Something that bothers me
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Ok, I am not a big fan of any proposed legislation to prevent drivers from operating cell phones while driving. There really are many other driver distractions that should be legislated first that never will, such as putting on make-up, shaving, masticating, the other m-word, changing clothes, smoking, yelling at kids, yelling at parents, doing drugs (ok that one is probably illegal), changing drivers with cruise control on, etc. With all that said, however, it really ticks me off when Bus Drivers, Cab Drivers, Police Officers, and other public safety professional's use cell phones while driving their vehicles. I don't use a cell phone while programming for a very good reason, it is my job and I cannot perform it to the fullest while on my cell. This post brought on by the aggressive driving cabbie I had this morning who seemed physically attached to his phone.
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Ok, I am not a big fan of any proposed legislation to prevent drivers from operating cell phones while driving. There really are many other driver distractions that should be legislated first that never will, such as putting on make-up, shaving, masticating, the other m-word, changing clothes, smoking, yelling at kids, yelling at parents, doing drugs (ok that one is probably illegal), changing drivers with cruise control on, etc. With all that said, however, it really ticks me off when Bus Drivers, Cab Drivers, Police Officers, and other public safety professional's use cell phones while driving their vehicles. I don't use a cell phone while programming for a very good reason, it is my job and I cannot perform it to the fullest while on my cell. This post brought on by the aggressive driving cabbie I had this morning who seemed physically attached to his phone.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Just be thankful your cab wasn't being remote-operated from a cabbie outsourcing company.
Best wishes, Hans
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Ok, I am not a big fan of any proposed legislation to prevent drivers from operating cell phones while driving. There really are many other driver distractions that should be legislated first that never will, such as putting on make-up, shaving, masticating, the other m-word, changing clothes, smoking, yelling at kids, yelling at parents, doing drugs (ok that one is probably illegal), changing drivers with cruise control on, etc. With all that said, however, it really ticks me off when Bus Drivers, Cab Drivers, Police Officers, and other public safety professional's use cell phones while driving their vehicles. I don't use a cell phone while programming for a very good reason, it is my job and I cannot perform it to the fullest while on my cell. This post brought on by the aggressive driving cabbie I had this morning who seemed physically attached to his phone.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.In the UK, some of those that you mention are illegal. There's a "catch all" offense called Driving Without Due Care and Attention. People have been prosecuted for e.g. putting make up on while stationary in a traffic jam. It doesn't apply to bus and cab drivers, but the argument for police using mobile communications while driving is that they have been trained to do those tasks simultaneously. The main problem is that a large number of people have become addicted to their mobile phones. They can't bear to turn them off, and feel compelled to answer them when they ring, regardless of the situation they are in (eg driving).
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Just be thankful your cab wasn't being remote-operated from a cabbie outsourcing company.
Best wishes, Hans
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Welcome [^] Hans. :)
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In the UK, some of those that you mention are illegal. There's a "catch all" offense called Driving Without Due Care and Attention. People have been prosecuted for e.g. putting make up on while stationary in a traffic jam. It doesn't apply to bus and cab drivers, but the argument for police using mobile communications while driving is that they have been trained to do those tasks simultaneously. The main problem is that a large number of people have become addicted to their mobile phones. They can't bear to turn them off, and feel compelled to answer them when they ring, regardless of the situation they are in (eg driving).
Police are people too and suffer the same ill-effects. A paid professional should always be held to a higher standard than those he or she wishes to serve.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
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Police are people too and suffer the same ill-effects. A paid professional should always be held to a higher standard than those he or she wishes to serve.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
A paid professional should always be held to a higher standard than those he or she wishes to serve.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Police are people too and suffer the same ill-effects. A paid professional should always be held to a higher standard than those he or she wishes to serve.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.What's surprising about all this is that local/state governments haven't caught on to the potential revenue opportunity - i.e., for an extra $50, have your driver's license "upgraded" to include cell phone use. Also, if you're given a ticket for DWUCP, you have to take a mandatory course (fee: $100) on how to not use a cell phone.
Best wishes, Hans
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
A paid professional should always be held to a higher standard than those he or she wishes to serve.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Isn't that the watchwomans job?:cool:
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Police are people too and suffer the same ill-effects. A paid professional should always be held to a higher standard than those he or she wishes to serve.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.But police are also trained to handle high speed pursuits and I don't think you can say that from everyone.
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Ok, I am not a big fan of any proposed legislation to prevent drivers from operating cell phones while driving. There really are many other driver distractions that should be legislated first that never will, such as putting on make-up, shaving, masticating, the other m-word, changing clothes, smoking, yelling at kids, yelling at parents, doing drugs (ok that one is probably illegal), changing drivers with cruise control on, etc. With all that said, however, it really ticks me off when Bus Drivers, Cab Drivers, Police Officers, and other public safety professional's use cell phones while driving their vehicles. I don't use a cell phone while programming for a very good reason, it is my job and I cannot perform it to the fullest while on my cell. This post brought on by the aggressive driving cabbie I had this morning who seemed physically attached to his phone.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Talking on the phone and driving is illegal here without hands free, but you'll see all the other things you mentioned going on and public servant figures seem to be just as guilty.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one
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Welcome [^] Hans. :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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In the UK, some of those that you mention are illegal. There's a "catch all" offense called Driving Without Due Care and Attention. People have been prosecuted for e.g. putting make up on while stationary in a traffic jam. It doesn't apply to bus and cab drivers, but the argument for police using mobile communications while driving is that they have been trained to do those tasks simultaneously. The main problem is that a large number of people have become addicted to their mobile phones. They can't bear to turn them off, and feel compelled to answer them when they ring, regardless of the situation they are in (eg driving).
Graham Bradshaw wrote:
the argument for police using mobile communications while driving is that they have been trained to do those tasks simultaneously.
But no one offers that certification for anyone else :) I would love to take a course that teaches me what I need to know to be allowed to drive fast, swerve in and out of traffic and all those cool things.... where do I sign up? Actually, its a load of bunk. Yes, they get trained, but police could use hands free just like anyone else. Give me a good quality earpeace and a throat mic any day. The simple fact is that because they are law enforcement no one calls them on it and they 'just get to do it'.
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Graham Bradshaw wrote:
the argument for police using mobile communications while driving is that they have been trained to do those tasks simultaneously.
But no one offers that certification for anyone else :) I would love to take a course that teaches me what I need to know to be allowed to drive fast, swerve in and out of traffic and all those cool things.... where do I sign up? Actually, its a load of bunk. Yes, they get trained, but police could use hands free just like anyone else. Give me a good quality earpeace and a throat mic any day. The simple fact is that because they are law enforcement no one calls them on it and they 'just get to do it'.
Ray Cassick wrote:
I would love to take a course that teaches me what I need to know to be allowed to drive fast, swerve in and out of traffic and all those cool things.... where do I sign up?
Don't you just become a traffic cop?
Ray Cassick wrote:
Yes, they get trained, but police could use hands free just like anyone else.
They have multiple communication devices - the police don't just use a cellphone.
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Graham Bradshaw wrote:
the argument for police using mobile communications while driving is that they have been trained to do those tasks simultaneously.
But no one offers that certification for anyone else :) I would love to take a course that teaches me what I need to know to be allowed to drive fast, swerve in and out of traffic and all those cool things.... where do I sign up? Actually, its a load of bunk. Yes, they get trained, but police could use hands free just like anyone else. Give me a good quality earpeace and a throat mic any day. The simple fact is that because they are law enforcement no one calls them on it and they 'just get to do it'.
I tried. I took them to court and lost. Getting applause in court is fun.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
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Ok, I am not a big fan of any proposed legislation to prevent drivers from operating cell phones while driving. There really are many other driver distractions that should be legislated first that never will, such as putting on make-up, shaving, masticating, the other m-word, changing clothes, smoking, yelling at kids, yelling at parents, doing drugs (ok that one is probably illegal), changing drivers with cruise control on, etc. With all that said, however, it really ticks me off when Bus Drivers, Cab Drivers, Police Officers, and other public safety professional's use cell phones while driving their vehicles. I don't use a cell phone while programming for a very good reason, it is my job and I cannot perform it to the fullest while on my cell. This post brought on by the aggressive driving cabbie I had this morning who seemed physically attached to his phone.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.I have similar feelings about drinking and driving. It's not that I don't see the logic trying to keep people from doing stupid things with their cars due to being impaired. It's just the unfairness of it all. If I get pulled over for doing something brainless and I've had a drink, I go to jail. If the guy next to me does the same thing he gets a ticket. I'll be more supportive of the drunk driving laws when they impose the same penalties for Driving While Stupid. In the interest of full disclosure, given my reputation, I quit drinking and driving in 1985. If I so much as peel the label off a bottle of beer, the keys are retired until the next day. But still... BTW, Ennis - sorry I missed you in Atlanta. Nish emailed me, but life has been beyond insane for a couple of months now. Perhaps your next visit will coincide with my return to sanity!
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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I have similar feelings about drinking and driving. It's not that I don't see the logic trying to keep people from doing stupid things with their cars due to being impaired. It's just the unfairness of it all. If I get pulled over for doing something brainless and I've had a drink, I go to jail. If the guy next to me does the same thing he gets a ticket. I'll be more supportive of the drunk driving laws when they impose the same penalties for Driving While Stupid. In the interest of full disclosure, given my reputation, I quit drinking and driving in 1985. If I so much as peel the label off a bottle of beer, the keys are retired until the next day. But still... BTW, Ennis - sorry I missed you in Atlanta. Nish emailed me, but life has been beyond insane for a couple of months now. Perhaps your next visit will coincide with my return to sanity!
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
No worries, turns out my week was equally as insane. Allegedly I am flying back to pick up my car on the Ides of March but with the way my schedule changes I am just glad I am not paying for parking.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego. -
Ok, I am not a big fan of any proposed legislation to prevent drivers from operating cell phones while driving. There really are many other driver distractions that should be legislated first that never will, such as putting on make-up, shaving, masticating, the other m-word, changing clothes, smoking, yelling at kids, yelling at parents, doing drugs (ok that one is probably illegal), changing drivers with cruise control on, etc. With all that said, however, it really ticks me off when Bus Drivers, Cab Drivers, Police Officers, and other public safety professional's use cell phones while driving their vehicles. I don't use a cell phone while programming for a very good reason, it is my job and I cannot perform it to the fullest while on my cell. This post brought on by the aggressive driving cabbie I had this morning who seemed physically attached to his phone.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
There really are many other driver distractions that should be legislated first that never will, such as putting on make-up, shaving, masticating, the other m-word, changing clothes, smoking, yelling at kids, yelling at parents, doing drugs (ok that one is probably illegal), changing drivers with cruise control on, etc.
I agree. I already use a bluetooth hands free, what more needs to be done about using a cell while driving? There are plenty of other distractions out there.
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
it really ticks me off when Bus Drivers, Cab Drivers, Police Officers, and other public safety professional's use cell phones while driving their vehicles
Yep. That ticks me off too.
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No worries, turns out my week was equally as insane. Allegedly I am flying back to pick up my car on the Ides of March but with the way my schedule changes I am just glad I am not paying for parking.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I am just glad I am not paying for parking.
I'm sure you're right about that. I'm currently doing a gig working on the software that manages airport parking lots. Just can't seem to stay away from that airport stuff...
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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Ray Cassick wrote:
I would love to take a course that teaches me what I need to know to be allowed to drive fast, swerve in and out of traffic and all those cool things.... where do I sign up?
Don't you just become a traffic cop?
Ray Cassick wrote:
Yes, they get trained, but police could use hands free just like anyone else.
They have multiple communication devices - the police don't just use a cellphone.
Graham Bradshaw wrote:
Don't you just become a traffic cop?
No, I don't want to fight crime, I just wanna drive fast :)
Graham Bradshaw wrote:
the police don't just use a cellphone.
I know, and that can be addressed also. Let's not even discuss their use of the laptop while driving...
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Graham Bradshaw wrote:
Don't you just become a traffic cop?
No, I don't want to fight crime, I just wanna drive fast :)
Graham Bradshaw wrote:
the police don't just use a cellphone.
I know, and that can be addressed also. Let's not even discuss their use of the laptop while driving...
Ray Cassick wrote:
No, I don't want to fight crime, I just wanna drive fast
Like I said, become a traffic cop. :laugh: