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    Chris Maunder
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    ...and here I was thinking Acrobat reader was a bloated whale of an application. PSE is so awful that, in sheer amazement, I am continuing to try and use it purely for the OMG factor. Current fave is not being able to specify pixels when resizing an image. I can size it in picas, though. Oh, and columns. I'll have 20 columns, please. But the rest of it, from the flickering menu, the menu options that, when clicked, do nothing and tell you nothing, to the overall Let's-Roll-Another-UI UI, is just awful :(

    cheers, Chris Maunder

    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      ...and here I was thinking Acrobat reader was a bloated whale of an application. PSE is so awful that, in sheer amazement, I am continuing to try and use it purely for the OMG factor. Current fave is not being able to specify pixels when resizing an image. I can size it in picas, though. Oh, and columns. I'll have 20 columns, please. But the rest of it, from the flickering menu, the menu options that, when clicked, do nothing and tell you nothing, to the overall Let's-Roll-Another-UI UI, is just awful :(

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      Christian Graus
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      Yeah, I bought this POS especially to resize some images, and was incredulous that I couldn't do it in pixels. I spent some time assuming I was just to dumb to use it.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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        Yeah, I bought this POS especially to resize some images, and was incredulous that I couldn't do it in pixels. I spent some time assuming I was just to dumb to use it.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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        Chris Maunder
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        Use ACDSee for resizing. It rocks. Failing that, Fireworks is great for general image manipulation. I was really hoping PS would have evolved into something cool since the old V6 days. Oh well, lucky I only grabbed the trial version. I'll uninstall and reinstall my old V6 version if I ever need to edit PSD files.

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          Use ACDSee for resizing. It rocks. Failing that, Fireworks is great for general image manipulation. I was really hoping PS would have evolved into something cool since the old V6 days. Oh well, lucky I only grabbed the trial version. I'll uninstall and reinstall my old V6 version if I ever need to edit PSD files.

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          Christian Graus
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          I think I did in the end. What I needed most was something that didn't degrade PNGs, specifically something that didn't lose the transparency settings, which Paint does.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            Use ACDSee for resizing. It rocks. Failing that, Fireworks is great for general image manipulation. I was really hoping PS would have evolved into something cool since the old V6 days. Oh well, lucky I only grabbed the trial version. I'll uninstall and reinstall my old V6 version if I ever need to edit PSD files.

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Single Step Debugger
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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            Use ACDSee for resizing. It rocks.

            I second that. It’s easy, intuitive, fast and the crop and resizing functions works just fine.

            The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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            • C Chris Maunder

              ...and here I was thinking Acrobat reader was a bloated whale of an application. PSE is so awful that, in sheer amazement, I am continuing to try and use it purely for the OMG factor. Current fave is not being able to specify pixels when resizing an image. I can size it in picas, though. Oh, and columns. I'll have 20 columns, please. But the rest of it, from the flickering menu, the menu options that, when clicked, do nothing and tell you nothing, to the overall Let's-Roll-Another-UI UI, is just awful :(

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              Dirk Higbee
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              That's a shame, I just read a good review in my new Computer Shopper mag. It got pretty good reviews and I liked the UI pictures I saw but haven't had a chance to try it out. I was thinking the hundred bucks was a lot better than the price of the full Photoshop. Darn.

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                Use ACDSee for resizing. It rocks. Failing that, Fireworks is great for general image manipulation. I was really hoping PS would have evolved into something cool since the old V6 days. Oh well, lucky I only grabbed the trial version. I'll uninstall and reinstall my old V6 version if I ever need to edit PSD files.

                cheers, Chris Maunder

                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                Vark111
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                I'll add a vote for Paint.NET for generic photo manipulation (cropping, resizing, etc...)

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                  I'll add a vote for Paint.NET for generic photo manipulation (cropping, resizing, etc...)

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                  Henry Minute
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                  Vark111 wrote:

                  I'll add a vote for Paint.NET

                  And I'll second that. Also I quite like The Gimp[^]

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                    That's a shame, I just read a good review in my new Computer Shopper mag. It got pretty good reviews and I liked the UI pictures I saw but haven't had a chance to try it out. I was thinking the hundred bucks was a lot better than the price of the full Photoshop. Darn.

                    My Blog: http://cynicalclots.blogspot.com

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                    Christian Graus
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                    It's really geared for non technical users trying to play with digital photos. For them, it may well rock.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                      ...and here I was thinking Acrobat reader was a bloated whale of an application. PSE is so awful that, in sheer amazement, I am continuing to try and use it purely for the OMG factor. Current fave is not being able to specify pixels when resizing an image. I can size it in picas, though. Oh, and columns. I'll have 20 columns, please. But the rest of it, from the flickering menu, the menu options that, when clicked, do nothing and tell you nothing, to the overall Let's-Roll-Another-UI UI, is just awful :(

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      realJSOP
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                      It's probably a WPF/WWF application. :)

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                        Vark111 wrote:

                        I'll add a vote for Paint.NET

                        And I'll second that. Also I quite like The Gimp[^]

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                        Henry Minute wrote:

                        Also I quite like The Gimp[^]

                        And i'll second that. :) (I have Paint.NET installed, but rarely ever use it; Picasa starts up faster, and The GIMP does more... and runs faster once it's loaded)

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                        You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                          Yeah, I bought this POS especially to resize some images, and was incredulous that I couldn't do it in pixels. I spent some time assuming I was just to dumb to use it.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          What's wrong with MS Office Picture Manager? It does a group at a time.


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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            It's probably a WPF/WWF application. :)

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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                              ...and here I was thinking Acrobat reader was a bloated whale of an application. PSE is so awful that, in sheer amazement, I am continuing to try and use it purely for the OMG factor. Current fave is not being able to specify pixels when resizing an image. I can size it in picas, though. Oh, and columns. I'll have 20 columns, please. But the rest of it, from the flickering menu, the menu options that, when clicked, do nothing and tell you nothing, to the overall Let's-Roll-Another-UI UI, is just awful :(

                              cheers, Chris Maunder

                              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                              I'd use Illustrator and play with it, it grows on many people that only ever use Macs.. They all looked awful but CorelDraw and Image Composer (yes, from MS), talking purely from memory, used to be cool.. Never checked them since those days, but it must be better than Picture Viewer :) or Windows Media Center Slideshow.. Both Adobe and MS need a spanking when it comes to Ribbons, SQL EE manager restarting (ops 'System.Exception' doesn't help?), waiting for the app and flickering.. my favourite app is Vista with Tetris 5000 struggling to run smooth whenever there's (someone said disk/net) I/O. Welcome to 2009 advances in bloatware technology..

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                                ...and here I was thinking Acrobat reader was a bloated whale of an application. PSE is so awful that, in sheer amazement, I am continuing to try and use it purely for the OMG factor. Current fave is not being able to specify pixels when resizing an image. I can size it in picas, though. Oh, and columns. I'll have 20 columns, please. But the rest of it, from the flickering menu, the menu options that, when clicked, do nothing and tell you nothing, to the overall Let's-Roll-Another-UI UI, is just awful :(

                                cheers, Chris Maunder

                                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                Joe Woodbury
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                                I still use Paint Shop Pro 7. Corel has since bought the company and jacked up the price, which is one reason I haven't bothered upgrading. (Speaking of Corel, it appears they bought WinZip. News to me. WinZip 12 supports LZMA, which might be justification alone for dropping the otherwise horrible 7-Zip.)

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                                  It's probably a WPF/WWF application. :)

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  Henry Minute
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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  It's probably a WPF/WWF application

                                  Come on JS! If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. :)

                                  Honi soit qui mal y pongs - Evil to he who thinks it stinks

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                                    ...and here I was thinking Acrobat reader was a bloated whale of an application. PSE is so awful that, in sheer amazement, I am continuing to try and use it purely for the OMG factor. Current fave is not being able to specify pixels when resizing an image. I can size it in picas, though. Oh, and columns. I'll have 20 columns, please. But the rest of it, from the flickering menu, the menu options that, when clicked, do nothing and tell you nothing, to the overall Let's-Roll-Another-UI UI, is just awful :(

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                    Steve Mayfield
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                                    I don't know about later versions, but in PE 4.0, The "Files / Process Multiple Files..." Dialog lets you select Pixels in the Image Resize section

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                                      I'd use Illustrator and play with it, it grows on many people that only ever use Macs.. They all looked awful but CorelDraw and Image Composer (yes, from MS), talking purely from memory, used to be cool.. Never checked them since those days, but it must be better than Picture Viewer :) or Windows Media Center Slideshow.. Both Adobe and MS need a spanking when it comes to Ribbons, SQL EE manager restarting (ops 'System.Exception' doesn't help?), waiting for the app and flickering.. my favourite app is Vista with Tetris 5000 struggling to run smooth whenever there's (someone said disk/net) I/O. Welcome to 2009 advances in bloatware technology..

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                                      I just used Illustrator once, it got the job done, but at first glance it had some details that I could not understand why after so many versions were still there...the scrollbars were not proportional, the scroll range seemed like "anything that makes the workarea fit" and the ruler and the grid did not align to each other X|

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                                        Use ACDSee for resizing. It rocks. Failing that, Fireworks is great for general image manipulation. I was really hoping PS would have evolved into something cool since the old V6 days. Oh well, lucky I only grabbed the trial version. I'll uninstall and reinstall my old V6 version if I ever need to edit PSD files.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                        BillWoodruff
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                                        "Use ACDSee for resizing. It rocks." I'll third that ! I'm so used to using ACDSee, I haven't even looked at LightRoom to see what it offers. To me a prize feature of ACDSee is the ability to produce a text file listing of all the files in any folder which comes in handy quite often ... for other than graphic purposes. I'd love to see a review (if anyone knows one) of quality of output and/or variances to PNG, BMP, GIF, JPG formats direct from PhotoShop (via Save As or via the Save to Web options) compared to ACDSee. I am not, however, an uncritical user of ACDSee : some things seem to never get fixed : such as when you are browsing pictures picture-by-picture and you set the zoom mode to show the image in its actual size : at that point arrow-key navigation to next or previous image stops working. What amazes me about PhotoShop CS4 is how bloody fast it boots up on Windows (and I'm using it on XP Pro on an older Intel PIV (2.3 something mhz) using built-in Intel graphics chipset on the motherboard). Somebody fixed something. best, Bill

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