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  • C Clickok

    When you format your HD, what the size that you let for Windows and for data? I was letting 40Gb for Windows/Program Files and the remainder (120Gb) for data files (my documents/etc). I will purchase a 500Gb HD, then I was thinking about 100Gb for Windows and 400Gb for data. What's your settings?


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    On my primary machine, I have a 160gb SATA drive that has nothing but the boot partition on it. My development drive is a separate 500gb SATA drive, and I have a 1tb SATA drive with two equal-sized partitions (the E: drive contains nothing but the program files folders, and the F drive contains data. On my web server, it's a 80gb IDE drive for the boot drive, and a 320gb drive for the actual web sites. On my wife's machine, it's a 160gb SATA for booting, and a 500gb for data and installed applications and data. My laptop has a 200gb drive with just one partition. All of these are backed up on a regular basis onto my homemade NAS that has a 20gb laptop drive to boot from, and a 500gb and 1tb SATA drives for storing the backups. Common theme (in case you didn't notice) - wherever possible, I use a separate drive for booting. The boot drive only contains Windows and drivers. ALL installed programs and data are placed on a secondary drive.

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    • C Clickok

      When you format your HD, what the size that you let for Windows and for data? I was letting 40Gb for Windows/Program Files and the remainder (120Gb) for data files (my documents/etc). I will purchase a 500Gb HD, then I was thinking about 100Gb for Windows and 400Gb for data. What's your settings?


      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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      Sigh! This discussion comes up at least once a month here (not sure how you missed them all) and there are two camps, the old school people who can't seem to wrap their heads around modern technology and advocate all manner of partitioning and the modern enlightened people who would advise that it's just not necessary any more and only paints yourself into a corner down the road. If you want to separate your data make a subdirectory called "Data" and keep your data there. There is no useful reason to partition in this day and age. Look more toward your backup strategy than your partitioning strategy, backup is actually still very relevant even today. :)


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      • D Don Miguel

        I always keep a partition only for windows swap file. I don't know if in this days it still help so much, but in the past was a real system boost. And the two ones you already mentioned.

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        You avoid fragmentation, but you incur long seeks. Fragmentaiton can be avoided by creating a large-enough swap file once (set to "No swap file", reboot, set desired swap file size, reboot. done.). e.g. when you set apart a small partition at the "end" of the disk for the swap file, there will be frequent seeks from one end of the disk to the other. BAD.

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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          I used to believe the same thing, and then I read otherwise. While theoretically true, it seems that modern OS's do benefit from a swap on a different drive rather it be physical or illogical.

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          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

          and then I read otherwise

          Well, I read that I can earn up to $20K a month working two hours a day from home! Performance is so subjective I accept only these things: (1) Reproducable measurement (2) A serious technical explanation that does not run contrary to what I belive :rolleyes: (3) It says "Velociraptor" on the box

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            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            and then I read otherwise

            Well, I read that I can earn up to $20K a month working two hours a day from home! Performance is so subjective I accept only these things: (1) Reproducable measurement (2) A serious technical explanation that does not run contrary to what I belive :rolleyes: (3) It says "Velociraptor" on the box

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            I agree, in general. However, when I hear or read something like this I ask myself what is the cost of implementing. If it is trivial and presents a low risk I err on the side of the statement. If it goes against common-sense, requires an effort, and presents a risk then I just stay with the status quo. Of course any person here who has written an operating system and hd driver would know immediately. ( I haven't) I wonder if people like that post on CP?

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            • M Member 96

              Sigh! This discussion comes up at least once a month here (not sure how you missed them all) and there are two camps, the old school people who can't seem to wrap their heads around modern technology and advocate all manner of partitioning and the modern enlightened people who would advise that it's just not necessary any more and only paints yourself into a corner down the road. If you want to separate your data make a subdirectory called "Data" and keep your data there. There is no useful reason to partition in this day and age. Look more toward your backup strategy than your partitioning strategy, backup is actually still very relevant even today. :)


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              John C wrote:

              There is no useful reason to partition in this day and age.

              OS usually requires a full disk backup, Data just an XCOPY. OS backup rarely runs in the background, Data backup easily can. Switching a "Data" disk is easier than switching a OS disk. Shadow copies make much more sense for data than for OS and applications. Yes, all solvable problems. But I'd rather not run into them in the first place :)

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              • C Clickok

                Do you know some nLite-like program where I can change Program Files folder location after installation?


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                I believe you can just change the ProgramFilesDir with regedit at the following location: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion

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                  John C wrote:

                  There is no useful reason to partition in this day and age.

                  OS usually requires a full disk backup, Data just an XCOPY. OS backup rarely runs in the background, Data backup easily can. Switching a "Data" disk is easier than switching a OS disk. Shadow copies make much more sense for data than for OS and applications. Yes, all solvable problems. But I'd rather not run into them in the first place :)

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                  John M Drescher
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                  And then there is fragmentation. Partitions with thousands of small files that change often tend to be highly fragmented. Keeping the OS and data separate will prevent my code from fragmenting my OS updates.

                  John

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                  • C Clickok

                    When you format your HD, what the size that you let for Windows and for data? I was letting 40Gb for Windows/Program Files and the remainder (120Gb) for data files (my documents/etc). I will purchase a 500Gb HD, then I was thinking about 100Gb for Windows and 400Gb for data. What's your settings?


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                    • C Clickok

                      When you format your HD, what the size that you let for Windows and for data? I was letting 40Gb for Windows/Program Files and the remainder (120Gb) for data files (my documents/etc). I will purchase a 500Gb HD, then I was thinking about 100Gb for Windows and 400Gb for data. What's your settings?


                      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                      Clickok wrote:

                      What's your settings?

                      I just create one partition.

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                      • C Clickok

                        When you format your HD, what the size that you let for Windows and for data? I was letting 40Gb for Windows/Program Files and the remainder (120Gb) for data files (my documents/etc). I will purchase a 500Gb HD, then I was thinking about 100Gb for Windows and 400Gb for data. What's your settings?


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                        Tomz_KV
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                        for a developer machine, 40G is a little tight.

                        TOMZ_KV

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                        • C Clickok

                          When you format your HD, what the size that you let for Windows and for data? I was letting 40Gb for Windows/Program Files and the remainder (120Gb) for data files (my documents/etc). I will purchase a 500Gb HD, then I was thinking about 100Gb for Windows and 400Gb for data. What's your settings?


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                          Roger Wright
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                          It doesn't matter. Eventually Windows will want all of it.

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