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  • C Christian Graus

    JimmyRopes wrote:

    dumb down Vista

    Does this make it as usable as XP, or just a buggy OS that looks like XP ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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    JimmyRopes
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    Does this make it as usable as XP, or just a buggy OS that looks like XP ?

    I don't know because I have no intention of taking away any features of Vista because I happen to like it. I'll leave it up to you to investigate if a dummed down Vista meets your expectations. :)

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    • J JimmyRopes

      Christian Graus wrote:

      Does this make it as usable as XP, or just a buggy OS that looks like XP ?

      I don't know because I have no intention of taking away any features of Vista because I happen to like it. I'll leave it up to you to investigate if a dummed down Vista meets your expectations. :)

      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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      Lost User
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      "Dummed[sic] down" as in "actually working for a change"?

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      • J JimmyRopes

        I happen to like Vista over XP but I know that some of you prefer XP. Here is an article that will help you dumb down Vista so you can have a reasonable facsimile of XP. Transform Windows Vista into Windows VXP — the hybrid[^]

        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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        PIEBALDconsult
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        I already do much of that on XP boxes (and my wife's Vista laptop). Plus TweakUI. Plus disable indexing and the recycler. I WANT WINDOWS 3.11 BACK!! :sigh:

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        • J JimmyRopes

          Christian Graus wrote:

          Does this make it as usable as XP, or just a buggy OS that looks like XP ?

          I don't know because I have no intention of taking away any features of Vista because I happen to like it. I'll leave it up to you to investigate if a dummed down Vista meets your expectations. :)

          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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          Christian Graus
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          Nah, I run vanilla vista for testing for end users, and XP for a real OS.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            I already do much of that on XP boxes (and my wife's Vista laptop). Plus TweakUI. Plus disable indexing and the recycler. I WANT WINDOWS 3.11 BACK!! :sigh:

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Luddite

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              Luddite

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              It's just that I've seen the future.

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                I already do much of that on XP boxes (and my wife's Vista laptop). Plus TweakUI. Plus disable indexing and the recycler. I WANT WINDOWS 3.11 BACK!! :sigh:

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                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                Plus disable indexing

                :omg: You mean Windows Search? That's the biggest reason I switched to Vista. Couldn't find anything on an XP system anymore.

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                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  Plus disable indexing

                  :omg: You mean Windows Search? That's the biggest reason I switched to Vista. Couldn't find anything on an XP system anymore.

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  Then it was made for you.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    JimmyRopes wrote:

                    dumb down Vista

                    Does this make it as usable as XP, or just a buggy OS that looks like XP ?

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                    El Corazon
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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Does this make it as usable as XP, or just a buggy OS that looks like XP ?

                    you mean the renaming bug I still can't reproduce? I recognize you had problems, but either they are fixed, or it was in the version you have. After mentioning the memory stick I had to try, I can manipulate all the files this way and that and every which way without even a peep out of the user security, which has not been turned off here. Everyone repeats bugs from pre-SP1, to even pre-beta. I have seen bugs touted as being part of Vista that were from the Alpha release and still mentioned over and over again like a broken record. I do recognize that many people had problems, but that does not mean that it had more problems than XP at the same time of its release, if anything it has far LESS.

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      Plus disable indexing

                      :omg: You mean Windows Search? That's the biggest reason I switched to Vista. Couldn't find anything on an XP system anymore.

                      Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                      realJSOP
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                      I have almost 2TB of hard drive space (scattered across four drives), and I know what and where pretty much everything is.

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                      • J JimmyRopes

                        I happen to like Vista over XP but I know that some of you prefer XP. Here is an article that will help you dumb down Vista so you can have a reasonable facsimile of XP. Transform Windows Vista into Windows VXP — the hybrid[^]

                        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                        Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                        realJSOP
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                        Damn - I was hoping they'd have a tip about how to put the old Windows Explorer into Vista...

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        • J JimmyRopes

                          I happen to like Vista over XP but I know that some of you prefer XP. Here is an article that will help you dumb down Vista so you can have a reasonable facsimile of XP. Transform Windows Vista into Windows VXP — the hybrid[^]

                          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          Stuart Dootson
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                          You're still stuck with Vista's kernel, though - I suspect people would rather graft bit's of Vista onto XP's kernel...

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                          • E El Corazon

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Does this make it as usable as XP, or just a buggy OS that looks like XP ?

                            you mean the renaming bug I still can't reproduce? I recognize you had problems, but either they are fixed, or it was in the version you have. After mentioning the memory stick I had to try, I can manipulate all the files this way and that and every which way without even a peep out of the user security, which has not been turned off here. Everyone repeats bugs from pre-SP1, to even pre-beta. I have seen bugs touted as being part of Vista that were from the Alpha release and still mentioned over and over again like a broken record. I do recognize that many people had problems, but that does not mean that it had more problems than XP at the same time of its release, if anything it has far LESS.

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                            Lost User
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                            El Corazon wrote:

                            than XP at the same time of its release

                            I hear that a lot but.. it's just irrelevant. It's not about whether XP was good 7 years ago, it's about what's better now. We aren't taking Vista back in time with a timemachine and then have to choose between 2 buggy operating systems, we can choose between an OS that has most bugs ironed out and an OS that chooses looks over performance and some extra bugs as a bonus.

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                            • J JimmyRopes

                              I happen to like Vista over XP but I know that some of you prefer XP. Here is an article that will help you dumb down Vista so you can have a reasonable facsimile of XP. Transform Windows Vista into Windows VXP — the hybrid[^]

                              Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                              Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                              I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                              Lutoslaw
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                              Heh turning off super useless features was the first thing I have done to Vista. The only thing I like in this OS is a new explorer address bar and a start menu. All the rest is a mediocre copy of XP. Melting HDD with 6 GB of RAM is driving me nuts :/ .

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                              • L Lost User

                                El Corazon wrote:

                                than XP at the same time of its release

                                I hear that a lot but.. it's just irrelevant. It's not about whether XP was good 7 years ago, it's about what's better now. We aren't taking Vista back in time with a timemachine and then have to choose between 2 buggy operating systems, we can choose between an OS that has most bugs ironed out and an OS that chooses looks over performance and some extra bugs as a bonus.

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                                can we choose? or is the choice an illusion? over time hardware manufacturers have stopped making XP drivers. The same "bug" as Vista when it is released is now a "bug" of XP currently! Since Vista is now faster than XP in most situations, and more secure, XP is already "buggy". Oh sure, we have a choice. We can choose Windows 98 and DOS if you want. Microsoft has stopped supporting them, and industry has stopped supporting them because they are much older and harder to support. Windows 7 is not a variant of XP, it is a variant of Vista. It uses Vista kernel, and Vista drivers, for a reason.... XP is now buggier than Vista because XP is no longer supported as "well" as Vista is now. As time goes on Vista will continue to improve as XP improved, and XP will continue to decline. Already complaints are coming in on XP because it no longer gets the attention from industry to Microsoft. It is irrelevant because the choice is an illusion. Waiting for Windows 7 is a marketing illusion that almost every idiot not switched over has fallen fore. "Windows 7 will save the day." "I am waiting for Windows 7" Windows 7 is a marketing ploy that works simply because it is NOT Vista. You hate Vista and Vista is now the current OS, so gee... build a new OS, charge everyone more money and call it Windows 7, and we win all over again.... Wow, they actually fell for it. Microsoft must be tickled pink with all the people who demand to pay again for the OS some of them already have and refuse to use. Great for MS. But WE demanded it.

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                  You're still stuck with Vista's kernel, though - I suspect people would rather graft bit's of Vista onto XP's kernel...

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                                  JimmyRopes
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                                  Stuart Dootson wrote:

                                  You're still stuck with Vista's kernel, though - I suspect people would rather graft bit's of Vista onto XP's kernel...

                                  I have read about ways to do that. Google the feature you want to add to XP using the feature name-space-XP. (aero xp) for example. You may not be able to add all features -- you are working with the XP kernal after all -- but you should be able to add some of them.

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                                    Damn - I was hoping they'd have a tip about how to put the old Windows Explorer into Vista...

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    Damn - I was hoping they'd have a tip about how to put the old Windows Explorer into Vista...

                                    Sorry to say I don't think it is possible. In any case I don't know how to do that. It took me a while to get used to the Vista file explorer but now I am OK with it.

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                                    • J JimmyRopes

                                      I happen to like Vista over XP but I know that some of you prefer XP. Here is an article that will help you dumb down Vista so you can have a reasonable facsimile of XP. Transform Windows Vista into Windows VXP — the hybrid[^]

                                      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                                      Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                                      The Cake of Deceit
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                                      I was hoping to get the XP theme. It's much better than Aero.

                                      People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)

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                                        I was hoping to get the XP theme. It's much better than Aero.

                                        People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. - Calvin (from Calvin and Hobbes)(The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes, p105-3)

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                                        The Dogcow Farmer wrote:

                                        I was hoping to get the XP theme. It's much better than Aero.

                                        then you wouldn't be interested in this[^] ;P

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                                          can we choose? or is the choice an illusion? over time hardware manufacturers have stopped making XP drivers. The same "bug" as Vista when it is released is now a "bug" of XP currently! Since Vista is now faster than XP in most situations, and more secure, XP is already "buggy". Oh sure, we have a choice. We can choose Windows 98 and DOS if you want. Microsoft has stopped supporting them, and industry has stopped supporting them because they are much older and harder to support. Windows 7 is not a variant of XP, it is a variant of Vista. It uses Vista kernel, and Vista drivers, for a reason.... XP is now buggier than Vista because XP is no longer supported as "well" as Vista is now. As time goes on Vista will continue to improve as XP improved, and XP will continue to decline. Already complaints are coming in on XP because it no longer gets the attention from industry to Microsoft. It is irrelevant because the choice is an illusion. Waiting for Windows 7 is a marketing illusion that almost every idiot not switched over has fallen fore. "Windows 7 will save the day." "I am waiting for Windows 7" Windows 7 is a marketing ploy that works simply because it is NOT Vista. You hate Vista and Vista is now the current OS, so gee... build a new OS, charge everyone more money and call it Windows 7, and we win all over again.... Wow, they actually fell for it. Microsoft must be tickled pink with all the people who demand to pay again for the OS some of them already have and refuse to use. Great for MS. But WE demanded it.

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                          Well the industry is probably well aware that the majority of computers is still running XP.. Vista is not faster in most situations, only in very rare ones such as when compressing a file with winrar and other rare things (maybe some DX10 games, but they're rare anyway). It may be more secure, but that does not make XP more buggy than it used to be.. XP is still better supported than Vista, except maybe by MicroSoft. Audio drivers, anyone? And how about that ancient printer that still works but Vista refuses to work with it? But the worst thing of Vista, IMO, is it's support of HDCP. It ought to be illegal. It's going to generate lawsuits so MicroSoft would do well to remove it before it's used.

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