Has anyone here ever reflect on why we live...
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Hel wrote: The aging process accelerates when the soul begins to wrinkle Very well put - may I quote you?:-D
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and what we should do to comfort us? Recently i feel very sad and sometime even think life is meaningless(don't take me wrong,I will not commit suicide,I think that is silly doing). I want some consulting from kind you. this is my signature for forums quoted from shog*9: I can't help but feel, somewhere deep within that withered, bitter, scheming person, there is a small child, frightened, looking a way out.
Someone just send me this Email. Thought I would pass it on. An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. This same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person,too." The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed." -author unknown Man follows the way of earth. Earth follows the way of heaven. Heaven follows the way of Tao. Tao follows what is natural.
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Life has moments like that. Especially when the only life you are touching is your own. But life takes on a different, more rich perspective when you involve yourself in your community, and see the very real effects that your efforts have on other lives. The greatest moments of my life are those when I see a child laugh, because I was funny; when an elderly person shakes my hand and thanks me for the gift of a visit at Christmastime; when I visit a school, as I did this morning, to talk about the great value of learning, and half the kids in class recognize me and call me by name because some event I helped put on affected their lives in a positive way. I know that my life isn't meaningless, when old friends from far away still contact me after ten years' absence to chat and ask my advice; when a letter arrives from a woman who rejected me twenty years ago asking me to reconsider her as a wife, after paying a private investigator for two years to locate me. I know that my existence has meaning, when friends ask me to run for public office, because they don't trust anyone else to safegaurd their interests; when they ask me to spend time with their children, because they want them to learn from me, and trust me to instruct their bairn. Life without these things could, indeed, feel meaningless. But by involving myself in the lives of others and giving their challenges as much attention as those I face, I have garnered these and many more affirmations of the value of the life I live. Take heart, Zhoujun, and step outside of yourself a bit and into the lives of others - give, and you shall receive, as it says in our bible. It's true, and it requires no committment to any religious philosophy to make it work. In the words of Tom Lehrer, a satirical songwriter who nonetheless manages to strike a chord of truth now and then, "Life is like a sewer - what you get out of it depends upon what you put into it."
Thanks,Roger. What you said is very meaningful for me. I will save it and read it often till i can "step outside of myself a bit and into the lives of others"(as you said). this is my signature for forums quoted from shog*9: I can't help but feel, somewhere deep within that withered, bitter, scheming person, there is a small child, frightened, looking a way out.
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Someone just send me this Email. Thought I would pass it on. An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. This same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person,too." The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed." -author unknown Man follows the way of earth. Earth follows the way of heaven. Heaven follows the way of Tao. Tao follows what is natural.
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Someone just send me this Email. Thought I would pass it on. An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. This same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person,too." The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed." -author unknown Man follows the way of earth. Earth follows the way of heaven. Heaven follows the way of Tao. Tao follows what is natural.
Hel wrote: Man follows the way of earth. Earth follows the way of heaven. Heaven follows the way of Tao. Tao follows what is natural. What is natural? I mean, which wolf? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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Hel wrote: Man follows the way of earth. Earth follows the way of heaven. Heaven follows the way of Tao. Tao follows what is natural. What is natural? I mean, which wolf? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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Too bad i couldn't offer much cos i sometimes also feel the same as you do, especially when i am out of job now... Perhaps the world might be a better place if humans do not have hatred, sorrow, and those negative emotions which in my opinion, cause a lot of suffering... (and not forgetting money, i think it is one of the roots of evil) Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
Thanks,Chen. If I can select,I think i will hope humans do not have "sorrow",because it is the strongest feeling that can not be got rid of. this is my signature for forums quoted from shog*9: I can't help but feel, somewhere deep within that withered, bitter, scheming person, there is a small child, frightened, looking a way out.
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and what we should do to comfort us? Recently i feel very sad and sometime even think life is meaningless(don't take me wrong,I will not commit suicide,I think that is silly doing). I want some consulting from kind you. this is my signature for forums quoted from shog*9: I can't help but feel, somewhere deep within that withered, bitter, scheming person, there is a small child, frightened, looking a way out.
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Both:omg: Man follows the way of earth. Earth follows the way of heaven. Heaven follows the way of Tao. Tao follows what is natural.
In the real Tao spirit, you should reply more or less like this: "Both wolves are natural and both are not" ;) Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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Yeah, but what if answer is negative? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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In the real Tao spirit, you should reply more or less like this: "Both wolves are natural and both are not" ;) Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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Tomasz Sowinski wrote: real Tao spirit but is Tao real? Man follows the way of earth. Earth follows the way of heaven. Heaven follows the way of Tao. Tao follows what is natural.
Hel wrote: but is Tao real? It is and it is not ;) Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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Hel wrote: but is Tao real? It is and it is not ;) Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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and what we should do to comfort us? Recently i feel very sad and sometime even think life is meaningless(don't take me wrong,I will not commit suicide,I think that is silly doing). I want some consulting from kind you. this is my signature for forums quoted from shog*9: I can't help but feel, somewhere deep within that withered, bitter, scheming person, there is a small child, frightened, looking a way out.
zhoujun wrote: why we live... The answer may change following the point of view. For example, regarding the human species, the only duty is to reproduce and raise children, to ensure the continuity. The others meaning of lifes are personnal, and may vary from one person to another, according to his/her cultural uses, faith(s), personnal experiences... I don't know if the question "why" is really important. IMHO, the "how" should rather get our attention. Carpe Diem... :) We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. Antoine de Saint Exupéry (1900-1944)
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and what we should do to comfort us? Recently i feel very sad and sometime even think life is meaningless(don't take me wrong,I will not commit suicide,I think that is silly doing). I want some consulting from kind you. this is my signature for forums quoted from shog*9: I can't help but feel, somewhere deep within that withered, bitter, scheming person, there is a small child, frightened, looking a way out.
This is what "religion" is for. Personally, mainstream religion never helped me with these issues. When my son was ready for kindergarten, I ended up putting him into a Waldorf school. Why? Because when I walked into that kindergarten, the small frightened child in me suddenly felt safe, beyond any feeling of safety I've ever experienced. If there's a Waldorf school near you, ask them when they have an open house and check out the kindergarten (and the grade classes). The experience I had is shared with almost everyone I have ever talked to that stepped into a Waldorf kindergarten. Waldorf education was created by a Dr. Rudolf Steiner, who, among other things, has also written numerous books on the subject of "Anthroposophy", the spiritual science of man. Since this is the basis of the spiritual insights that lead to this particular teaching style (the philosophy is itself NOT taught to children--the curriculum teaches all religions of the world in much better depth than any public school), I took it upon myself to learn more about Anthroposophy and the beliefs of Dr. Steiner. I found that all those painful questions that no one could answer was finally answered for me. My personal experience was rather profound. I feel that everyone knows, deep inside themselves, when they encounter "truth". For me, Anthroposophy is truth. For you, it might be different. The point is, if I may be so bold, you need to seek what you feel is "truth" in answering those questions. I don't think that psychology, science, etc., can't answer these questions. Good luck, Marc webmaster@knowledgeautomation.com
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and what we should do to comfort us? Recently i feel very sad and sometime even think life is meaningless(don't take me wrong,I will not commit suicide,I think that is silly doing). I want some consulting from kind you. this is my signature for forums quoted from shog*9: I can't help but feel, somewhere deep within that withered, bitter, scheming person, there is a small child, frightened, looking a way out.
Without change there remains part of us which sleeps and seldom wakens... Asim Hussain e: asim@jawache.net w: www.jawache.net
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Someone just send me this Email. Thought I would pass it on. An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. This same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person,too." The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed." -author unknown Man follows the way of earth. Earth follows the way of heaven. Heaven follows the way of Tao. Tao follows what is natural.
:cool: :rose: What else is there to say ? Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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This is what "religion" is for. Personally, mainstream religion never helped me with these issues. When my son was ready for kindergarten, I ended up putting him into a Waldorf school. Why? Because when I walked into that kindergarten, the small frightened child in me suddenly felt safe, beyond any feeling of safety I've ever experienced. If there's a Waldorf school near you, ask them when they have an open house and check out the kindergarten (and the grade classes). The experience I had is shared with almost everyone I have ever talked to that stepped into a Waldorf kindergarten. Waldorf education was created by a Dr. Rudolf Steiner, who, among other things, has also written numerous books on the subject of "Anthroposophy", the spiritual science of man. Since this is the basis of the spiritual insights that lead to this particular teaching style (the philosophy is itself NOT taught to children--the curriculum teaches all religions of the world in much better depth than any public school), I took it upon myself to learn more about Anthroposophy and the beliefs of Dr. Steiner. I found that all those painful questions that no one could answer was finally answered for me. My personal experience was rather profound. I feel that everyone knows, deep inside themselves, when they encounter "truth". For me, Anthroposophy is truth. For you, it might be different. The point is, if I may be so bold, you need to seek what you feel is "truth" in answering those questions. I don't think that psychology, science, etc., can't answer these questions. Good luck, Marc webmaster@knowledgeautomation.com
Its nice to see something that is making the world a better place for everyone :rose: Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Weiye Chen wrote: might be a better place if humans do not have hatred, sorrow, and those negative emotions which in my opinion Without those negative emotions we'd all go nuts. We have to feel fear, anger, sorrow. They are part of what makes us human, what seperates us from the rest of the animals. As with all things in nature, you need to have the right balance of postitive and negative emotions. If you can find that balance then you and the people around you will enjoy life more. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
Not wishing to get drawn off topic, fear, anger and sorrow can all be observed elsewhere in the animal kingdom. As to the balance though - I agree totally. The problem is those little bastards who keep nicking the weights from the positive side all the time...
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
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and what we should do to comfort us? Recently i feel very sad and sometime even think life is meaningless(don't take me wrong,I will not commit suicide,I think that is silly doing). I want some consulting from kind you. this is my signature for forums quoted from shog*9: I can't help but feel, somewhere deep within that withered, bitter, scheming person, there is a small child, frightened, looking a way out.
When I feel low I take heart from all those around me who care, and think about what wonderful things may happen in the future. No matter how bad things have been at times (I've been closer to suicide than I care to think about), something special always happens sooner or later. Hold onto that thought, and be yourself. Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia Graesch