should give it back if they can't protect it.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Diego Moita wrote:
But it is far less dangerous that the "fix it like Rambo would" b.s. you seem to believe.
Oh so you would just pay them the money they demand and wait for this shit to happen again?
Diego Moita wrote:
is it that simple? Like if I said "the Talibans are the guys in the mountains with the guns, go there and kill them" or "insurgents are those guys with guns in Falujah, go there and kill them"
Yes numb-nuts it is that simple. You see, a boat is far smaller than a mountain range off in some country where terrorists can hide in a civilian population. The pirates will be nicely contained ON that boat.
thrakazog wrote:
Oh so you would just pay them the money they demand and wait for this sh*t to happen again?
No. Did I say that? Where?
thrakazog wrote:
Yes numb-nuts it is that simple. You see, a boat is far smaller than a mountain range off in some country where terrorists can hide in a civilian population. The pirates will be nicely contained ON that boat.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Pleeeaaase, keep posting more. You're very entertaining.
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
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thrakazog wrote:
Oh so you would just pay them the money they demand and wait for this sh*t to happen again?
No. Did I say that? Where?
thrakazog wrote:
Yes numb-nuts it is that simple. You see, a boat is far smaller than a mountain range off in some country where terrorists can hide in a civilian population. The pirates will be nicely contained ON that boat.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Pleeeaaase, keep posting more. You're very entertaining.
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
Diego Moita wrote:
thrakazog wrote: Oh so you would just pay them the money they demand and wait for this sh*t to happen again? No. Did I say that? Where?
Ok smart guy. You don't like my idea on how to fix it. What would your brilliant solutions be? Tell me your great scheme for how you would fix this and prevent it from happening again. Near as I can you just want to grab your ankles and tell the burly man behind you to go gentle.
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thrakazog wrote:
Have you been smoking something?
YES MAN! :-D And I like it! But it is far less dangerous that the "fix it like Rambo would" b.s. you seem to believe.
thrakazog wrote:
They are the guys on the stolen cargo ships with the guns.
Ohh,... is it that simple? Like if I said "the Talibans are the guys in the mountains with the guns, go there and kill them" or "insurgents are those guys with guns in Falujah, go there and kill them"? So why is it not working elsewhere?
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
see, here's the thing. a lot of people will tell you that figuring out who to shoot is difficult, esp if you have to hike to their murder site and/or ride a 4 wheeler or one of those kick ass rokon motercycle things. and while riding around all day in the mountains, shooting terrorists, pirates, eskimos or leprechauns could take literally all day, it would be both fun and profitalbe. esp the leprechauns, who rape men in bathrooms, take their wallets, stash the cash in pots under "rainbows" (and seriously, who didn't see a gay-rape culture springing fabulously from that little habbit?). but back to the main point: we do not want to handle shit like rambo. aging poorly with steriods in a small asian country is no way to solve problems. what we need to do is get a bunch of rokons, and for water faring pirates, probably some jet skis, a bunch of guns, and then drive around all day shooting them. we should probably bring along a camera crew to document our awesomness too. 2 weeks later, we'll check the pirate sign up sheets and very likely find them severly under signed.
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Diego Moita wrote:
But it is far less dangerous that the "fix it like Rambo would" b.s. you seem to believe.
Oh so you would just pay them the money they demand and wait for this shit to happen again?
Diego Moita wrote:
is it that simple? Like if I said "the Talibans are the guys in the mountains with the guns, go there and kill them" or "insurgents are those guys with guns in Falujah, go there and kill them"
Yes numb-nuts it is that simple. You see, a boat is far smaller than a mountain range off in some country where terrorists can hide in a civilian population. The pirates will be nicely contained ON that boat.
thrakazog wrote:
You see, a boat is far smaller than a mountain range off in some country where terrorists can hide in a civilian population.
And the ocean is a lot bigger. And the ships they're stealing have an easily-recognizable monetary value, unlike random civilians.
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.