Obama and Change --- Where?
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Because it is my first whine about the new "President" Obama. Not candidate Obama! OK --- tell you what -- I'll hold my tongue on Obama for 6 months. Then we will evaluate the "change" he campaigned on. So far, so far, he is off to an inauspicious start. That sound fair?
AF Pilot
Yep, very decent. Again, I'm neither republican nor a Democrat. Both sites made choices that are right, and both made choices that are wrong. President Obama is going to make mistakes, just as any other President has. I just hope you don't hold him to a higher standard then you would have Sen. McCain or former President Bush.
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Yep, very decent. Again, I'm neither republican nor a Democrat. Both sites made choices that are right, and both made choices that are wrong. President Obama is going to make mistakes, just as any other President has. I just hope you don't hold him to a higher standard then you would have Sen. McCain or former President Bush.
EliottA wrote:
just hope you don't hold him to a higher standard then you would have Sen. McCain or former President Bush.
No, just the same standards the liberals/Dems imposed on Bush, no matter if Bush's decisions were right or wrong. All I wanted to do was maintain the same high standards set by the libs/Dems. I mean, chastising Bush over Hurricane Katrina?? Like he caused it?? Seems to me the only ones complaining were those still sitting on their asses waiting for Uncle Sam to come along and rebuild their homes for them, and the political hacks who tried to make political gain from it.
AF Pilot
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How about waiting more then 36 hours to expect all this change. As for change implemented in first 36 hours (which you wildly critisize) 1. Obama Signs Executive Order to close Gitmo[^] 2. President freezes pay for top staff[^] 3. Obama signs Executive orders about transparency and accountability for his administration.[^] Not bad for 36 hours. Before I start getting 1 voted, I'm not against Former President Bush. I was pro some of his actions, and against some of his actions. As I will be with President Obama. If you respect Former President Bush, try to respect President Obama as well, either way show respect to the office of the President of the United States.
EliottA wrote:
1. Obama Signs Executive Order to close Gitmo[^]
And what is he going to do with the tenants? 2. President freezes pay for top staff[^] And yet two of Washingtons suburbs remain the highest earning counties in all of America. Ocean - meet drop - Drop - meet ocean.
EliottA wrote:
3. Obama signs Executive orders about transparency and accountability for his administration.[^]
Talking the talk - hopefully they walk the walk.
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
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EliottA wrote:
1. Obama Signs Executive Order to close Gitmo[^]
And what is he going to do with the tenants? 2. President freezes pay for top staff[^] And yet two of Washingtons suburbs remain the highest earning counties in all of America. Ocean - meet drop - Drop - meet ocean.
EliottA wrote:
3. Obama signs Executive orders about transparency and accountability for his administration.[^]
Talking the talk - hopefully they walk the walk.
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
DRHuff wrote:
And yet two of Washingtons suburbs remain the highest earning counties in all of America. Ocean - meet drop - Drop - meet ocean.
Someone has to start somewhere, do you think it was going to be a complete change for all federal employees at once? Do you even know what the federal wage for some of those white house staffers are???
DRHuff wrote:
And what is he going to do with the tenants?
They have a year to figure that out, whatever they do, do you think the tenants would prefer remaining in Gitmo?
DRHuff wrote:
3. Obama signs Executive orders about transparency and accountability for his administration.[^] Talking the talk - hopefully they walk the walk.
An executive order has the full weight of the law. Give them a chance, how about more then 36 hours?
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This is the first of my whines to start getting even for all the whining that you libs did in the last 8 years. So Obama promised CHANGE. Example 1 - NO LOBBYISTS will be allowed in the administration - yet two are already part of his administration. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/12/obama_softens_ban_on_hiring_lobbyists/[^] Example 2 - Geithner as new Treasury Secretary -- can't pay his taxes like you and me. So now he's in charge of the very group (IRS) that he failed to pay taxes to. Innocent error? Yeah, right! He was championed as having the "leadership" to execute the Treasury Secretary's office better than ANYONE ELSE in the country, by both Dems and Reps. Does anyone in Washington know the DEFINITION of LEADERSHIP? Cause this ain't it! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123263598875806111.html?mod=googlenews_wsj[^] Sorry, but so far, I don't see a whole lot of FUNDAMENTAL change in Washington. You may send the cheese to go with that whine to your favorite charity food location.
AF Pilot
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Speaking of no change, this[^] was priceless.
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Thanks, BS -- that WAS priceless! You get my 5!
AF Pilot
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This is the first of my whines to start getting even for all the whining that you libs did in the last 8 years. So Obama promised CHANGE. Example 1 - NO LOBBYISTS will be allowed in the administration - yet two are already part of his administration. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/12/obama_softens_ban_on_hiring_lobbyists/[^] Example 2 - Geithner as new Treasury Secretary -- can't pay his taxes like you and me. So now he's in charge of the very group (IRS) that he failed to pay taxes to. Innocent error? Yeah, right! He was championed as having the "leadership" to execute the Treasury Secretary's office better than ANYONE ELSE in the country, by both Dems and Reps. Does anyone in Washington know the DEFINITION of LEADERSHIP? Cause this ain't it! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123263598875806111.html?mod=googlenews_wsj[^] Sorry, but so far, I don't see a whole lot of FUNDAMENTAL change in Washington. You may send the cheese to go with that whine to your favorite charity food location.
AF Pilot
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DRHuff wrote:
And yet two of Washingtons suburbs remain the highest earning counties in all of America. Ocean - meet drop - Drop - meet ocean.
Someone has to start somewhere, do you think it was going to be a complete change for all federal employees at once? Do you even know what the federal wage for some of those white house staffers are???
DRHuff wrote:
And what is he going to do with the tenants?
They have a year to figure that out, whatever they do, do you think the tenants would prefer remaining in Gitmo?
DRHuff wrote:
3. Obama signs Executive orders about transparency and accountability for his administration.[^] Talking the talk - hopefully they walk the walk.
An executive order has the full weight of the law. Give them a chance, how about more then 36 hours?
EliottA wrote:
They have a year to figure that out
I've heard talk of puting some in US prisons where they can recruit, convert and get a free education, all with free color TV. While the others go free to continue their work we admire so much. Don't know how close that is to the current ideas though.
EliottA wrote:
do you think the tenants would prefer remaining in Gitmo?
Personally, whatever they prefer the least is fine with me. I couldn't care less what they'd prefer. And the day I decide to be a terrorist against another country, I'll expect no better from them.
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EliottA wrote:
They have a year to figure that out
I've heard talk of puting some in US prisons where they can recruit, convert and get a free education, all with free color TV. While the others go free to continue their work we admire so much. Don't know how close that is to the current ideas though.
EliottA wrote:
do you think the tenants would prefer remaining in Gitmo?
Personally, whatever they prefer the least is fine with me. I couldn't care less what they'd prefer. And the day I decide to be a terrorist against another country, I'll expect no better from them.
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BoneSoft wrote:
I've heard talk of puting some in US prisons where they can recruit, convert and get a free education, all with free color TV. While the others go free to continue their work we admire so much. Don't know how close that is to the current ideas though.
because who wouldn't love to go into prison right?
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This is the first of my whines to start getting even for all the whining that you libs did in the last 8 years. So Obama promised CHANGE. Example 1 - NO LOBBYISTS will be allowed in the administration - yet two are already part of his administration. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/12/obama_softens_ban_on_hiring_lobbyists/[^] Example 2 - Geithner as new Treasury Secretary -- can't pay his taxes like you and me. So now he's in charge of the very group (IRS) that he failed to pay taxes to. Innocent error? Yeah, right! He was championed as having the "leadership" to execute the Treasury Secretary's office better than ANYONE ELSE in the country, by both Dems and Reps. Does anyone in Washington know the DEFINITION of LEADERSHIP? Cause this ain't it! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123263598875806111.html?mod=googlenews_wsj[^] Sorry, but so far, I don't see a whole lot of FUNDAMENTAL change in Washington. You may send the cheese to go with that whine to your favorite charity food location.
AF Pilot
Reagan Conservative wrote:
So now he's in charge of the very group (IRS) that he failed to pay taxes to.
Just think of the poor shumck(s) that were responsible for serving up ole Geithner. I bet there will be a few more mail clerks and a few less branch chiefs Monday morning at the IRS.
MrPlankton
Mexican boy: Viene la tormenta! Sarah Connor: What did he just say? Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.
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BoneSoft wrote:
I've heard talk of puting some in US prisons where they can recruit, convert and get a free education, all with free color TV. While the others go free to continue their work we admire so much. Don't know how close that is to the current ideas though.
because who wouldn't love to go into prison right?
You're not getting it. I don't care in the least what they want or prefer. Puting them in the US is a negative. Puting them in prison gives them opportunities. But I don't know what would be best to do with them now. I hope we got some REALLY good information from them, because they will be a headache from here on out.
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Reagan Conservative wrote:
Sorry, but so far, I don't see a whole lot of FUNDAMENTAL change in Washington.
So what exactly are you whining about? I mean you like it the way it is right?
led mike
No, Mike, I wasn't the one on TV pledging all these campaign promises about "change". If he doesn't start "change" now, then when?
AF Pilot
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This is the first of my whines to start getting even for all the whining that you libs did in the last 8 years. So Obama promised CHANGE. Example 1 - NO LOBBYISTS will be allowed in the administration - yet two are already part of his administration. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/12/obama_softens_ban_on_hiring_lobbyists/[^] Example 2 - Geithner as new Treasury Secretary -- can't pay his taxes like you and me. So now he's in charge of the very group (IRS) that he failed to pay taxes to. Innocent error? Yeah, right! He was championed as having the "leadership" to execute the Treasury Secretary's office better than ANYONE ELSE in the country, by both Dems and Reps. Does anyone in Washington know the DEFINITION of LEADERSHIP? Cause this ain't it! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123263598875806111.html?mod=googlenews_wsj[^] Sorry, but so far, I don't see a whole lot of FUNDAMENTAL change in Washington. You may send the cheese to go with that whine to your favorite charity food location.
AF Pilot
So, when your mom wants to feed you, does she gaz the basement or she shoot you with a tranquilizer gun ?
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Reagan Conservative wrote:
So now he's in charge of the very group (IRS) that he failed to pay taxes to.
Just think of the poor shumck(s) that were responsible for serving up ole Geithner. I bet there will be a few more mail clerks and a few less branch chiefs Monday morning at the IRS.
MrPlankton
Mexican boy: Viene la tormenta! Sarah Connor: What did he just say? Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.
You may be right, and I'm LMAO! That was probably very accurate prediction.
AF Pilot
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So, when your mom wants to feed you, does she gaz the basement or she shoot you with a tranquilizer gun ?
This signature was proudly tested on animals.
And what the hell are you smoking? Maybe one of your compatriots can explain what you are muttering about? Or did you just feel the need to add nothing? You succeeded!
AF Pilot
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Reagan Conservative wrote:
BUT THAT IS NOT THE CHANGE HE WAS SPOUNTING DURING THE CAMPAIGN
YES IT IS.
;P Ya see? Me can shout louder than you! And, in 36 hours, it is more good things than the big moron did in 8 years. So STFU.
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
Diego Moita wrote:
big moron did in 8 years
Clinton?
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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No, Mike, I wasn't the one on TV pledging all these campaign promises about "change". If he doesn't start "change" now, then when?
AF Pilot
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Diego Moita wrote:
big moron did in 8 years
Clinton?
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
Clinton?
Interesting question. Let's see: "big moron" Bush 23 points X "big moron" Clinton 9 points[^]. And for the first place in big moron...[^] So the winner is... :-\
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
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This is the first of my whines to start getting even for all the whining that you libs did in the last 8 years. So Obama promised CHANGE. Example 1 - NO LOBBYISTS will be allowed in the administration - yet two are already part of his administration. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/12/obama_softens_ban_on_hiring_lobbyists/[^] Example 2 - Geithner as new Treasury Secretary -- can't pay his taxes like you and me. So now he's in charge of the very group (IRS) that he failed to pay taxes to. Innocent error? Yeah, right! He was championed as having the "leadership" to execute the Treasury Secretary's office better than ANYONE ELSE in the country, by both Dems and Reps. Does anyone in Washington know the DEFINITION of LEADERSHIP? Cause this ain't it! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123263598875806111.html?mod=googlenews_wsj[^] Sorry, but so far, I don't see a whole lot of FUNDAMENTAL change in Washington. You may send the cheese to go with that whine to your favorite charity food location.
AF Pilot
He actually said that lobbyists working in his administration won't be allowed to lobby. He didn't say they couldn't work for him. And that they wouldn't be allowed to lobby his administration upon leaving governemnt. And... Geithner paid his taxes. Just late. It was a situation where he assumed his taxes were paid by the employer when they weren't. But he has paid those taxes. SO, you are suggesting that we don't hire humans? Instead we need these fantastical people who never make mistakes in life?
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You're not getting it. I don't care in the least what they want or prefer. Puting them in the US is a negative. Puting them in prison gives them opportunities. But I don't know what would be best to do with them now. I hope we got some REALLY good information from them, because they will be a headache from here on out.
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They need to be charged before they can be guilty. Then they need to be tried before they can be guilty. Some might be guilty. Some might not. I'd prefer we didn't take such a cavalier approach to detainees. If there are innocents in there, they do deserve justice. Right now all they have is limbo. AND until they are proven guilty they are still human. But, feel free to just blindly hate without critical thought. Which will most likely drip in your response to this post. If you even bother.
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