Do I need Vista as developer?
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OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:
I just started getting into the whole Azure world and found that you cannot install the SDKs on XP!!! Well you can if you alter the installer using the MSI SDK, but that is painful and there are no promises. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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People said the same thing about the win98 to win2k transition as well. I remember "You can have my DOS6.22 floppies when you pry them from my cold dead hands" as well. I'm sure it goes farther back but I'm not old enough to remember...
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
People said the same thing about the win98 to win2k transition as well. I remember "You can have my DOS6.22 floppies when you pry them from my cold dead hands" as well. I'm sure it goes farther back but I'm not old enough to remember...
I have always dragged my heels to upgrade the O/S too. Needed to rebuild both my home and DEV box at the office so I decided (since it's at SP1) to give Vista a try this time. So far no problems. Everything important seems to work ... all the development tools. About the only thing I had trouble with was an older game which I wasn't playing much any more. -CB :)
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OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:
My solution at work has been to run copies of Vista Enterprise x86 in virtual machines on a server. If and when it quits working, we simply refresh the VM image, although I created the template VM with developer tools only and no MS Office and it has been running reliably (!!!) for a month or two. I have had more issues with Windows Server 2008 x64 (on our servers) than with Vista Enterprise. If another person needs a developer VM, we use the template to create it. These are the only copies of Vista running in our organization. Everyone has XP for non-developer work, including me. Vista is officially unwelcome on user desktops. I develop using Vista because our servers run Windows Server 2008 and SQL Server 2008 and having a compatible IIS as well as better SQL 2008 compatibility on my VM saves me trouble.
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OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:
I had several programs that ran just fine under XP but failed under Vista. The failures were all security related. I fixed the issues and things have been fine since. Develop on any system you want to but test your programs on the Vista platform before GA release. Everyone will thank you. :cool:
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OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:
Go with Windows Server 2008. I upgraded from XP to 2008 and never looked back. Here's a useful link to adjust 2008 for normal workstation use: http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/[^]
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OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:
Yes. As a .NET developer, you should have a working copy of Vista somewhere. Preferably your development or test image. Whether you like Vista or not is basically irrelevant at some point you will need access to it. If you haven't already done so, download Microsoft VPC and build yourself some images. You're telling me that you can't install Vista on the machine you're using? Then stop wasting time and install XP. If you still want to work in Vista, install it onto a VPC image with just the tools you need and then you won't need to worry about it anymore.
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Go with Windows Server 2008. I upgraded from XP to 2008 and never looked back. Here's a useful link to adjust 2008 for normal workstation use: http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/[^]
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that's interesting... Tell me more about your experience with Windows Server 2008. Should i as "single .NET developer" really install it instead on Vista on my desktop???
My experience with Server 2008 was extremely positive. For starters, it took just 15 minutes to do a clean install. Setup did not have the drivers for my laptop's video and wireless network cards, but Error Reporting Center literally gave me the link to Intel's drivers download page, so I was up and running in another 15 minutes. Unlike in Vista, most services are turned off by default, so I started by adding features and roles using Server Manager (an excellent tool). For my development machine I chose these features: ".NET Framework 3.0", "Desktop Experience", and "Wireless LAN Service". Server 2008 is generally considered superior to Vista (just google it). You can use it on your development workstations without any sacrifices in usability.
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People said the same thing about the win98 to win2k transition as well. I remember "You can have my DOS6.22 floppies when you pry them from my cold dead hands" as well. I'm sure it goes farther back but I'm not old enough to remember...
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
I remember "You can have my DOS6.22 floppies when you pry them from my cold dead hands" as well. I'm sure it goes farther back but I'm not old enough to remember...
Yes, it does...the transition from DOS 3.x to DOS 4 and above involved losing some useful utilities (like DEBUG) plus a more expensive OS, so many refused to upgrade until Windows became ubiquitous.
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Computafreak wrote:
To keep all of those ASP.Net developers in a job
Since my department of my division of my company is busy getting business from customers who are outsourcing their processing to us, and we use ASP.NET, I'm not really worried about my employment for the next few years...unlike some in "more advanced" shops whose customer base is dying like the dodo. Don't get too cocky, 'Freak :)