Suspended for fowarding email joke [modified]
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It sounds a bit harsh but then again we didn't get to see the content of the joke, just because someone who forwarded it is on record as saying it was only a bit of fun doesn't mean that it was necessarily as innocuous as the forwarder would have us believe. I am very careful about what I use my company email address for, the company provide it for me to do the company's business and the company's name is attached to it, the content therefore reflects on the company. For once in my life I think BT are probably doing the right thing here. They have to look after their employees many of whom may be Irish and some of those may take offence at the joke; they also have to maintain their brand and not allow their company's name to be attached to content that could be regarded as prejudiced. Russell
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It sounds a bit harsh but then again we didn't get to see the content of the joke, just because someone who forwarded it is on record as saying it was only a bit of fun doesn't mean that it was necessarily as innocuous as the forwarder would have us believe. I am very careful about what I use my company email address for, the company provide it for me to do the company's business and the company's name is attached to it, the content therefore reflects on the company. For once in my life I think BT are probably doing the right thing here. They have to look after their employees many of whom may be Irish and some of those may take offence at the joke; they also have to maintain their brand and not allow their company's name to be attached to content that could be regarded as prejudiced. Russell
Actually, the whole joke was posted on that link. You may have ignored it, as I did at first, because it almost looks like an add. I know what you mean though. It's not a good idea to put anything even somewhat offensive out there like that. You take a risk emailing a joke like that. I just think it's harsh to jump right to suspension. Most people would need just a reminder about policy and a threat of future suspension to stop behaviour like that.
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Actually, the whole joke was posted on that link. You may have ignored it, as I did at first, because it almost looks like an add. I know what you mean though. It's not a good idea to put anything even somewhat offensive out there like that. You take a risk emailing a joke like that. I just think it's harsh to jump right to suspension. Most people would need just a reminder about policy and a threat of future suspension to stop behaviour like that.
You're right, my eyes just moved on past it, just shows how well advertisers have us trained these days. I guess the most notable thing about the joke is that it's not even vaguely funny. Not sure that it's worth suspending someone over but I guess if you need to reduce headcount and someone's broken the rules it's pretty convenient.
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I would suspend any person forwarding emails, jokes, or other items that are not work related. People show no common sense when it comes to computers. Look at some of the tacky emails you get from outlook users who think a pink background with cursive font is somehow professional.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I would suspend any person forwarding emails, jokes, or other items that are not work related.
You must be a joy to work for. :rolleyes:
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I would suspend any person forwarding emails, jokes, or other items that are not work related.
You must be a joy to work for. :rolleyes:
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I would suspend any person forwarding emails, jokes, or other items that are not work related.
You must be a joy to work for. :rolleyes:
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I'd be an absolute nightmare to work for. I would be a total slave driver and demand more from my staff than I could give myself. I would only give good reviews to people that did great work and I would reprimand those that gave mediocre work. If you are on my team, you will produce or you will be replaced. If you want to be hugged and held and told how special you are go work for someone else.
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The article reprinted the "joke" and the staff should have been fired since it wasn't the least bit funny. It wasn't even offensive.
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I would suspend any person forwarding emails, jokes, or other items that are not work related. People show no common sense when it comes to computers. Look at some of the tacky emails you get from outlook users who think a pink background with cursive font is somehow professional.
Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Hear hear!
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- Don't use company email for personal uses, ever. 1) That wasn't a very good joke. 2) There was no reason for the men to be of any particular race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.; it would be just as funny with any other group or none. A joke book I have uses a ficticious nationality "Funistradan" to demonstrate this. But, yes, they have to be men. 3) I see no reason to fire anyone over it. 4) On my last job I eventually told Outlook to move anything sent to "all staff" to the spam folder and that took care of it.
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I'd be an absolute nightmare to work for. I would be a total slave driver and demand more from my staff than I could give myself. I would only give good reviews to people that did great work and I would reprimand those that gave mediocre work. If you are on my team, you will produce or you will be replaced. If you want to be hugged and held and told how special you are go work for someone else.
Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I would only give good reviews to people that did great work and I would reprimand those that gave mediocre work. If you are on my team, you will produce or you will be replaced.
So if I was the top performer, did excelent work and produced more than others, would I get susspended for forwarding funny e-mails, telling jokes or laughing at work?
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I would only give good reviews to people that did great work and I would reprimand those that gave mediocre work. If you are on my team, you will produce or you will be replaced.
So if I was the top performer, did excelent work and produced more than others, would I get susspended for forwarding funny e-mails, telling jokes or laughing at work?
In an office where their are top performers telling jokes and personal use of computers does not often come up as an issue. Top performers know when it is ok and can use something called common sense to evaluate their usage. I don't think a top performer would ever forward an email joke to the staff but yes I would reprimand them the same for such tactless behavior. Are you telling a series of loud jokes in a cube farm keeping everyone from working or are you telling the joke at the water cooler? Is the joke being told to the entire team to blow off some steam or is the joke just away to kill Friday afternoon because no one wants to work. For every scenario you say I would be a buzz kill I think you will find a sharp difference between top performers and average performers who just so happen to be placed in a below average peer group. Absolutely, humor is appropriate in the work place. A top performer, however, always knows that work comes first.
Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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it's a punning plot against the linguistically challenged. Bungee jump. Parachute. Hang gliding.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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Not I thankfully. A friend of mine got a grilling from their work for forwarding a joke (they received at work on the their work email) to their home address so they could read it later. Daft thing is they hadn't even read it and so didn't realise the content until they got home. Too late, the HR PC machine was in action and the mind police had to make sure everyone was talking the PC line. My friend assumed that because they received it on their work email it must be okay to forward on. For years they thought I was a miserable git for not sending on emails etc (now they know why). In these days where job security isn't the top agenda for HR departments, don't give them ammo to downsize/relocate/salary-adjust you. Two email addys, one for work, one for home, it's not hard folks.
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it's a punning plot against the linguistically challenged. Bungee jump. Parachute. Hang gliding.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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No I never have. Someone at BT needs to lighten up.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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Kschuler wrote:
Has anyone ever been disciplined at work for improper emailing?
Not disciplined, but talked at over the phone.
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In an office where their are top performers telling jokes and personal use of computers does not often come up as an issue. Top performers know when it is ok and can use something called common sense to evaluate their usage. I don't think a top performer would ever forward an email joke to the staff but yes I would reprimand them the same for such tactless behavior. Are you telling a series of loud jokes in a cube farm keeping everyone from working or are you telling the joke at the water cooler? Is the joke being told to the entire team to blow off some steam or is the joke just away to kill Friday afternoon because no one wants to work. For every scenario you say I would be a buzz kill I think you will find a sharp difference between top performers and average performers who just so happen to be placed in a below average peer group. Absolutely, humor is appropriate in the work place. A top performer, however, always knows that work comes first.
Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
I have a feeling the best performer's you'll ever get are really only average. I am a top performer and if you stop me from being who I am, I am no longer a top perfomer. I know that if I feel opressed, i.e. can't e-mail jokes, can't laugh, can't have fun, my performance goes down really quick. I've been on the opressive programs and the top performers get away from them as quickly as they can, leaving the average performers. This makes the higher average performers the Top performers. My 2 cents
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I have a feeling the best performer's you'll ever get are really only average. I am a top performer and if you stop me from being who I am, I am no longer a top perfomer. I know that if I feel opressed, i.e. can't e-mail jokes, can't laugh, can't have fun, my performance goes down really quick. I've been on the opressive programs and the top performers get away from them as quickly as they can, leaving the average performers. This makes the higher average performers the Top performers. My 2 cents
I think what I am not elaborating is there is a slight difference in the treatment of top performers and the rest. The problem is you have to make the rules for the masses and then hypocritically enforce them differently to those to whom they do not apply. Of course, I would still reprimand anyone for an email forward. Those are just plan retarded.
Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
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I would suspend any person forwarding emails, jokes, or other items that are not work related. People show no common sense when it comes to computers. Look at some of the tacky emails you get from outlook users who think a pink background with cursive font is somehow professional.
Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Hmmmm... maybe time to tweak the css on my website then :laugh:
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