Sampling of Pakistani TV reporting
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I know some of you are wondering where guys like Adnan get their weird ideas from. Well, here's what they show on TV these days (excerpts, not footage) : In TV Interview, Pakistani Security Expert Accuses Western Zionists, Hindu Zionists of Planning 11/26 Mumbai Terror Attacks[^] Here's one excerpt which is representative of the kind of crap they telecast : "This is not the 9/11 he [George W. Bush] was talking about [recently], but the Indians have themselves always wanted to orchestrate a 9/11, to create the same drama [9/11] in which they could include Americans and Israelis. We have no doubt this was [the result of] a joint plan by Israelis, Americans and Indians - in other words, this was a joint plan by Western Zionists and Hindu Zionists; in it Israelis are directly involved, there is involvement of Mossad." Think how Pakistani folks are bombarded with this sort of reporting and journalism for decades - so that might really throw light on why educated guys like Adnan believe in this sort of stuff. But logically speaking, wouldn't someone in Pakistan notice the fact that Indian TV, American TV, British TV, European TV, etc are all saying the exact opposite of what their media says? Surely, the whole world can't be wrong!
Regards, Nish
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But logically speaking, wouldn't someone in Pakistan notice the fact that Indian TV, American TV, British TV, European TV, etc are all saying the exact opposite of what their media says?
And believe those lying dogs? :-D
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I know some of you are wondering where guys like Adnan get their weird ideas from. Well, here's what they show on TV these days (excerpts, not footage) : In TV Interview, Pakistani Security Expert Accuses Western Zionists, Hindu Zionists of Planning 11/26 Mumbai Terror Attacks[^] Here's one excerpt which is representative of the kind of crap they telecast : "This is not the 9/11 he [George W. Bush] was talking about [recently], but the Indians have themselves always wanted to orchestrate a 9/11, to create the same drama [9/11] in which they could include Americans and Israelis. We have no doubt this was [the result of] a joint plan by Israelis, Americans and Indians - in other words, this was a joint plan by Western Zionists and Hindu Zionists; in it Israelis are directly involved, there is involvement of Mossad." Think how Pakistani folks are bombarded with this sort of reporting and journalism for decades - so that might really throw light on why educated guys like Adnan believe in this sort of stuff. But logically speaking, wouldn't someone in Pakistan notice the fact that Indian TV, American TV, British TV, European TV, etc are all saying the exact opposite of what their media says? Surely, the whole world can't be wrong!
Regards, Nish
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Think how Pakistani folks are bombarded with this sort of reporting and journalism for decades
Had these people not been there, would there have been a state called Pakistan? Pakistani public owe big time to all of them. "Hatred" is their birthright, don't deny them that. That is the only reason helped a section dream of a separate nation called Pakistan.
-Suhredayan
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Oakman wrote:
thus voted me a 1. Of course, it's possible that Adnan responded to my insulting him, but, either way, it appears there's a lamebrain who didn't like this post.
Yeah, I noticed it too. Somebody is following you around voting 1 for all your posts. It's quite possibly Adnan, but what I don't get is how did you manage to offend him more than the rest of us did ? :confused:
Sahir Shah wrote:
It's quite possibly Adnan, but what I don't get is how did you manage to offend him more than the rest of us did ?
That is pure speculation on your part. Oakman is an equal opportunity offender (I mean this in a good way - I am also an equal opportunity offender) and has probably succeeded in offending many people. If you take yourself too seriously he will eventually offend you, and if you're a moron you will try to retaliate by becoming a univoter who stalks him and votes everything he posts down. :rolleyes:
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Think how Pakistani folks are bombarded with this sort of reporting and journalism for decades
Had these people not been there, would there have been a state called Pakistan? Pakistani public owe big time to all of them. "Hatred" is their birthright, don't deny them that. That is the only reason helped a section dream of a separate nation called Pakistan.
-Suhredayan
suhredayan wrote:
That is the only reason helped a section dream of a separate nation called Pakistan.
I personally think that was an excellent thing to have happened.
Regards, Nish
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
It's a conspiracy! The whole world is out to get Pakistan!
You sound exactly like Adnan, more's the pity. Edit I find myself wondering if some lamebrain thought that I was insulting Vikram, rather than complementing him on his perfect imitation, and thus voted me a 1. Of course, it's possible that Adnan responded to my insulting him, but, either way, it appears there's a lamebrain who didn't like this post. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I didn't vote you down, but weren't you the one that gave me a dressing-down for not using the joke icon the other day? :suss:
Cheers, Vıkram.
Stand up to be seen. Speak up to be heard. Shut up to be appreciated.
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suhredayan wrote:
That is the only reason helped a section dream of a separate nation called Pakistan.
I personally think that was an excellent thing to have happened.
Regards, Nish
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I personally think that was an excellent thing to have happened.
Yeah, otherwise, whackos like Adnan would today be... [horrified voice]Indians[/horrified voice]!
Cheers, Vıkram.
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Unable to face the evil they have become, many educated Pakistanis evidently choose denial instead. There is little else in this article. And WTF is a "Hindu Zionist". I think they are just assembling emotionally charged lables to get maximum effect. from dictionary.com: Zi·on·ism (zī'ə-nĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key n. A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.
Rob Graham wrote:
And WTF is a "Hindu Zionist".
I started picturing a Hasidic Guru :D
Bar fomos edo pariyart gedeem, agreo eo dranem abal edyero eyrem kalm kareore
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Sahir Shah wrote:
It's quite possibly Adnan, but what I don't get is how did you manage to offend him more than the rest of us did ?
That is pure speculation on your part. Oakman is an equal opportunity offender (I mean this in a good way - I am also an equal opportunity offender) and has probably succeeded in offending many people. If you take yourself too seriously he will eventually offend you, and if you're a moron you will try to retaliate by becoming a univoter who stalks him and votes everything he posts down. :rolleyes:
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and if you're a moron you will try to retaliate by becoming a univoter who stalks him and votes everything he posts down.
There is no evidence that Ilion has been around yet this morning (I'm sure he's in church getting his snake-handling fix), so that leaves Adnan...
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Oakman wrote:
I find myself wondering if some lamebrain thought that I was insulting Vikram, rather than complementing him on his perfect imitation, and thus voted me a 1. Of course, it's possible that Adnan responded to my insulting him, but, either way, it appears there's a lamebrain who didn't like this post.
I was wondering why half a dozen of your recent posts were all rated 1 :-)
Regards, Nish
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I was wondering why half a dozen of your recent posts were all rated 1
I guess I saw the first one go gray and jumped to the wrong conclusion. Ilion admitted awhile back that he 1-voted me pretty much upon logging on, but I've certain offended a number of folks who are quite sure that they know the whole truth and speak nothing but the truth and are vindictive whenever someone questions their veracity, knowledge, or intelligence. Usually I regard 1-votes as simply a compliment. If I wasn't upsetting these people they might get the idea I agreed with them. If I'd know I was getting unabombed, I wouldn't have edited my post.
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Sahir Shah wrote:
It's quite possibly Adnan, but what I don't get is how did you manage to offend him more than the rest of us did ?
That is pure speculation on your part. Oakman is an equal opportunity offender (I mean this in a good way - I am also an equal opportunity offender) and has probably succeeded in offending many people. If you take yourself too seriously he will eventually offend you, and if you're a moron you will try to retaliate by becoming a univoter who stalks him and votes everything he posts down. :rolleyes:
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If you take yourself too seriously he will eventually offend you
There are those with whom I have disagreed quite vehemently who still seem to respect my views...at least I think there are :~
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Unable to face the evil they have become, many educated Pakistanis evidently choose denial instead. There is little else in this article. And WTF is a "Hindu Zionist". I think they are just assembling emotionally charged lables to get maximum effect. from dictionary.com: Zi·on·ism (zī'ə-nĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key n. A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.
Rob Graham wrote:
Zi·on·ism (zī'ə-nĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key n. A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine
Curious that the zionist movement was a response to anti-semitism but the plan to was to remove or oppress the semites that were inhabiting the land, namely the Palestinians.
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JimmyRopes wrote:
If you take yourself too seriously he will eventually offend you
There are those with whom I have disagreed quite vehemently who still seem to respect my views...at least I think there are :~
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Oakman wrote:
There are those with whom I have disagreed quite vehemently who still seem to respect my views...at least I think there are
If all of us agreed on everything, then what good would be this forum? Though I've found that while I've disagreed with some folks on certain issues, I haven't found anyone with whom I haven't also agreed with on some particular topic. On to be more clear I don't think there's anybody here with whom I disagree on every single issue.
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Nish, presumably Adnan believes only what he is told by those who do the instructing, and the instructors are possibly those at his local Mosque or Madrassa. Consequently, western style of news reporting attracts a certain level of distrust and is therefore subject to distortion. Thus, the idiom "None so blind as those who will not see", is probably relevant.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Thus, the idiom "None so blind as those who will not see", is probably relevant.
Yep, that seems to be pretty much what's going on among the educationally elite in Pakistan. :sigh:
Regards, Nish
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I know some of you are wondering where guys like Adnan get their weird ideas from. Well, here's what they show on TV these days (excerpts, not footage) : In TV Interview, Pakistani Security Expert Accuses Western Zionists, Hindu Zionists of Planning 11/26 Mumbai Terror Attacks[^] Here's one excerpt which is representative of the kind of crap they telecast : "This is not the 9/11 he [George W. Bush] was talking about [recently], but the Indians have themselves always wanted to orchestrate a 9/11, to create the same drama [9/11] in which they could include Americans and Israelis. We have no doubt this was [the result of] a joint plan by Israelis, Americans and Indians - in other words, this was a joint plan by Western Zionists and Hindu Zionists; in it Israelis are directly involved, there is involvement of Mossad." Think how Pakistani folks are bombarded with this sort of reporting and journalism for decades - so that might really throw light on why educated guys like Adnan believe in this sort of stuff. But logically speaking, wouldn't someone in Pakistan notice the fact that Indian TV, American TV, British TV, European TV, etc are all saying the exact opposite of what their media says? Surely, the whole world can't be wrong!
Regards, Nish
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkAs I type this, CNN is finishing up an interview with the ex-head of the Pakistan Intelligence Service, Hamid Gul, who may or may not be about to be extradited to India. Gul indeed went into great detail about the Jewish-American sham the world knows as 9/11. Gul is apparently a leader of Lashkar-e-Taiba, the organization that carried out the attack. According to the one surviving terrorist, they were trained by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence which is the outfit Gul headed. These stupid stupid people keep denying the truth when it becomes more and more obvious that elements in Pakistan were behind the attack. SecState Rice has made it clear, she believes, to the government of Pakistan that blanket denials aren't going to wash. "I did say to the Pakistanis that the argument that these are non-state actors is not acceptable," Rice said in an interview today on ABC’s This Week program. "Non-state actors in your territory are still your responsibility." According to some reports she has also told the Pak government that there is irreutable evidence of Pakistani involvement in the attacks. John McCain (according to the Hindu Newspaper) has warned Pakistan that they could end up leaving India no other option than to make strikes inside Pak territory. [^]
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I didn't vote you down, but weren't you the one that gave me a dressing-down for not using the joke icon the other day? :suss:
Cheers, Vıkram.
Stand up to be seen. Speak up to be heard. Shut up to be appreciated.
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Oakman wrote:
There are those with whom I have disagreed quite vehemently who still seem to respect my views...at least I think there are
If all of us agreed on everything, then what good would be this forum? Though I've found that while I've disagreed with some folks on certain issues, I haven't found anyone with whom I haven't also agreed with on some particular topic. On to be more clear I don't think there's anybody here with whom I disagree on every single issue.
Regards, Nish
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If all of us agreed on everything, then what good would be this forum?
That is assuming that this forum has some inherent good. :~
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JimmyRopes wrote:
If you take yourself too seriously he will eventually offend you
There are those with whom I have disagreed quite vehemently who still seem to respect my views...at least I think there are :~
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Oakman wrote:
There are those with whom I have disagreed quite vehemently who still seem to respect my views...at least I think there are
You will never know who your univoter really is. :~ If it is any consolation I get univoters stalking me from time to time. I consider it a validation that I am not conforming to the mediocrity.
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Oakman wrote:
There are those with whom I have disagreed quite vehemently who still seem to respect my views...at least I think there are
If all of us agreed on everything, then what good would be this forum? Though I've found that while I've disagreed with some folks on certain issues, I haven't found anyone with whom I haven't also agreed with on some particular topic. On to be more clear I don't think there's anybody here with whom I disagree on every single issue.
Regards, Nish
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkNishant Sivakumar wrote:
I don't think there's anybody here with whom I disagree on every single issue.
Well, you're a better man than I am. Whenever I find myself in agreement with Ilion, I have to seriously rethink the issue. I'd be embarrassed to agree with him on most subjects. Luckily this doesn't happen very often. ;)
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Oakman wrote:
There are those with whom I have disagreed quite vehemently who still seem to respect my views...at least I think there are
You will never know who your univoter really is. :~ If it is any consolation I get univoters stalking me from time to time. I consider it a validation that I am not conforming to the mediocrity.
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
You will never know who your univoter really is
It's probably Chris Maunder.
JimmyRopes wrote:
If it is any consolation I get univoters stalking me from time to time. I consider it a validation that I am not conforming to the mediocrity.
'tis indeed.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I don't think there's anybody here with whom I disagree on every single issue.
Well, you're a better man than I am. Whenever I find myself in agreement with Ilion, I have to seriously rethink the issue. I'd be embarrassed to agree with him on most subjects. Luckily this doesn't happen very often. ;)
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Oakman wrote:
I'd be embarrassed to agree with him on most subjects. Luckily this doesn't happen very often.
"Yeah, that's right Ilion. Hey! Wait a minute? Wha...?" :laugh:
Regards, Nish
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