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How the F### have we got to this state of affairs?

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  • S soap brain

    See, this is why I don't care about the world any more.

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    Ilion
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    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

    See, this is why I don't care about the world any more.

    That's only half your problem. The other side of the coin is that you *hate* (and imagine yourself superior to) anyone who does care about the world. The coin as a whole: you care about attacking those who are not nihilists and who oppose nihilism. So you fail even at being a nihilist. What a pathetic thing you are.

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      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

      See, this is why I don't care about the world any more.

      That's only half your problem. The other side of the coin is that you *hate* (and imagine yourself superior to) anyone who does care about the world. The coin as a whole: you care about attacking those who are not nihilists and who oppose nihilism. So you fail even at being a nihilist. What a pathetic thing you are.

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      soap brain
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      Ilíon wrote:

      That's only half your problem. The other side of the coin is that you *hate* (and imagine yourself superior to) anyone who does care about the world.

      No way. I admire people who dedicate their lives to helping other people. I used to talk about how I would make my mark on the world, make it a better place, but now I know that I can't, and that it doesn't want me to. But, for some reason it still bothers me when bad things happen.

      Ilíon wrote:

      The coin as a whole: you care about attacking those who are not nihilists and who oppose nihilism. So you fail even at being a nihilist. What a pathetic thing you are.

      I never try and break people's hearts.

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      • D Dalek Dave

        Qatada[^] given compensation for human rights abusers. He is fighting against being sent to Jordan because he is a bit scared, and is given compensation because we locked him up for a bit! This bastard wants to kill and maim and now this happens? What of others Human Rights? I think we should ditch this HR bullshit and just execute the fucker, publicly, and drench him in petrol and burn him. As a warning to the others!

        ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        This bastard wants to kill and maim and now this happens?

        Dalek Dave wrote:

        drench him in petrol and burn him.

        I think you two would get on well. So don't you think there should be any sort of compensation for those wrongly imprisioned?

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        • N NielsRak

          How? Mostly by Labour writing spectacularly shoddy anti-terrorism legislation. "Judges said the British government had breached three articles of the European Convention on Human Rights, including the right to liberty, the right for lawfulness of detention to be decided by a court and the right to compensation for unlawful detention. " The compensation is not for being 'locked...up for a bit', but being locked up without due process, without enough evidence presented to show detention was justified. Which is a rather important right, no? Habeas corpus, preventing police states since 1215... There's plenty of HR bullsh*t around, but this is not one of those cases, sorry.

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          Actually there is supposedly much evidence against him, but unfortunately the British Government do not wish to try him as it would expose various techniques and surveillance employed by the Intelligence Angencies, and they wish to keep that secret. I say put him in a plane to Jordan today.

          ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Actually there is supposedly much evidence against him, but unfortunately the British Government do not wish to try him as it would expose various techniques and surveillance employed by the Intelligence Angencies, and they wish to keep that secret. I say put him in a plane to Jordan today.

            ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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            NielsRak
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            Hi Dave, never said there wasn't evidence. For all I know the government have photos of him boiling and eating babies and using kittens for live target practice, wouldn't surprise me much. But evidence not presented is not evidence at all, it's rumour. You don't want a government able to convict based on rumour, you really don't. Not even (or perhaps especially not) just to get rid of a scumbag like this. Niels.

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            • B Baconbutty

              Send him to space yes. Make his orbit opposed to all other satellites so that, given time, he will be hit by one of the bits of debris from the collision the other day.

              My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"

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              BoneSoft
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              Nah, give him the suit. Just put him in a low enough orbit that he reenters before he runs out of air.


              Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                Nah, give him the suit. Just put him in a low enough orbit that he reenters before he runs out of air.


                Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                Baconbutty
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                Wow it's getting a bit hot in he...........phut!

                My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  Qatada[^] given compensation for human rights abusers. He is fighting against being sent to Jordan because he is a bit scared, and is given compensation because we locked him up for a bit! This bastard wants to kill and maim and now this happens? What of others Human Rights? I think we should ditch this HR bullshit and just execute the fucker, publicly, and drench him in petrol and burn him. As a warning to the others!

                  ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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                  MrPlankton
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                  For the same reason the UK went from the most powerful nation on the planet... to where it is now.

                  MrPlankton
                  The Second Amendment, the Reset Button on the Constitution

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                  • B BoneSoft

                    Nah, give him the suit. Just put him in a low enough orbit that he reenters before he runs out of air.


                    Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                    BoneSoft wrote:

                    Just put him in a low enough orbit that he reenters before he runs out of air.

                    "Look, Mommy, a shooting star!!!" "Make a wish, dear, before it fades out."

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                      NielsRak wrote:

                      The compensation is not for being 'locked...up for a bit', but being locked up without due process, without enough evidence presented to show detention was justified. Which is a rather important right, no? Habeas corpus, preventing police states since 1215... There's plenty of HR bullsh*t around, but this is not one of those cases, sorry.

                      The voice of reason. I can see you are new around here. :)

                      John Carson

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                      John Carson wrote:

                      I can see you are new around here.

                      John, I'm sure you'll show him the ropes. ;)

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Qatada[^] given compensation for human rights abusers. He is fighting against being sent to Jordan because he is a bit scared, and is given compensation because we locked him up for a bit! This bastard wants to kill and maim and now this happens? What of others Human Rights? I think we should ditch this HR bullshit and just execute the fucker, publicly, and drench him in petrol and burn him. As a warning to the others!

                        ------------------------------------ "Your manuscript is both good and original. But the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good." Dr Samuel Johnson

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                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                        While in principle I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said, executing him in this way would make a "martyr" out of him to others like him. Sending him to Jordan would be the right thing to do because he will be judged. Also, HR is not the local police's forte.

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