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  • N Nish Nishant

    Ray Cassick wrote:

    OK, I thought perhaps it was an accident, but it turns out that the lady that just recently had octuplets ALREADY had 6 children and was on FERTILITY drugs to go another round...

    Wow - sounds like someone from one of India's poorer states - the poorer people are, the more kids they have. :sigh:

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    Ray Cassick
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    That happens here all the time. More kids = more cash

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      That happens here all the time. More kids = more cash

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      Nish Nishant
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      Ray Cassick wrote:

      More kids = more cash

      Not in most parts of India though - more kids usually mean more kids to starve :-(

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      • O Oakman

        Ray Cassick wrote:

        Anything over 2 is simply a statistical experiment

        Not exactly. It also shows great faith in the nanny-state. Her hospital bill will be in the hundreds of thousands (according Dr. Snyderman of NBC) and while it seems very likely she has insurance, when the insurance company pays out out like that, everybody's premiums go up. Her husband is a contractor in Iraq. He's coming home, apparently out of work, next month. What's the payout for aid to families with fourteen dependent children? Preemies that young often (not always) have physical and mental problems that mean they can never be fully functioning members of society. Although they were all able to breathe on their own a day after being born, two of them now are on ventolaters.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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        Oakman wrote:

        Her husband is a contractor in Iraq. He's coming home, apparently out of work, next month. What's the payout for aid to families with fourteen dependent children?

        The flip side is that depending on what he's doing as a contractor he might actually be making enough money to support that many without assistance. AFAIK Blackwater, etc pay around ~$500k/year for special forces type contractors.

        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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        • R Ray Cassick

          [ALMOST posted tot he Lounge :) ] OK, I thought perhaps it was an accident, but it turns out that the lady that just recently had octuplets ALREADY had 6 children and was on FERTILITY drugs to go another round... http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30/mother.octuplets/index.html?iref=mpstoryview[^] Why don't people look around them and see that there are already far too many of us here right now. If you already have 6 why the hell would you want even one more? I get the whole thing that having a kid is a great deal. I know that, and even though it was difficult at times, I loved watching my son grow up, and I would not have traded it for anything, but come on... Anything over 2 is simply a statistical experiment, like flipping a genetic coin. OK,

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          First 6 kids, and now adding 8 more. I smell a reality TV show in it's beginnings. Wish them all well. :)

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          • R Ray Cassick

            [ALMOST posted tot he Lounge :) ] OK, I thought perhaps it was an accident, but it turns out that the lady that just recently had octuplets ALREADY had 6 children and was on FERTILITY drugs to go another round... http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30/mother.octuplets/index.html?iref=mpstoryview[^] Why don't people look around them and see that there are already far too many of us here right now. If you already have 6 why the hell would you want even one more? I get the whole thing that having a kid is a great deal. I know that, and even though it was difficult at times, I loved watching my son grow up, and I would not have traded it for anything, but come on... Anything over 2 is simply a statistical experiment, like flipping a genetic coin. OK,

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place? If she had 6 sprogs she should have kicked out on her arse and I'm surprised that any insurance company, given the circumstances, would have either paid for the treatment or the delivery. This is one fucking selfish family: they'll expect everyone else to support them.

            me, me, me

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              Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place? If she had 6 sprogs she should have kicked out on her arse and I'm surprised that any insurance company, given the circumstances, would have either paid for the treatment or the delivery. This is one fucking selfish family: they'll expect everyone else to support them.

              me, me, me

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              digital man wrote:

              Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place?

              $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place? If she had 6 sprogs she should have kicked out on her arse and I'm surprised that any insurance company, given the circumstances, would have either paid for the treatment or the delivery. This is one fucking selfish family: they'll expect everyone else to support them.

                me, me, me

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                digital man wrote:

                Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place?

                The only requirement for fertility treatment is being able to pay for it out of pocket.

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                • O Oakman

                  Ray Cassick wrote:

                  Anything over 2 is simply a statistical experiment

                  Not exactly. It also shows great faith in the nanny-state. Her hospital bill will be in the hundreds of thousands (according Dr. Snyderman of NBC) and while it seems very likely she has insurance, when the insurance company pays out out like that, everybody's premiums go up. Her husband is a contractor in Iraq. He's coming home, apparently out of work, next month. What's the payout for aid to families with fourteen dependent children? Preemies that young often (not always) have physical and mental problems that mean they can never be fully functioning members of society. Although they were all able to breathe on their own a day after being born, two of them now are on ventolaters.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                  Oakman wrote:

                  , when the insurance company pays out out like that, everybody's premiums go up.

                  Redistribution of wealth. I knew Insurance was socialism disguised as capitalism.

                  This statement is false

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                  • R Ray Cassick

                    [ALMOST posted tot he Lounge :) ] OK, I thought perhaps it was an accident, but it turns out that the lady that just recently had octuplets ALREADY had 6 children and was on FERTILITY drugs to go another round... http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30/mother.octuplets/index.html?iref=mpstoryview[^] Why don't people look around them and see that there are already far too many of us here right now. If you already have 6 why the hell would you want even one more? I get the whole thing that having a kid is a great deal. I know that, and even though it was difficult at times, I loved watching my son grow up, and I would not have traded it for anything, but come on... Anything over 2 is simply a statistical experiment, like flipping a genetic coin. OK,

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                    any odds on what church these kids will go to? (Someone had to say it...)

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                    • B bulg

                      any odds on what church these kids will go to? (Someone had to say it...)

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                      bulg wrote:

                      ny odds on what church these kids will go to? (Someone had to say it...)

                      Really? Why exactly did you feel compelled to bring it up? A moment of atheistic bigotry perhaps? Suleman is an Arabic name - how do you know they wont be attending a mosque?

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                      • R Ray Cassick

                        [ALMOST posted tot he Lounge :) ] OK, I thought perhaps it was an accident, but it turns out that the lady that just recently had octuplets ALREADY had 6 children and was on FERTILITY drugs to go another round... http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30/mother.octuplets/index.html?iref=mpstoryview[^] Why don't people look around them and see that there are already far too many of us here right now. If you already have 6 why the hell would you want even one more? I get the whole thing that having a kid is a great deal. I know that, and even though it was difficult at times, I loved watching my son grow up, and I would not have traded it for anything, but come on... Anything over 2 is simply a statistical experiment, like flipping a genetic coin. OK,

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                        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                        To raise one kid properly is difficult, good luck to her for raising 14 of them! But again it's her life and she is free to do whatever she wants to.

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place? If she had 6 sprogs she should have kicked out on her arse and I'm surprised that any insurance company, given the circumstances, would have either paid for the treatment or the delivery. This is one fucking selfish family: they'll expect everyone else to support them.

                          me, me, me

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                          Mike Gaskey
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                          digital man wrote:

                          Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place?

                          holy crap! doesn't she know the state owns her body?

                          Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                          • R Ray Cassick

                            [ALMOST posted tot he Lounge :) ] OK, I thought perhaps it was an accident, but it turns out that the lady that just recently had octuplets ALREADY had 6 children and was on FERTILITY drugs to go another round... http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30/mother.octuplets/index.html?iref=mpstoryview[^] Why don't people look around them and see that there are already far too many of us here right now. If you already have 6 why the hell would you want even one more? I get the whole thing that having a kid is a great deal. I know that, and even though it was difficult at times, I loved watching my son grow up, and I would not have traded it for anything, but come on... Anything over 2 is simply a statistical experiment, like flipping a genetic coin. OK,

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                            Mike Gaskey
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                            Ray Cassick wrote:

                            I thought perhaps it was an accident

                            It sort of was. She did have 6 and wanted more but had no idea that all 8 would "take".

                            Ray Cassick wrote:

                            there are already far too many of us here right now

                            Really? There's a limit?

                            Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                              digital man wrote:

                              Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place?

                              holy crap! doesn't she know the state owns her body?

                              Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                              Oakman
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                              Mike Gaskey wrote:

                              holy crap! doesn't she know the state owns her body?

                              Holy crap is right. If you're correct, this is another toxic asset the taxpayers have gotten stuck with.

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place? If she had 6 sprogs she should have kicked out on her arse and I'm surprised that any insurance company, given the circumstances, would have either paid for the treatment or the delivery. This is one fucking selfish family: they'll expect everyone else to support them.

                                me, me, me

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                                Rob Graham
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                                digital man wrote:

                                Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place?

                                I think you may have been enjoying the "benefits" of State run health care for far too long. You have forgotten that in some parts of the world you can (and must) actually pay for these services without getting permission. Evidently, the lady can afford to have as large a family as she wishes. A remarkably bigoted remark on your part BTW.

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                                • M Mike Gaskey

                                  Ray Cassick wrote:

                                  I thought perhaps it was an accident

                                  It sort of was. She did have 6 and wanted more but had no idea that all 8 would "take".

                                  Ray Cassick wrote:

                                  there are already far too many of us here right now

                                  Really? There's a limit?

                                  Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                  Ray Cassick
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                                  Mike Gaskey wrote:

                                  She did have 6 and wanted more but had no idea that all 8 would "take".

                                  Then she had a choice and decided to keep all 8. Whats up with that? Never mind, I have a feeling that I know what was up and I don;t want to start do the long potential argument road there :)

                                  Mike Gaskey wrote:

                                  Really? There's a limit?

                                  A hard limit? No. But come on man, you can only fit so many people into a box before bad things happen.

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    To raise one kid properly is difficult, good luck to her for raising 14 of them! But again it's her life and she is free to do whatever she wants to.

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                    ...it's her life and she is free to do whatever she wants to.

                                    Yeah, but what quality of life can you expect as one of the children? I don't know about you, but I'd much rather be an only child than one of fourteen. At least my parents would be able to spend a decent abmount of time with me...

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                                    • R Ray Cassick

                                      [ALMOST posted tot he Lounge :) ] OK, I thought perhaps it was an accident, but it turns out that the lady that just recently had octuplets ALREADY had 6 children and was on FERTILITY drugs to go another round... http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30/mother.octuplets/index.html?iref=mpstoryview[^] Why don't people look around them and see that there are already far too many of us here right now. If you already have 6 why the hell would you want even one more? I get the whole thing that having a kid is a great deal. I know that, and even though it was difficult at times, I loved watching my son grow up, and I would not have traded it for anything, but come on... Anything over 2 is simply a statistical experiment, like flipping a genetic coin. OK,

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Yeah, I notice so many families in the US with four kids. Not so much here, but it still happens. Single mothers obviously have tons of them, only because it pays.

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                                      • M Miszou

                                        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                        ...it's her life and she is free to do whatever she wants to.

                                        Yeah, but what quality of life can you expect as one of the children? I don't know about you, but I'd much rather be an only child than one of fourteen. At least my parents would be able to spend a decent abmount of time with me...

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                                        Ray Cassick
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                                        I agree. I was an only child and while there were times when it was lonely, I think in the end it made me very self sufficient when it comes to finding and making friends as well as being able to find value in spending time alone. I never wanted a sibling at all. As the older one you always get asked to babysit and have a younger one getting into your stuff and as a younger one you typically find yourself as the third wheel. Of course this all depends on your family dynamic and the years between you and your sibling. [edit] To the people that say you NEED to have at least 2 so they can keep each other company... yeah, there's a great option... Have a second kid just because you need a baby sitter :) [/edit]

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                                        • R Rob Graham

                                          bulg wrote:

                                          ny odds on what church these kids will go to? (Someone had to say it...)

                                          Really? Why exactly did you feel compelled to bring it up? A moment of atheistic bigotry perhaps? Suleman is an Arabic name - how do you know they wont be attending a mosque?

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                                          See, that's why I did not bring it up in my post :)

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