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They are (as were their predecessors, FWIW). Do you have a link?
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
Do you have a link?
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/21/seagates_second_fault_fix/[^]
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Fascinating, positively fascinating!
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
It's been an interesting (and scary) ride so far, but as we've been running 4 years now I'm reasonably hopeful we'll be around for quite a while. Visual Lint[^] (my pet project - it's something I've wanted to do for a long time) seems to be getting quite well known now, although so far we've done minimal advertising.
That sounds great. My own, Netvareas (don't look up the website, I was in the middle of moving it to another host when I got bogged down with exams :doh:) will be closing its doors in Amman, Jordan and will be placed on the backburner until such a time when I deem its worth resurrecting because of the impending move to back to NA. Jordan/Arab world is a pathetically small market and what worthwhile projects exist are mostly controlled by the major players. The freelance market is nonexistent really. My pet project is an ultra-fast, SMSC (SMS Center) that I hope one day I'll be able to finish and cell sell.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
All of those are mostly because I hang around with interesting people. Being involved (albeit mainly as a delegate) in the ACCU Conference[^] is a great way to open your eyes to interesting stuff (we did a one day workshop on Erlang last year, and ACCU is where I finally got the message about TDD and development processes that work).
Erlang. Yummy :) That's really cool, I've only been a speaker at the local INETA group twice and it sucked, simply because the developers in Jordan aren't really interested which I find completely bonkers.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
As for hardware - if you're paying for it yourself, it pays to research it a bit before pressing the "Buy Now" button....
True. My hardware interests arise from my CEE background but really I'm more of a consumer than a designer/builder (not counting my home systems)
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
My pet project is an ultra-fast, SMSC (SMS Center) that I hope one day I'll be able to finish and cell sell.
Sounds good. For what it's worth I can recommend a couple of great places to hang out and learn about relevant "stuff" in the meantime: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/?biz[^] http://businessofsoftware.ning.com/[^]
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Erlang. Yummy Smile That's really cool, I've only been a speaker at the local INETA group twice and it sucked, simply because the developers in Jordan aren't really interested which I find completely bonkers.
I found Erlang fascinating - probably because I've a little bit of Prolog in my past! To be honest far too many developers don't care to learn anything new - it's certainly not just a problem in Jordan - The Two Types of Programmers[^] is just one commentary on the subject. When I visit companies I always run up against disinterested "80%" developers. You won't find them (for example) here in the Lounge. They're the ones who only register here to download code, and never even think of introducing themselves or writing an article. That's not to say that they are stupid or uneducated (often far from it) - merely disinterested in getting involved and/or (potentially) learning anything they don't have to. It's a real shame, but changing it is I suspect beyond us mere mortals.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
True. My hardware interests arise from my CEE background but really I'm more of a consumer than a designer/builder (not counting my home systems)
No worries. I've got an Electronic Engineering background myself. :cool:
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
Do you have a link?
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/21/seagates_second_fault_fix/[^]
Thanks. I'll look into it. :beer:
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
My pet project is an ultra-fast, SMSC (SMS Center) that I hope one day I'll be able to finish and cell sell.
Sounds good. For what it's worth I can recommend a couple of great places to hang out and learn about relevant "stuff" in the meantime: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/?biz[^] http://businessofsoftware.ning.com/[^]
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Erlang. Yummy Smile That's really cool, I've only been a speaker at the local INETA group twice and it sucked, simply because the developers in Jordan aren't really interested which I find completely bonkers.
I found Erlang fascinating - probably because I've a little bit of Prolog in my past! To be honest far too many developers don't care to learn anything new - it's certainly not just a problem in Jordan - The Two Types of Programmers[^] is just one commentary on the subject. When I visit companies I always run up against disinterested "80%" developers. You won't find them (for example) here in the Lounge. They're the ones who only register here to download code, and never even think of introducing themselves or writing an article. That's not to say that they are stupid or uneducated (often far from it) - merely disinterested in getting involved and/or (potentially) learning anything they don't have to. It's a real shame, but changing it is I suspect beyond us mere mortals.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
True. My hardware interests arise from my CEE background but really I'm more of a consumer than a designer/builder (not counting my home systems)
No worries. I've got an Electronic Engineering background myself. :cool:
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Didn't know about the second one, but actively read Joel's. Erlang is awesome if you can actually get the hang of it. It has an insane concurrency level that just has me in complete awe of its designer. I'd like to see some of those ideas implemented in other languages especially now that it is becoming an issue with the plethora of multi-cores that are out or are coming out.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
To be honest far too many developers don't care to learn anything new - it's certainly not just a problem in Jordan - The Two Types of Programmers[^] is just one commentary on the subject.
Yeah, I know, but it seems like its more so here. What's worse, you get some of these kids that graduate from the local schools and they think they're coding gods when in fact, they are mediocre at best. Its both funny and sad when they realize that there is so much for them to learn. Most of them end up going the sales route. I left MS middle east because they were trying to groom me for an evangelist position which would have got me out of the hardcore technical loop and into preaching the benefits of the technologies to come. No thanks.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
No worries. I've got an Electronic Engineering background myself.
Coolness! :cool:
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Didn't know about the second one, but actively read Joel's. Erlang is awesome if you can actually get the hang of it. It has an insane concurrency level that just has me in complete awe of its designer. I'd like to see some of those ideas implemented in other languages especially now that it is becoming an issue with the plethora of multi-cores that are out or are coming out.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
To be honest far too many developers don't care to learn anything new - it's certainly not just a problem in Jordan - The Two Types of Programmers[^] is just one commentary on the subject.
Yeah, I know, but it seems like its more so here. What's worse, you get some of these kids that graduate from the local schools and they think they're coding gods when in fact, they are mediocre at best. Its both funny and sad when they realize that there is so much for them to learn. Most of them end up going the sales route. I left MS middle east because they were trying to groom me for an evangelist position which would have got me out of the hardcore technical loop and into preaching the benefits of the technologies to come. No thanks.
Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
No worries. I've got an Electronic Engineering background myself.
Coolness! :cool:
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Didn't know about the second one, but actively read Joel's.
The second link is a new group (started in October by the Founder of Red Gate) which already has over 600 members and has had two social/networking gatherings already. They're the same sort of crowd as Joel's Business of Software Forum (the first link) so it's worth knowing about the group. :)
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Erlang is awesome if you can actually get the hang of it. It has an insane concurrency level that just has me in complete awe of its designer. I'd like to see some of those ideas implemented in other languages especially now that it is becoming an issue with the plethora of multi-cores that are out or are coming out.
It certainly is. Joe Armstrong (the designer) is an engaging and enthusiastic person to chat to as well...we met him at last year's conference.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Yeah, I know, but it seems like its more so here. What's worse, you get some of these kids that graduate from the local schools and they think they're coding gods when in fact, they are mediocre at best. Its both funny and sad when they realize that there is so much for them to learn. Most of them end up going the sales route. I left MS middle east because they were trying to groom me for an evangelist position which would have got me out of the hardcore technical loop and into preaching the benefits of the technologies to come. No thanks.
That's one reason the job description "Software Architect" makes me cringe. ;)
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Coolness!
Anytime. Have soldering iron,* will travel. :cool: * and NATO Standard Lump Hammer, but that's another discussion entirely...
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...but I didn't realise that formatting three 1.5TB NTFS disks would take quite that long. :doh: (On the plus side, the three 500GB disks which came out are now free for dev machine use. :) ) In the same order we received a pair of 320GB Buffalo Ministation drives for "mobile overspill and general backup stuff" use for something like £47 each. I still think that it's pretty damn amazing that you can get 320GB drives in a 2.5" form factor (I've actually also seen 500s, but the 320s were at the sweet spot) - never mind at that price. Incredible, really. :cool: Next up we're on the hunt for a pair of affordable quad core SFF machines to use as mobile grid computing demonstrators (we've a couple of conferences coming up in the spring they'd be ideal for). Shuttle is still naffly expensive for a decent spec, so if anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears. :)
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
Shuttle is still naffly expensive for a decent spec, so if anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears. Smile
Unfortunately shuttle has something approaching a stranglehold on the SFF market, and most smaller rivals seem to price at similar levels. I've looked off and on at it with the intent of setting up a dedicated nas, but going smaller than miniATX in a tower that supports full size cards is prohibitively expensive.
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
Shuttle is still naffly expensive for a decent spec, so if anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears. Smile
Unfortunately shuttle has something approaching a stranglehold on the SFF market, and most smaller rivals seem to price at similar levels. I've looked off and on at it with the intent of setting up a dedicated nas, but going smaller than miniATX in a tower that supports full size cards is prohibitively expensive.
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That's what I figured, but I thought I'd ask anyway. We do know of one supplier selling 4GB Q6600 (probably good enough for this) machines in SFF for £300 or so (no OS), and I suspect that's probably as good as we're going to get. FWIW we need portable machines for this, so SFF of some form is the way to go.
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That's what I figured, but I thought I'd ask anyway. We do know of one supplier selling 4GB Q6600 (probably good enough for this) machines in SFF for £300 or so (no OS), and I suspect that's probably as good as we're going to get. FWIW we need portable machines for this, so SFF of some form is the way to go.
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I don't know how they compare on price but have you looked at a Mac Mini?
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I don't know how they compare on price but have you looked at a Mac Mini?
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No..last I heard they weren't quad, but then I've not checked. We'd want units that we could swap 7200rpm 3.5" drives in and out of, FWIW....not sure if you can do that on a mini.
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That's what I figured, but I thought I'd ask anyway. We do know of one supplier selling 4GB Q6600 (probably good enough for this) machines in SFF for £300 or so (no OS), and I suspect that's probably as good as we're going to get. FWIW we need portable machines for this, so SFF of some form is the way to go.
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Nice, I knew you could DIY a $4-500 quad, but didn't realize anyone was selling them around that price.
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No..last I heard they weren't quad, but then I've not checked. We'd want units that we could swap 7200rpm 3.5" drives in and out of, FWIW....not sure if you can do that on a mini.
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IIRC it's a 2.5" drive. A friend of mine has one and complained it was a nightmare to open up and change anything (and odds are his change was a bigger HD).
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IIRC it's a 2.5" drive. A friend of mine has one and complained it was a nightmare to open up and change anything (and odds are his change was a bigger HD).
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That's what I thought...we use one in our church for music during services (I'm the standby mixing desk person when our real organist is away) and given the miniscule size of the thing I'd be amazed if you could easily upgrade anything but the mouse and keyboard. :rolleyes:
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Nice, I knew you could DIY a $4-500 quad, but didn't realize anyone was selling them around that price.
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It's an Ebay seller, so I've no idea of their providence (that's the catch). Integrated graphics and no OS, but otherwise not at all bad.
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That's what I thought...we use one in our church for music during services (I'm the standby mixing desk person when our real organist is away) and given the miniscule size of the thing I'd be amazed if you could easily upgrade anything but the mouse and keyboard. :rolleyes:
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actually now that I think about it it's a laptop CPU too, so quadding it while possible would be disgustingly expensive.
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...but I didn't realise that formatting three 1.5TB NTFS disks would take quite that long. :doh: (On the plus side, the three 500GB disks which came out are now free for dev machine use. :) ) In the same order we received a pair of 320GB Buffalo Ministation drives for "mobile overspill and general backup stuff" use for something like £47 each. I still think that it's pretty damn amazing that you can get 320GB drives in a 2.5" form factor (I've actually also seen 500s, but the 320s were at the sweet spot) - never mind at that price. Incredible, really. :cool: Next up we're on the hunt for a pair of affordable quad core SFF machines to use as mobile grid computing demonstrators (we've a couple of conferences coming up in the spring they'd be ideal for). Shuttle is still naffly expensive for a decent spec, so if anyone has any suggestions I'm all ears. :)
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Hi Anna: :rose: Noticed you were looking for a decent shuttle, http://shopsws.com/Pre_Built_Systems.htm[^] Although these guys are in the US, the freight is prob reasonable. I buy all my gear from these folks and they stand behind what they sell. Reasonable prices as well. Best of Luck rcb ;)
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Hi Anna: :rose: Noticed you were looking for a decent shuttle, http://shopsws.com/Pre_Built_Systems.htm[^] Although these guys are in the US, the freight is prob reasonable. I buy all my gear from these folks and they stand behind what they sell. Reasonable prices as well. Best of Luck rcb ;)
Thanks for the link Craig. Unfortunately it looks like those are all single or dual core systems...we're specifically looking for quad systems so we can build a mobile IncrediBuild grid with as few machines as possible. The reference machine we've found is an SFF 2.4GHz Q6600 quad box with 4GB RAM...they's going for just under £300 from a UK company. If we can match that with a recent Shuttle system, all the better...but it looks like that is a bit of a long shot.
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Hi Anna: :rose: Noticed you were looking for a decent shuttle, http://shopsws.com/Pre_Built_Systems.htm[^] Although these guys are in the US, the freight is prob reasonable. I buy all my gear from these folks and they stand behind what they sell. Reasonable prices as well. Best of Luck rcb ;)
Are the systems listed there the current list, it looks like everything there's at least a year old, much more than that for the p4 boxen.
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Are the systems listed there the current list, it looks like everything there's at least a year old, much more than that for the p4 boxen.
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dan neely wrote:
Are the systems listed there the current list, it looks like everything there's at least a year old, much more than that for the p4 boxen.
Dan Greetings :) Sorry my response was tardy but I was watching Obama's first news conf. Just noticed that myself, I am going to go to their store tomorrow, (I need another hdd), I will query them on that. However I think their price list page is current (at least the date tag is) :confused: http://shopsws.com/current_pricing.asp[^] regards; rcb
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dan neely wrote:
Are the systems listed there the current list, it looks like everything there's at least a year old, much more than that for the p4 boxen.
Dan Greetings :) Sorry my response was tardy but I was watching Obama's first news conf. Just noticed that myself, I am going to go to their store tomorrow, (I need another hdd), I will query them on that. However I think their price list page is current (at least the date tag is) :confused: http://shopsws.com/current_pricing.asp[^] regards; rcb