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  • N Nish Nishant

    wout de zeeuw wrote:

    Can we organize some mud wrestling somewhere?

    Caaaaaaaaaaaat fighttttttttttttttttt! :-D

    Regards, Nish


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    Lost User
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    And that one was 13 minutes later than expected ;P

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      It's simple, don't get between me and mine. Other than that I'm a helpless ball of fluff, honest. :rolleyes:

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      FWIW, I loved the two months I spent in England. My only real regrets are not being able to meet any CPians and not being able to visit Cymru and Caledonia. I would have loved even more to visit Hibernia, but I didn't have any false hopes about that :sigh: (Well, there's one more regret, but I can't talk about it here... :-O )

      Cheers, Vıkram.

      Carpe Diem.

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        That response took ten minutes longer than I thought. ;P

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        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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        I didn't want to seem rude. Besides, if my wife were to see me post that, my head would be on a spike :suss:

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        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

          Having lived in Canada and having half of my family there, I consider Canada (Edmonton to be quite precise) my home and I would simply love to go back there. I could go on for hours on how beautiful my countries are (I'm weird that way :) ) I'd prefer Canada to any other nation, but my father has settled in Jordan and because of his state of health, I'd much rather somewhere a bit closer. It might be all in my head, I mean, its a flight trip either way. Also, its a candidate because my wife's family which is in abundance in Birmingham and Scotland, not to mention all the friends I made here :) Also, I have my own family to think about now, not to mention keeping my sharp edge when it comes to tech. Jordan is a great place to start but certainly not to grow and that's simply because the market is terribly small. Ultimately, what I'm looking for is a place where:

          1. A place that offers me a good environment to raise my child (and possible future children)
          2. A place that offers me a good wage or good returns on investment so that I can support my family
          3. A place that will let me live with the intellectual freedom that I seek off of the internet
          4. A place where I can with my own two hands build something or take part in building something that will mean something to the world

          Sadly, there's too much external pressure and too much internal in-fighting compounded by greed in the Middle East for that to happen. My primary candidates are Canada, USA, UK, Australia. I can speak French (it used to be more fluent) and I'd happily learn another language (besides Ostreylien if I go to Oz ;))

          Trollslayer wrote:

          By the way, one of my nieces could always wrap her parents around her little finger. I wonder if your sone has been on a distance learning course with her? Laugh

          I'm certain! I could be his personal genie :-D But I'll tell you that I love it :) His smile is worth the world to me :)

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          How about Quebec then? I work with a french guy and the running joke is about sending him there and watch him try to talk to the locals.

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          • N Nish Nishant

            Trollslayer wrote:

            F*** you.

            5.00/5 (6 votes) Wow, you've got to be the only CPian who can get six 5-votes for saying "Fuck you" in the Lounge :rolleyes:

            Regards, Nish


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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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            y'know, I didn't even notice that :doh:

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            • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

              That was my understanding as well. Having an abode and a job helps expedite the process of obtaining the visa. After 2 years, you'll get it 'no questions asked'.

              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

              There's also a Work Permit, but that's only if some company is giving you a job offer and offering to sponsor you. Getting a WP today will be a miracle, though, sorry.

              Too true!

              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

              Enjoy it while it lasts. Seriously.

              I think I'm going to have an awesome relationship with my kids :)

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              Vikram A Punathambekar
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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

              That was my understanding as well. Having an abode and a job helps expedite the process of obtaining the visa. After 2 years, you'll get it 'no questions asked'.

              One of us doesn't understand the other, and frankly, I'm not sure which one. :doh: My understanding: even somebody who's never been to the UK can get a Tier 1 visa without actually going there. They can use this to enter the UK and then search for jobs. Like I said, you may want to do more research. Oh, I started a whole new thread for you. C&H, one of my favourites. :)

              Cheers, Vıkram.

              Carpe Diem.

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              • L l a u r e n

                so if i was a guest in zimbabwe i should be praising that despot too should i? criticizing a country for flagrant abuses against humanity is the duty of all citizens of the world imho ... and instead of being patriotic about one piece of rock why not try being the same way about the whole planet and all who live on it? oh what? you can't cos there's no flag to wave? oh shame and where do you get off attacking me personally for an opinion about a country? look to your own before mouthing off about someone else in future X|

                "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                l a u r e n wrote:

                so if i was a guest in zimbabwe i should be praising that despot too should i?

                Don't be daft. From my experiences in Zimbabwe the people there are some of the friendliest on the planet. I wouldn't go there these days because of the political situation, but I still have fond memories of the hospitality I received there.

                l a u r e n wrote:

                criticizing a country for flagrant abuses against humanity is the duty of all citizens of the world imho

                Then in your opinion England is practicing "flagrant abuses against humanity"? I hadn't realized how far off the deep end you were.

                l a u r e n wrote:

                and instead of being patriotic about one piece of rock why not try being the same way about the whole planet and all who live on it?

                You don't have to be, but it is Elaine's prerogative if she chooses.

                l a u r e n wrote:

                and where do you get off attacking me personally for an opinion about a country?

                Don't get your panties in a bunch. I was commenting about something you wrote to me about your being tired of the US and the people there and couldn’t wait to leave. I thought it was hypocritical of you to carp about a place that gave you a work opportunity, but then you were leaving soon so good riddens.

                l a u r e n wrote:

                look to your own before mouthing off about someone else in future

                Piss off!

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                  I didn't want to seem rude. Besides, if my wife were to see me post that, my head would be on a spike :suss:

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                  wout de zeeuw
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                  At your service maestro. :cool:

                  Wout

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                  • L Lost User

                    How about Quebec then? I work with a french guy and the running joke is about sending him there and watch him try to talk to the locals.

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                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                    Quebec, especially Montreal, is brilliant. North Quebec, essentially empty.

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                      I've been to the US and it varies so much from one place to another, I don't think many Europeans realise that since most of what we see is on a film set. Oddly enough, I find german culture is much closer to british and with the new project we are working with a german partner company. The only down side is their humour can be dafter than ours :doh: Like anywhere else (inlcuding the UK), there are good and bad points.

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                      wout de zeeuw
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                      Germans don't have humor, they drink beer and eat bratwurst. Wheee, pissed off another nation!

                      Wout

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                      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                        That was my understanding as well. Having an abode and a job helps expedite the process of obtaining the visa. After 2 years, you'll get it 'no questions asked'.

                        One of us doesn't understand the other, and frankly, I'm not sure which one. :doh: My understanding: even somebody who's never been to the UK can get a Tier 1 visa without actually going there. They can use this to enter the UK and then search for jobs. Like I said, you may want to do more research. Oh, I started a whole new thread for you. C&H, one of my favourites. :)

                        Cheers, Vıkram.

                        Carpe Diem.

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                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                        Ah, no, that was not what was explained to me. You can apply for one and you can certainly go to the UK and look for a job and even get a job, but you will not be a permanent resident until two years later.

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                          I've been to the US and it varies so much from one place to another, I don't think many Europeans realise that since most of what we see is on a film set. Oddly enough, I find german culture is much closer to british and with the new project we are working with a german partner company. The only down side is their humour can be dafter than ours :doh: Like anywhere else (inlcuding the UK), there are good and bad points.

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                          JimmyRopes
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                          Trollslayer wrote:

                          I've been to the US and it varies so much from one place to another

                          It is a large place and various regions have their own subculture.

                          Trollslayer wrote:

                          I don't think many Europeans realise that since most of what we see is on a film set

                          Kind of like getting to know India from Bollywood movies. Most Europeans tend to go to the cities and that is not a fair representation of the US.

                          Trollslayer wrote:

                          Oddly enough, I find german culture is much closer to british and with the new project we are working with a german partner company.

                          You would probably find most northern European cultures familiar.

                          Trollslayer wrote:

                          Like anywhere else (inlcuding the UK), there are good and bad points.

                          I agree, no place is totally good or bad, just different from what you are accustom.

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                          • L l a u r e n

                            what exactly was well said about it?

                            "mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"

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                            JimmyRopes
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                            l a u r e n wrote:

                            what exactly was well said about it?

                            Elaine wrote:

                            F*** you.

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                            • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                              I didn't want to seem rude. Besides, if my wife were to see me post that, my head would be on a spike :suss:

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                              wout de zeeuw
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                              Hey wait a minute, you calling me rude?!?!?!?! :laugh:

                              Wout

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                                Ah, no, that was not what was explained to me. You can apply for one and you can certainly go to the UK and look for a job and even get a job, but you will not be a permanent resident until two years later.

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                                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                but you will not be a permanent resident until two years later

                                I'd imagine most countries' immigration laws are like that: you have to spend some time before you become a PR/citizen. Well, actually, yeah, with an HSMP, you'd have to show proof of income X GBP per year, and so on. If you fail to meet the requirements, even months or years later, you are likely to be sent back.

                                Cheers, Vıkram.

                                Carpe Diem.

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                                  At your service maestro. :cool:

                                  Wout

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                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                  Cheers :beer:

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                                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                    Quebec, especially Montreal, is brilliant. North Quebec, essentially empty.

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                                    Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                    Quebec is called the La Belle Province, isn't it? But I heard it's very difficult to live there if you don't know French. Our friend Zep said he (almost?) got thrown out of an apartment for speaking in English. :wtf: I could be totally wrong, of course. I have some distant relatives in Montreal. Last I heard, my granduncle was teaching at McGill.

                                    Cheers, Vıkram.

                                    Carpe Diem.

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                                      Having lived in Canada and having half of my family there, I consider Canada (Edmonton to be quite precise) my home and I would simply love to go back there. I could go on for hours on how beautiful my countries are (I'm weird that way :) ) I'd prefer Canada to any other nation, but my father has settled in Jordan and because of his state of health, I'd much rather somewhere a bit closer. It might be all in my head, I mean, its a flight trip either way. Also, its a candidate because my wife's family which is in abundance in Birmingham and Scotland, not to mention all the friends I made here :) Also, I have my own family to think about now, not to mention keeping my sharp edge when it comes to tech. Jordan is a great place to start but certainly not to grow and that's simply because the market is terribly small. Ultimately, what I'm looking for is a place where:

                                      1. A place that offers me a good environment to raise my child (and possible future children)
                                      2. A place that offers me a good wage or good returns on investment so that I can support my family
                                      3. A place that will let me live with the intellectual freedom that I seek off of the internet
                                      4. A place where I can with my own two hands build something or take part in building something that will mean something to the world

                                      Sadly, there's too much external pressure and too much internal in-fighting compounded by greed in the Middle East for that to happen. My primary candidates are Canada, USA, UK, Australia. I can speak French (it used to be more fluent) and I'd happily learn another language (besides Ostreylien if I go to Oz ;))

                                      Trollslayer wrote:

                                      By the way, one of my nieces could always wrap her parents around her little finger. I wonder if your sone has been on a distance learning course with her? Laugh

                                      I'm certain! I could be his personal genie :-D But I'll tell you that I love it :) His smile is worth the world to me :)

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                                      Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                      About your father's health, I suppose a plane ride from Canada isn't much worse than a plane ride from England. And Australia, I imagine, is pretty much as far as Canada is from Jordan.

                                      Cheers, Vıkram.

                                      Carpe Diem.

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                                        Quebec is called the La Belle Province, isn't it? But I heard it's very difficult to live there if you don't know French. Our friend Zep said he (almost?) got thrown out of an apartment for speaking in English. :wtf: I could be totally wrong, of course. I have some distant relatives in Montreal. Last I heard, my granduncle was teaching at McGill.

                                        Cheers, Vıkram.

                                        Carpe Diem.

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                        But I heard it's very difficult to live there if you don't know French.

                                        In my experience, that's quite true. When Smitha and I visited, we got lost and stopped at a gas station to get directions. No one there spoke English - so eventually we used gestures to explain we were lost and pointed to a brochure with a pic of old-town Quebec that we had, and then they gave us detailed left-right-straight directions. At restaurants, they did speak English pretty well though - so we didn't have much of a problem.

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                        • W wout de zeeuw

                                          Hey wait a minute, you calling me rude?!?!?!?! :laugh:

                                          Wout

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                                          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                          :laugh: I'm not answering that one, but in a previous life time, I would have been the first one to have said what you have said! :-D

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