Preferred hardware for developers?
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Curious about CPU/MEM etc used for ASP.NET developers? I use a Pentium Core2 Duo Laptop for design and coding, then Celeron desktop for final compile and packaging (read SLOW). Standard P4 servers for testing etc... Not interesed in brand name of computers, but curious about configurations?
Multiple cores, lots of RAM, and AT LEAST a 22-inch monitor. I prefer a pair of monitors. At home, I'm using a quad-core AMD with 8gb RAM on XP64 and a AMD dial-core laptop with 4gb RAM running XP/32. At work, it's a Dell Core2 Duo with 4gb RAM on Vista/64.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Curious about CPU/MEM etc used for ASP.NET developers? I use a Pentium Core2 Duo Laptop for design and coding, then Celeron desktop for final compile and packaging (read SLOW). Standard P4 servers for testing etc... Not interesed in brand name of computers, but curious about configurations?
As to my work computer, whatever I need and get from my boss. But since we mainly work on terminal servers and vm-ware, the one standing next to me is just a normal low power pc. My home computer is a quad core with 4gig ram and 2 graphical cards (I do a lot of multitasking :) ), and I'm currently trying to learn 3d drawing and such which requires a lot of power
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Multiple cores, lots of RAM, and AT LEAST a 22-inch monitor. I prefer a pair of monitors. At home, I'm using a quad-core AMD with 8gb RAM on XP64 and a AMD dial-core laptop with 4gb RAM running XP/32. At work, it's a Dell Core2 Duo with 4gb RAM on Vista/64.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
AMD dial-core
You can type the number of cores you want with that processor?
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I *like* to use multiprocessor, more ram than you can shake a stick at, and dual monitors (one for IDE, one for app being debugged) I try to make sure I underpowered hardware though - if my App(s) are responsive on my laptop, they'll be eaten up by the rackmount PCs we supply to customers. So, two philosophies for the price of one... Iain.
Codeproject MVP for C++, I can't believe it's for my lounge posts...
Iain Clarke wrote:
I try to make sure I underpowered hardware though - if my App(s) are responsive on my laptop, they'll be eaten up by the rackmount PCs we supply to customers.
Could you clarify this sentence? What means "I underpowered hardware?" Also, what do you mean by "eaten up?" Is that good or bad?
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Curious about CPU/MEM etc used for ASP.NET developers? I use a Pentium Core2 Duo Laptop for design and coding, then Celeron desktop for final compile and packaging (read SLOW). Standard P4 servers for testing etc... Not interesed in brand name of computers, but curious about configurations?
A Mac Pro is flat out the best dev environment you can have. I have 8 processors and 20 gig of RAM. This lets me run a VM without any slowdown. Then I can create multiple VMs which have different versions of IE, and different versions of Firefox. I can also easily maintain a vanilla OS, just by backing up a file. Finally, I can also test for Safari, so my website works for Mac users.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Multiple cores, lots of RAM, and AT LEAST a 22-inch monitor. I prefer a pair of monitors. At home, I'm using a quad-core AMD with 8gb RAM on XP64 and a AMD dial-core laptop with 4gb RAM running XP/32. At work, it's a Dell Core2 Duo with 4gb RAM on Vista/64.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Wow, if you add up all your PCs, you almost have as much power as my main Mac.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Iain Clarke wrote:
I try to make sure I underpowered hardware though - if my App(s) are responsive on my laptop, they'll be eaten up by the rackmount PCs we supply to customers.
Could you clarify this sentence? What means "I underpowered hardware?" Also, what do you mean by "eaten up?" Is that good or bad?
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Iain Clarke wrote: I try to make sure I use underpowered hardware though - if my App(s) are responsive on my laptop, they'll be eaten up by the rackmount PCs we supply to customers.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Could you clarify this sentence? What means "I underpowered hardware?"
I think what he wants to say is that he uses a system with lower power / RAM for development, so that on higher config customers' systems, the app would be really fast. :)
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Curious about CPU/MEM etc used for ASP.NET developers? I use a Pentium Core2 Duo Laptop for design and coding, then Celeron desktop for final compile and packaging (read SLOW). Standard P4 servers for testing etc... Not interesed in brand name of computers, but curious about configurations?
At work, 1.86GHz Core2 6300, I'm think this is dual core though it doesn't say Duo in system properties. 2 GB RAM. At home, Pentium 4HT at 3GHz and 1 GB RAM. On both systems, the hard disk is constantly the biggest bottleneck. At home this would probably be helped by having more RAM but at work it's mostly all the antivirus, software auditing, tortoisesvn and other things running in the background.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Iain Clarke wrote: I try to make sure I use underpowered hardware though - if my App(s) are responsive on my laptop, they'll be eaten up by the rackmount PCs we supply to customers.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Could you clarify this sentence? What means "I underpowered hardware?"
I think what he wants to say is that he uses a system with lower power / RAM for development, so that on higher config customers' systems, the app would be really fast. :)
OK Thanks! :-D
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Wow, if you add up all your PCs, you almost have as much power as my main Mac.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
And they probably still cost half as much
James Simpson Web Developer imebgo@hotmail.com P S - This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated
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Curious about CPU/MEM etc used for ASP.NET developers? I use a Pentium Core2 Duo Laptop for design and coding, then Celeron desktop for final compile and packaging (read SLOW). Standard P4 servers for testing etc... Not interesed in brand name of computers, but curious about configurations?
and all this is why, when I look at buying games for a PC, my own PC is now obsolete (after 3 years) and I had to buy a monstrous PC for my son just so he could play games on it. I wish developers, gaming in particular, would code apps to work on readily available kit rather than bleeding edge technology that mere mortals probably don't have and can't afford anyway.
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Iain Clarke wrote: I try to make sure I use underpowered hardware though - if my App(s) are responsive on my laptop, they'll be eaten up by the rackmount PCs we supply to customers.
Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Could you clarify this sentence? What means "I underpowered hardware?"
I think what he wants to say is that he uses a system with lower power / RAM for development, so that on higher config customers' systems, the app would be really fast. :)
Exactly right. Serves me right for posting while hungry... Iain.
Codeproject MVP for C++, I can't believe it's for my lounge posts...
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and all this is why, when I look at buying games for a PC, my own PC is now obsolete (after 3 years) and I had to buy a monstrous PC for my son just so he could play games on it. I wish developers, gaming in particular, would code apps to work on readily available kit rather than bleeding edge technology that mere mortals probably don't have and can't afford anyway.
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
If apps were not written for the bleeding edge, then they would a - not be as good as they can be ( and being cutting edge is surely the reason people spend a fortune on a gaming PC instead of buying an XBox 360 ? ) b - would not push the cutting edge into the mainstream by pushing innovation .
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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A Mac Pro is flat out the best dev environment you can have. I have 8 processors and 20 gig of RAM. This lets me run a VM without any slowdown. Then I can create multiple VMs which have different versions of IE, and different versions of Firefox. I can also easily maintain a vanilla OS, just by backing up a file. Finally, I can also test for Safari, so my website works for Mac users.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
A Mac Pro is flat out the best dev environment you can have. I have 8 processors and 20 gig of RAM
Why do you need a Mac for this? You can easliy get an equivalent (or better spec) on generic hardware, and probably for less money.
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And they probably still cost half as much
James Simpson Web Developer imebgo@hotmail.com P S - This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated
Mitch HedbergProbably, because that would be all they are worth. Macs cost more ( mine cost AU$6000 ) because they are better engineered than the average PC. Swapping RAM on my Mac was such a dream, I wanted to do it again. Nothing like the many times I have done it on many, many PCs. You get what you pay for.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Wow, if you add up all your PCs, you almost have as much power as my main Mac.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
you almost have as much power as my main Mac.
When it's working... I actually have five PCs at home, all running multi-core AMDs, and with the exception of the laptop, all in excess of 2.5ghz. Isn't your laptop 1.8ghz?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Christian Graus wrote:
A Mac Pro is flat out the best dev environment you can have. I have 8 processors and 20 gig of RAM
Why do you need a Mac for this? You can easliy get an equivalent (or better spec) on generic hardware, and probably for less money.
I've never seen a PC with 8 cores and 20 gig of RAM, so I have no idea how much that costs. however 1 - the Mac is flat out a nicer machine to use 2 - it means I also have Safari on the Mac to test against ( and FF if I want to install it ). I would not assume they work the same on PC and Mac.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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and all this is why, when I look at buying games for a PC, my own PC is now obsolete (after 3 years) and I had to buy a monstrous PC for my son just so he could play games on it. I wish developers, gaming in particular, would code apps to work on readily available kit rather than bleeding edge technology that mere mortals probably don't have and can't afford anyway.
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
I buy a monstrous PC every 5-6 years, in the end it comes up cheaper than upgrading all the time. And I never have any problems running the latest games/software, yes bye the time the pc is 5 years the game/software might not work as fast/smooth as on a new monstrous pc but it does run. And you really don't need to spend 5000 dollars to get a monstrous pc, if you look a bit at what you need you can get one for a lot less (mine that I bought 4 months ago was 2000€, still a lot but not impossibly expensive)
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If apps were not written for the bleeding edge, then they would a - not be as good as they can be ( and being cutting edge is surely the reason people spend a fortune on a gaming PC instead of buying an XBox 360 ? ) b - would not push the cutting edge into the mainstream by pushing innovation .
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
I'd prefer it if apps were written to make effective use of the tech available rather than throw increasingly vast numbers of horses at it. I'm fed up of being railroaded into having to buy more and more powerful machines just to run a program (OS) that makes the PC work. I type a letter no faster now than I did many years ago on a 486 25sx with a massive 4Mb memory. Sure I can tart it up with a load of spurious crap that the vendor has so nicely provided for me that I didn't want but uses up resources - woo - bloody - hooo.
My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"
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Christian Graus wrote:
you almost have as much power as my main Mac.
When it's working... I actually have five PCs at home, all running multi-core AMDs, and with the exception of the laptop, all in excess of 2.5ghz. Isn't your laptop 1.8ghz?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
When it's working...
I had some teething problems, especially with the VMs, but it's all running sweetly now.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I actually have five PCs at home, all running multi-core AMDs, and with the exception of the laptop, all in excess of 2.5ghz. Isn't your laptop 1.8ghz?
My laptop may be. No, it's a 2.4 GHz duo. I assume my Mac pro is at least as fast, and, it's 8 cores. My comment was meant to be glib tho, I'm sure your 5 PCs are on aggregate, at least as powerful as my two Macs :P
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
