Are we excited to get Windows 7
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Shyam Bharath wrote:
won't you expect it to work with the next higher version?
If the changes between vesions are that grand as the changes between XP and Vista... of course not. If the version you used made for Vista, or XP? (Of course, for XP) Is it compatible with Vista? Why not try and install a Linux program and expect it to work? For the record, I use Daemon Tools on Vista, and have absolutely no problems with it.
Shyam Bharath wrote:
And BSOD is Windows home made crap.
Shyam Bharath wrote:
BSOD is Windows crappiest unpredictable substance.
Are you even aware what causes BSOD? Or eve, what exactly it is?
To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.
rastaVnuce wrote:
Why not try and install a Linux program and expect it to work?
Ever heard of WINE? Well ever wondered how Linux allows you to beautifully dual boot with any OS be it be Windows 98, Mac OS or XP or even Vista. And what's the point, Linux is not called "successor" of Windows or Windows Linux. Vista is the successor of Windows XP.
rastaVnuce wrote:
If the version you used made for Vista, or XP? (Of course, for XP) Is it compatible with Vista?
This is one more thing that puts me off. I paid for Vista and I deserve to run my old XP applications on it too. Because I paid! PERIOD
rastaVnuce wrote:
Are you even aware what causes BSOD? Or eve, what exactly it is?
To hell I care. I am a customer and I don't really give a damn. That's the point. Ok I accept, being a customer, I am a n00b. Else I would write my own OS. And sure it won't have any BSOD in it. You can't blame a customer for not knowing things like BSOD, etc. I paid for Alcohol 120% which worked in XP smoothly. And when you advertised me that Vista can run XP applications using a thing called Compatability mode, won't I expect it to run in Vista.
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modified on Friday, January 9, 2009 6:53 AM
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yeah screenshots says so, you won't be able to resist if u see screenshots link given below do not look at it if today u wanna install Ubuntu today :-) http://www.blogsdna.com/300/download-windows-7-build-6519-milestone-1-leaked-version.htm[^] in the meantime while waiting for the download links to appear, i will check out what Ubuntu has to offer :-)
Thanks for the link :-D
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rastaVnuce wrote:
Why not try and install a Linux program and expect it to work?
Ever heard of WINE? Well ever wondered how Linux allows you to beautifully dual boot with any OS be it be Windows 98, Mac OS or XP or even Vista. And what's the point, Linux is not called "successor" of Windows or Windows Linux. Vista is the successor of Windows XP.
rastaVnuce wrote:
If the version you used made for Vista, or XP? (Of course, for XP) Is it compatible with Vista?
This is one more thing that puts me off. I paid for Vista and I deserve to run my old XP applications on it too. Because I paid! PERIOD
rastaVnuce wrote:
Are you even aware what causes BSOD? Or eve, what exactly it is?
To hell I care. I am a customer and I don't really give a damn. That's the point. Ok I accept, being a customer, I am a n00b. Else I would write my own OS. And sure it won't have any BSOD in it. You can't blame a customer for not knowing things like BSOD, etc. I paid for Alcohol 120% which worked in XP smoothly. And when you advertised me that Vista can run XP applications using a thing called Compatability mode, won't I expect it to run in Vista.
------------------------------------------- It's code that drives you - Shyam
modified on Friday, January 9, 2009 6:53 AM
Shyam Bharath wrote:
Because I paid! PERIOD
I totally paid for a bunch of windows 3.1 software... should I expect that to work on Windows 7?
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Well I love to embrace new technology and have been using windows since 3.0 and programming windows since 3.1, so I have an affinity to use ever new version that comes out. I love UI and the Windows 7 UI esp taskbar layout is nice and some of the UI features are cool, sliding etc. Like the way you can 'shake' a window to minimize/maximize. Paint improved, Word improved. So far so good, I'm going to installed VS 2008 and test for speed. Oh and explorer has been improved.
Software Kinetics - Moving software
One Question Please : Is the download available from microsoft? If yes where is it?
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One Question Please : Is the download available from microsoft? If yes where is it?
vikrant kpr wrote:
Is the download available from microsoft
Yes, only if you hold a MSDN Subscription license.
Software Kinetics - Moving software
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vikrant kpr wrote:
Is the download available from microsoft
Yes, only if you hold a MSDN Subscription license.
Software Kinetics - Moving software
oh :-( it appeared that on 9th jan 2009, it would be available to 2.5 million people free of cost http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/01/07/information-on-downloading-and-installing-windows-7-beta.aspx[^]
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rastaVnuce wrote:
Why not try and install a Linux program and expect it to work?
Ever heard of WINE? Well ever wondered how Linux allows you to beautifully dual boot with any OS be it be Windows 98, Mac OS or XP or even Vista. And what's the point, Linux is not called "successor" of Windows or Windows Linux. Vista is the successor of Windows XP.
rastaVnuce wrote:
If the version you used made for Vista, or XP? (Of course, for XP) Is it compatible with Vista?
This is one more thing that puts me off. I paid for Vista and I deserve to run my old XP applications on it too. Because I paid! PERIOD
rastaVnuce wrote:
Are you even aware what causes BSOD? Or eve, what exactly it is?
To hell I care. I am a customer and I don't really give a damn. That's the point. Ok I accept, being a customer, I am a n00b. Else I would write my own OS. And sure it won't have any BSOD in it. You can't blame a customer for not knowing things like BSOD, etc. I paid for Alcohol 120% which worked in XP smoothly. And when you advertised me that Vista can run XP applications using a thing called Compatability mode, won't I expect it to run in Vista.
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modified on Friday, January 9, 2009 6:53 AM
Shyam Bharath wrote:
Ever heard of WINE?
Wine's an emulator, for crying out loud! (ok.. ok, I'm know [W]ine [I]s [N]ot an [E]mulator). Ever heard of Mame? Does that mean that Vista should run arcade games natively?
Shyam Bharath wrote:
Well ever wondered how Linux allows you to beautifully dual boot
Vista allows you to dual boot, too. I don't know what's your problem?
Shyam Bharath wrote:
Linux is not called "successor" of Windows
Of course it's not called "successor".. It's a kernel. Not in any way connected to Windows, Microsoft or anything similar.
Shyam Bharath wrote:
Vista is the successor of Windows XP.
Correct. It's not Windows XP, it's XP's successor. That means, not everything is the same!
Shyam Bharath wrote:
I paid for Vista and I deserve to run my old XP applications on it too.
You payed for your third-party applications designed for XP and you think you deserve to run them on a tottaly new OS... OK.. I get your point. Complain to the manufacturers of those apps, rant them, not Vista! They're the ones who should make adjustments to their software, so it can run with new systems! What do you want? Billy running around in every software company in the world, adjusting their software to Vista's kernel?
Shyam Bharath wrote:
I am a n00b
I would've used different words... but, yes.. you are!
Shyam Bharath wrote:
And sure it won't have any BSOD in it.
Even while beeing a noob, you're using Microsoft's philosophy :doh: . According to you, BSOD is a feature of the operating system!
Shyam Bharath wrote:
I paid for Alcohol 120%
Who'd you pay for Alcohol 120%? Microsoft? Oh, what do you say? No? Not Microsoft? Well.. it's only logical to complain to the company you payed to, isn't it?
To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.
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Well I love to embrace new technology and have been using windows since 3.0 and programming windows since 3.1, so I have an affinity to use ever new version that comes out. I love UI and the Windows 7 UI esp taskbar layout is nice and some of the UI features are cool, sliding etc. Like the way you can 'shake' a window to minimize/maximize. Paint improved, Word improved. So far so good, I'm going to installed VS 2008 and test for speed. Oh and explorer has been improved.
Software Kinetics - Moving software
And UAC? And is the 'basic' UI still godawful ugly? Any compatibility issues?
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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And UAC? And is the 'basic' UI still godawful ugly? Any compatibility issues?
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
And UAC?
Off by default.
Chris Maunder wrote:
And is the 'basic' UI still godawful ugly?
More like MAC OS.
Chris Maunder wrote:
Any compatibility issues?
Loaded on a 'generic' PC (build by our local PC supplier), works first time with no issues. On the whole I'm impressed, but I'm biased as I think Vista is good.
Software Kinetics - Moving software
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Shyam Bharath wrote:
Because I paid! PERIOD
I totally paid for a bunch of windows 3.1 software... should I expect that to work on Windows 7?
No. But since, Windows XP being the immediate ancestor of Vista, I would expect it to work. All I am asking is for a better compatibility mode. :)
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Shyam Bharath wrote:
Ever heard of WINE?
Wine's an emulator, for crying out loud! (ok.. ok, I'm know [W]ine [I]s [N]ot an [E]mulator). Ever heard of Mame? Does that mean that Vista should run arcade games natively?
Shyam Bharath wrote:
Well ever wondered how Linux allows you to beautifully dual boot
Vista allows you to dual boot, too. I don't know what's your problem?
Shyam Bharath wrote:
Linux is not called "successor" of Windows
Of course it's not called "successor".. It's a kernel. Not in any way connected to Windows, Microsoft or anything similar.
Shyam Bharath wrote:
Vista is the successor of Windows XP.
Correct. It's not Windows XP, it's XP's successor. That means, not everything is the same!
Shyam Bharath wrote:
I paid for Vista and I deserve to run my old XP applications on it too.
You payed for your third-party applications designed for XP and you think you deserve to run them on a tottaly new OS... OK.. I get your point. Complain to the manufacturers of those apps, rant them, not Vista! They're the ones who should make adjustments to their software, so it can run with new systems! What do you want? Billy running around in every software company in the world, adjusting their software to Vista's kernel?
Shyam Bharath wrote:
I am a n00b
I would've used different words... but, yes.. you are!
Shyam Bharath wrote:
And sure it won't have any BSOD in it.
Even while beeing a noob, you're using Microsoft's philosophy :doh: . According to you, BSOD is a feature of the operating system!
Shyam Bharath wrote:
I paid for Alcohol 120%
Who'd you pay for Alcohol 120%? Microsoft? Oh, what do you say? No? Not Microsoft? Well.. it's only logical to complain to the company you payed to, isn't it?
To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.
rastaVnuce wrote:
Of course it's not called "successor".. It's a kernel. Not in any way connected to Windows, Microsoft or anything similar.
Then how the hell did you plan on asking me to run Linux apps on Windows. Proving your stupidity with your own conclusions.
rastaVnuce wrote:
Who'd you pay for Alcohol 120%? Microsoft? Oh, what do you say? No? Not Microsoft? Well.. it's only logical to complain to the company you payed to, isn't it?
Geez.... ok fine use Vista, go and complain to all the companies with whom you have all the troubles. Vista is really troublesome when it comes to compatability. Its not just alcohol, next time, you'd probably have to go through a list before you buy anything for it, like this... http://iexbeta.com/wiki/index.php/Windows_Vista_Software_Compatibility_List[^]
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rastaVnuce wrote:
Of course it's not called "successor".. It's a kernel. Not in any way connected to Windows, Microsoft or anything similar.
Then how the hell did you plan on asking me to run Linux apps on Windows. Proving your stupidity with your own conclusions.
rastaVnuce wrote:
Who'd you pay for Alcohol 120%? Microsoft? Oh, what do you say? No? Not Microsoft? Well.. it's only logical to complain to the company you payed to, isn't it?
Geez.... ok fine use Vista, go and complain to all the companies with whom you have all the troubles. Vista is really troublesome when it comes to compatability. Its not just alcohol, next time, you'd probably have to go through a list before you buy anything for it, like this... http://iexbeta.com/wiki/index.php/Windows_Vista_Software_Compatibility_List[^]
------------------------------------------- It's code that drives you - Shyam
Shyam Bharath wrote:
Then how the hell did you plan on asking me to run Linux apps on Windows. Proving your stupidity with your own conclusions.
You're kidding me, right? You really didn't get the sarcarsm in that post? Oh, boy... now I see the problem. I apologize for making you try to think. Won't happen again.
To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.
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No. But since, Windows XP being the immediate ancestor of Vista, I would expect it to work. All I am asking is for a better compatibility mode. :)
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Shyam Bharath wrote:
No. But since, Windows XP being the immediate ancestor of Vista, I would expect it to work. All I am asking is for a better compatibility mode.
then you should hate XP just as much... it made a whole bunch of Windows 98/Me software fail.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Yeah even if Windows 7 doesn't break any new grounds, I would atleast expect it to be predictable. That wasn't the case with Vista. Once when I installed Alcohol 120% in friend's laptop, it started showing BSOD every time I started it due to some driver failure. He got furious on me. From then on I decided to practise caution and read personal reviews before I touch any advanced version of Windows. Till then, I am happy with SP2 :)
------------------------------------------- It's code that drives you - Shyam
The older versions of Alcohol 120% were using the "old style" sys driver that messed up Vista, as I read from one post on their forum. I installed a perfectly working older version 1.9.5.3823 on Vista home premium SP1 and hope I'll be able to do it in future Windows.:cool: I only needed to install the latest SCSI sptd driver before the Alcohol's installer, after that it all went smooth. They officially support in Vista only newer versions, but why pay big bucks for new one because new games can't be fooled with emulators. :^)
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Hey Friends Are we excited to get Windows 7 today? Has anybody got it from MSDN subscription? Or anybody got it downloaded? Waiting eagerly, keeping my pc ready with ample of space :-) Regards
Downloaded it yesterday and installed it on a spare laptop (Acer 5520). Everything was enabled out of the box, no unknown devices. Even the webcam was detected and installed. Windows Update is a lot nicer. It now displays a panel on the right side of the screen giving a brief description of the update and links to more information. I had problems installing any of the Virtual CD tools (even tools some sites said worked wouldn't install correctly) I use. But I did successfully install Doom 3, AVG Free 8 and a couple other small utilities. Next up is Visual Studio 2008 SP1. :) Flynn
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Bob1000 wrote:
Does a Turkey look forward to Christmas?
In the same way as blind cave-fish. best, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
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I can't say for sure if it is the best, but I have seen far too many Ubuntu fan boys and so, why not give it a try? I've tried fedora and OpenSUSE so far and liked both of them so far. Let me see what Ubuntu has to offer I'd be damned if I see UI like sci-fi movies. My 19inch LCD would look gorgeous then :-D
------------------------------------------- It's code that drives you - Shyam
Ubuntu sucks. Had to reinstall 3 times in order to get it to work. One really quirky issue I noticed was that the install would crash if you try to install the OS in any other language but English while setting your location to US. Once I finally installed the OS, I found there is no way to change my screens resolution. I mean, there is a way, you have to modify X's config files by hand. You need to know your screens horizontal and vertical refresh rates ... That's Ubuntu 8.1 I'm talking about. Other Linux distros are a bit better. I think Fedora is the best. As far as Windows 7 goes, I'll put it on a virtual machine and check it out. I have not worked on Vista, and eventually I'll have to upgrade to 7, so I might as well give it a swirl...
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Ubuntu sucks. Had to reinstall 3 times in order to get it to work. One really quirky issue I noticed was that the install would crash if you try to install the OS in any other language but English while setting your location to US. Once I finally installed the OS, I found there is no way to change my screens resolution. I mean, there is a way, you have to modify X's config files by hand. You need to know your screens horizontal and vertical refresh rates ... That's Ubuntu 8.1 I'm talking about. Other Linux distros are a bit better. I think Fedora is the best. As far as Windows 7 goes, I'll put it on a virtual machine and check it out. I have not worked on Vista, and eventually I'll have to upgrade to 7, so I might as well give it a swirl...
Sounds more like the cd you were using was corrupted a bit... I have never had to install it more than once... :doh:
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We discussed it earlier the consensus seemed to be (as with Vista before it) that the people that had the least experience with it (indeed some had never even tried it) were the most willing to say the most negative things about it. :)
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
I've had a ton of experience with Vista and I have plenty of negative things to say about it. If it does what you want it to do that's great, but it doesn't do what I want it to and I've also had a lot of performance issues. It has admittedly gotten better, I've been using it since the final retail version came out and I stick by my opinion that what was originally released was pretty awful. What they have now is passable for most people, and I still use it for one of my boxes because I need experience with it in order to be able to support other users. Don't get me wrong there are some good features in Vista, they just aren't features I'm particularly interested in myself... I have high hopes that Windows 7 will be enough of an improvement for me to recommend it for more than just specialized cases (Gamers who want DX10, or Media Center users who want to take advantage of some of the advances there). I'm an MSDN subscriber so I have Windows 7 beta now, I just haven't had a chance to install it yet. I'll let you know my opinion when I do.
