Enough is enough...

Mike Gaskey

Ray Cassick wrote:

I thought perhaps it was an accident

It sort of was. She did have 6 and wanted more but had no idea that all 8 would "take".

Ray Cassick wrote:

there are already far too many of us here right now

Really? There's a limit?

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Oakman

Mike Gaskey wrote:

holy crap! doesn't she know the state owns her body?

Holy crap is right. If you're correct, this is another toxic asset the taxpayers have gotten stuck with.

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Rob Graham

digital man wrote:

Why was she allowed to have fertility treatment in the first place?

I think you may have been enjoying the "benefits" of State run health care for far too long. You have forgotten that in some parts of the world you can (and must) actually pay for these services without getting permission. Evidently, the lady can afford to have as large a family as she wishes. A remarkably bigoted remark on your part BTW.

Ray Cassick

Mike Gaskey wrote:

She did have 6 and wanted more but had no idea that all 8 would "take".

Then she had a choice and decided to keep all 8. Whats up with that? Never mind, I have a feeling that I know what was up and I don;t want to start do the long potential argument road there :)

Mike Gaskey wrote:

Really? There's a limit?

A hard limit? No. But come on man, you can only fit so many people into a box before bad things happen.

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Miszou

Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

...it's her life and she is free to do whatever she wants to.

Yeah, but what quality of life can you expect as one of the children? I don't know about you, but I'd much rather be an only child than one of fourteen. At least my parents would be able to spend a decent abmount of time with me...

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Christian Graus

Yeah, I notice so many families in the US with four kids. Not so much here, but it still happens. Single mothers obviously have tons of them, only because it pays.

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Ray Cassick

I agree. I was an only child and while there were times when it was lonely, I think in the end it made me very self sufficient when it comes to finding and making friends as well as being able to find value in spending time alone. I never wanted a sibling at all. As the older one you always get asked to babysit and have a younger one getting into your stuff and as a younger one you typically find yourself as the third wheel. Of course this all depends on your family dynamic and the years between you and your sibling. [edit] To the people that say you NEED to have at least 2 so they can keep each other company... yeah, there's a great option... Have a second kid just because you need a baby sitter :) [/edit]

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Ray Cassick

See, that's why I did not bring it up in my post :)

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Ray Cassick

I agree. Even though this is not something typically paid for my medical insurance riders, I still think that it should be restricted to those that NEED it, as in those that do not already have a fit child. The name 'treatment' implies that you are NEED of something that you cannot do on your own. That doe snot mean that you should have access to it just because you wore yours out :) Now, everyone get in line to tell em that the state has no right to mandate a woman's body and how I am standing in a slippery slope, and all that crap. To me fertility 'treatment' should be by prescription only just like birth control pills are. IN fact I am all for licensing the right to have a child in the first place. Available reproductive organs in my opinion are not enough to show responsible ability to raise a productive child.

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Brady Kelly

Ray Cassick wrote:

Available reproductive organs in my opinion are not enough to show responsible ability to raise a productive child.

:), but call me a Racist.

Brady Kelly

Ray Cassick wrote:

Have a second kid just because you need a baby sitter

Ray, you forgot the option: You need a babysitter 'cos you need one'

bulg

lol. (just for the record, I have no idea what religion they are, just that they probably ARE religious, since she carried through with all 8!)

Leslie Sanford

Oakman wrote:

Her husband is a contractor in Iraq. He's coming home, apparently out of work, next month. What's the payout for aid to families with fourteen dependent children?

Is she married? I just read this[^] on Yahoo. The grandmother says she's unmarried (assuming the article is accurate and the did actually interview the grandmother).