The umpteenth rant against article's univoters

realJSOP

To give you an idea of how old those votes are, there are no "My Vote of 1" messages. The Univoter (and 41 other people, out of 59 voters) voted that article a 1. Maybe they didn't see the "Beginner" tag. IMHO, the technique described in the article - while admittedly being another way to do it - is a poor one because data in a given dialog should be private to that dialog, and should be *retrieved* by the parent, versus being set by the child.

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realJSOP

Gary Kirkham wrote:

I think that if you have something to say, then you should have the courage to put your name to it. If a person doesn't feel comfortable doing that, then he should keep silent.

Word.

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Nish Nishant

I started a thread in the Suggestions forum after reading your post : Un-ratable articles - a potential option?[^]

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Nish Nishant

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

IMHO, the technique described in the article - while admittedly being another way to do it - is a poor one because data in a given dialog should be private to that dialog, and should be *retrieved* by the parent, versus being set by the child.

John, that's how the article does it. The parent pops up the child, retrieves some data via Get-calls, and then sets its own data. The child has no access to the parent's data at all.

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CPallini

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

Maybe they didn't see the "Beginner" tag.

Quite careless people... :rolleyes: (people shouldn't be careless when voting, I think).

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

IMHO, the technique described in the article - while admittedly being another way to do it - is a poor one because data in a given dialog should be private to that dialog, and should be *retrieved* by the parent, versus being set by the child.

I don't get you here, I see the parent dialog actually retrieving data from the child one (in any case, INHO, the article is far better than many others having the same, or better, score). :)

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modified on Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:20 AM

CPallini

Thank you so much for doing it (even if I don't believe it would be a good solution, but it is just my personal point of view, actually I don't see nay good solution at the moment...). I was tempted to post my rant in that forum (but not sure it was the right place, though). :)

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Nish Nishant · modified on Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:20 AM

CPallini wrote:

I don't get you here, I see the parent dialog actually retrieving data from the child one

Yeah, John seems to have misinterpreted the core technique in the article. Which might be an indicator that the artcle is not well-explained. While that doesn't justify the several dozen 1 votes it got, it is possibly one reason for the overall low rating.

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CPallini

Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

John seems to have misinterpreted the core technique in the article. Which might be an indicator that the artcle is not well-explained.

False, since John is not part of the article's intended audience :-D.

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Nish Nishant

CPallini wrote:

False, since John is not part of the article's intended audience

Yeah but John doesn't know that.

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MrPlankton

Gary Kirkham wrote:

courage to put your name to it.

Then let's not hear the recurrent bitching about 1's in articles. If you tell people about your bowl movements, have jotd in the soap box that have racial characteristics don't be surprised if some take that baggage with them to the article review page.

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Oakman

Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

John seems to have misinterpreted the core technique in the article

But he put his name to it, that's all that counts.

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Ed Gadziemski

The parent-child article is written in a light tone with a humorous twist. Perhaps some people don't like or understand that technique. Overall, it feels like the article is written by a self-anointed code god talking down to the lowly peasants.

CPallini

Ed Gadziemski wrote:

The parent-child article is written in a light tone with a humorous twist. Perhaps some people don't like or understand that technique. Overall, it feels like the article is written by a self-anointed code god talking down to the lowly peasants.

Does it justify all the ones? :)

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Ed Gadziemski

CPallini wrote:

Does it justify all the ones?

Not for me, I would probably give the article a 2 or 3, but I can understand how some people might be offended.

CPallini

Ed Gadziemski wrote:

Not for me, I would probably give the article a 2 or 3

You're too generous, man... :rolleyes: Well, while I find myself toxcct having a self-confidence that might be seen as arrogance, this feeling doesn't prevent me from appreciating his technical contributions, and I keep believing the article is good for the intended audience.

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realJSOP

I coulda sworn he was instantiating the child with references in the constructor. I'm not interested enough to go back and look again, so I'll take your word for it.

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realJSOP

Exactly what has that got to do with using your real name as a user ID? If you use "ImStupid" as your user ID, then all of your articles will be listed under "ImStupid". When people vote articles based on hurt feelings obtained in the forums, they're just cheating everyone else on the site. Example - Ilion posted an article that helped me with a problem, so I voted a 5 on it. He continues to be a dick here in the soapbox, but that has nothing to do with coding.

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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

Jorgen Sigvardsson

It's not that big of a surprise. Toxcct has the bad habit of insulting people every now and then. It's possible that their article judgement is biased by their dislike for him.

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CPallini

Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

It's possible that their article judgement is biased by their dislike for him.

The above should be avoided, if possible. Otherwise article ratings would be just indicators of the author popolarity among CP community. I believe that article rating should only be related to the article quality. :)

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

I agree. I just wanted to offer a possible explanation. Toxcct can be very rude sometimes, borderline crazy if you ask me, and that will upset some people. Humans, as you know, are not always cool headed.

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