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  • S stevepqr

    Anyone with any Delphi experience? I have none. Would a good Delphi programmer have any problems switching to C++?

    Apathy Rules - I suppose...

    Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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    Hans Dietrich
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    Pascal and C++ share a lot of similar concepts. I have always thought that the C++ syntax is cleaner than Pascal, but then again I have always hated Pascal. So no, I don't think there will be any problems.

    Best wishes, Hans


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    • H Hans Dietrich

      Pascal and C++ share a lot of similar concepts. I have always thought that the C++ syntax is cleaner than Pascal, but then again I have always hated Pascal. So no, I don't think there will be any problems.

      Best wishes, Hans


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      Thanks

      Apathy Rules - I suppose...

      Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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      • S stevepqr

        Anyone with any Delphi experience? I have none. Would a good Delphi programmer have any problems switching to C++?

        Apathy Rules - I suppose...

        Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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        Clickok
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        Delphi is a excellent language. It's bad that got a lot of company-change lately (Borland - Inprise - Borland again - CodeGear - Embarcadero). But IMHO it's the best choice to Win32 development. Anything that you want do with C++ on Win32 you can do in Delphi. Some links to you: Free and Official Turbo Delphi[^] Tons of free components[^] Best Delphi Books - with a lot of information and a good start point[^]


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        • S stevepqr

          Anyone with any Delphi experience? I have none. Would a good Delphi programmer have any problems switching to C++?

          Apathy Rules - I suppose...

          Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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          phannon86
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          I posted about me switching to it a while back from C#, was supposed to happen about a month ago, but one lagging project is delaying the switch-over, so those who were awaiting my feedback will have to wait a bit longer :)

          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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          • S stevepqr

            Anyone with any Delphi experience? I have none. Would a good Delphi programmer have any problems switching to C++?

            Apathy Rules - I suppose...

            Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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            Joan M
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            10 or 11 years ago I worked with Delphi 5. It was good, very good. In fact, the component library made programming extremely similar to the actual .NET framework. The main language, as others have said is pascal and it is not very different to C++. In fact, what I felt when I learned C++ was more freedom in the ways of doing things. I love C++ though, so my opinion can be a little bit biased... Truly I did not got why that software did not become more popular as it was very simple to work with it and moreover it seemed very powerful. But I'm not a guru here so... Hope this helps... :rose:

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              10 or 11 years ago I worked with Delphi 5. It was good, very good. In fact, the component library made programming extremely similar to the actual .NET framework. The main language, as others have said is pascal and it is not very different to C++. In fact, what I felt when I learned C++ was more freedom in the ways of doing things. I love C++ though, so my opinion can be a little bit biased... Truly I did not got why that software did not become more popular as it was very simple to work with it and moreover it seemed very powerful. But I'm not a guru here so... Hope this helps... :rose:

              [www.tamelectromecanica.com][www.tam.cat]

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              Christopher Duncan
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              From my perspective on the outside looking in, it seems that Delphi was an excellent product owned, unfortunatly, by what has become one of the most disfunctional companies in our biz. Borland was awesome in the early days under Phillipe Khan but after his reign they've become a herd of sheep that really can't seem to find their posterior with both hands and a flashlight. Where's a border collie when you need one?

              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                From my perspective on the outside looking in, it seems that Delphi was an excellent product owned, unfortunatly, by what has become one of the most disfunctional companies in our biz. Borland was awesome in the early days under Phillipe Khan but after his reign they've become a herd of sheep that really can't seem to find their posterior with both hands and a flashlight. Where's a border collie when you need one?

                Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                Joan M
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                Probably you are more than right... I did not know why it did not worked, but at least it seemed a very good product to me...

                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Where's a border collie when you need one?

                Great dog!

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                  Probably you are more than right... I did not know why it did not worked, but at least it seemed a very good product to me...

                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                  Where's a border collie when you need one?

                  Great dog!

                  [www.tamelectromecanica.com][www.tam.cat]

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  Well, you've been around the business long enough to know that it's not the best quality product, but rather the best marketing machine, that wins. Were it otherwise, I most likely would have chosen the Unix path long ago.

                  Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    From my perspective on the outside looking in, it seems that Delphi was an excellent product owned, unfortunatly, by what has become one of the most disfunctional companies in our biz. Borland was awesome in the early days under Phillipe Khan but after his reign they've become a herd of sheep that really can't seem to find their posterior with both hands and a flashlight. Where's a border collie when you need one?

                    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                    Hans Dietrich
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                    A friend told me that years ago he interviewed at one of the product groups at Borland. This particular group wasn't in the main Borland building - they were running out of room, and so moved this group to another building. The offices this group was in happened to be right next to a women's gym. The manager who interviewed my friend had nice big windows, that faced the entrance to the women's gym. My friend told me that to this day he cannot remember what the manager looked like. (He didn't get the job.) :)

                    Best wishes, Hans


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                      A friend told me that years ago he interviewed at one of the product groups at Borland. This particular group wasn't in the main Borland building - they were running out of room, and so moved this group to another building. The offices this group was in happened to be right next to a women's gym. The manager who interviewed my friend had nice big windows, that faced the entrance to the women's gym. My friend told me that to this day he cannot remember what the manager looked like. (He didn't get the job.) :)

                      Best wishes, Hans


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                      Christopher Duncan
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                      Now I understand why Borland can't get anything done! :-D

                      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                        Now I understand why Borland can't get anything done! :-D

                        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                        Henry Minute
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                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                        Now I understand why Borland can't get anything done

                        It is dreadful isn't it? They are slower than the Mono mob at implementing .NET Framework changes. For a commercial organization, that beggars belief.

                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"

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                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                          Now I understand why Borland can't get anything done

                          It is dreadful isn't it? They are slower than the Mono mob at implementing .NET Framework changes. For a commercial organization, that beggars belief.

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"

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                          Christopher Duncan
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                          I've long believed that I could boost both the productivy and profits of any major company by walking in and firing the middle third of management. Now if I could just get them to pay me for that...

                          Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                            I've long believed that I could boost both the productivy and profits of any major company by walking in and firing the middle third of management. Now if I could just get them to pay me for that...

                            Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                            Henry Minute
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                            You mean it wasn't you at MicroSoft?

                            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"

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                            • H Hans Dietrich

                              Pascal and C++ share a lot of similar concepts. I have always thought that the C++ syntax is cleaner than Pascal, but then again I have always hated Pascal. So no, I don't think there will be any problems.

                              Best wishes, Hans


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                              Jim Crafton
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                              As I ObjectPascal fan, I'd have to quarrel with you there. If by "cleaner" you mean fewer characters, then yeah, but in terms of clarity, I find, personally, that I much prefer ObjectPascal to C++ syntax. Note I'm referring to the variant of Pascal that's used in Delphi, not the older versions of the language.

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                              • S stevepqr

                                Anyone with any Delphi experience? I have none. Would a good Delphi programmer have any problems switching to C++?

                                Apathy Rules - I suppose...

                                Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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                                Jim Crafton
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                                Back in late 1999 I had the same problem. Learning C++ wasn't too bad. Switching from the productive Delphi IDE and VCL framework to VC6 and MFC was brutal though and for months I was pulling my hair out.

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                                • S stevepqr

                                  Anyone with any Delphi experience? I have none. Would a good Delphi programmer have any problems switching to C++?

                                  Apathy Rules - I suppose...

                                  Its not the things you fear that come to get you but all the things that you don't expect

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                                  Single Step Debugger
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                                  I started with C++, moved to Delphi /ver. 5 and 6 / for a several years and from more then 5 years I’m back in C++ universe with some small deviations in Java and C#(that’s how they call Delphi these days). So regarding my experience you will have no problems moving from Object Pascal to C++. Moving from BCL to .Net is even easier. My advice is if you have a choice go for C# instead of C++. If you like Object Pascal you will feel very comfortable with it. The fact that the two languages are created from same person /several good words for MS here/ is very noticeable.

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                                    Back in late 1999 I had the same problem. Learning C++ wasn't too bad. Switching from the productive Delphi IDE and VCL framework to VC6 and MFC was brutal though and for months I was pulling my hair out.

                                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                    Single Step Debugger
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                                    Been there, done that.

                                    The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                      Delphi is a excellent language. It's bad that got a lot of company-change lately (Borland - Inprise - Borland again - CodeGear - Embarcadero). But IMHO it's the best choice to Win32 development. Anything that you want do with C++ on Win32 you can do in Delphi. Some links to you: Free and Official Turbo Delphi[^] Tons of free components[^] Best Delphi Books - with a lot of information and a good start point[^]


                                      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                                      Single Step Debugger
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                                      I have all books from Marco Cantu. This guy made me a professional programmer. I own him a LOT.

                                      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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