Vista Hibernate Mode
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I can't really think of a reason to wake the computer up and then not log on
Here's a reason: I come home, turn on the computer, check the snail mail, feed the cat, do other things, and then I want to sit down at the computer and log in. It should be waiting for me like a good servant. It shouldn't be needing me to babysit the boot process so that I can catch it before it auto-hibernates.
I figured you had a good reason. But keep in mind, like everything else MS does, if it doesn't match the workflow of the programmer who wrote it you can't fix it.
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Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
I've never had much luck with hibernate in any os, however I now do all my work in VMWare virtual machines and the suspend mode works perfectly and is super slick. I rarely ever restart my os's now unless it's time for the weekly defrag and cleanup of the temp files.
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I've never had much luck with hibernate in any os, however I now do all my work in VMWare virtual machines and the suspend mode works perfectly and is super slick. I rarely ever restart my os's now unless it's time for the weekly defrag and cleanup of the temp files.
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Well, I appreciate that. But there are two main reasons that I couldn't do that: My machine is not capable of running a virtual machine with enough performance to satisfy me. I don't like leaving the machine on when I'm not home, so I would still have to hibernate it, and then wake it up.
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Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
I have my power settings configured to never auto-hibernate, but just to auto-sleep only when on battery or when I close the lid.
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Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
Heck, I can't even figure out the difference between sleep and hibernate, so I just shut down. I mean, isn't hibernation a form of sleep? Can't these geniuses who write these OS's come up with terms that mean something, and aren't effectively synonymous? Hmmm? Marc
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Heck, I can't even figure out the difference between sleep and hibernate, so I just shut down. I mean, isn't hibernation a form of sleep? Can't these geniuses who write these OS's come up with terms that mean something, and aren't effectively synonymous? Hmmm? Marc
Very good point. Do you know exactly what it reminds me of? Remember at the beginning when RAM was first starting to increase from just a handful of kilobytes? First there was High memory, then Expanded memory, then Extended memory..... They have as much trouble coming up with these names as you or I would. ;)
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Heck, I can't even figure out the difference between sleep and hibernate, so I just shut down. I mean, isn't hibernation a form of sleep? Can't these geniuses who write these OS's come up with terms that mean something, and aren't effectively synonymous? Hmmm? Marc
Hibernate dumps RAM to disk and turns the computer off. I can hibernate, throw my laptop in a bag, and be gone all week... Come back, turn it on, and i'm right back where i left. All you need is enough free disk space to hold your installed RAM. Sleep is a very low-power state, intended to prolong battery life. It requires all devices and device drivers to support it, something i've never had good luck with on any machine, ever. It's the first thing i disable on a new machine, lest it accidentally kick in and ruin everything. Even when it works, sleep is only good for a few hours, maybe a day if you have new, freshly-charged batteries. So hibernate is that long winter's nap, sleep is a cat-nap.
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Heck, I can't even figure out the difference between sleep and hibernate, so I just shut down. I mean, isn't hibernation a form of sleep? Can't these geniuses who write these OS's come up with terms that mean something, and aren't effectively synonymous? Hmmm? Marc
IMO all too often people try to condense everything into a single word; that may be fine for some, but it fails to help many in many situations. And obviously most adjectives (new, extended, expanded, improved,...) loose their relevance pretty soon. A few meaningful words would often be much better. Like so: hibernate --> disk-based sleep sleep --> power-based sleep BTW: I have read several times Vista offers a combination where RAM state gets backed up to disk but also is kept alive in RAM for as long as power or battery can hold it, so resuming would be as fast as possible; however I'm unable to find it in Vista's power control panel. :)
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Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
I haven't seen this behaviour. I often power it up, then take a leak or make green tea (mmm!) or whatever, and I see the password prompt when I get back.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
By installing windows XP
Would not help - my XP shuts down automatically after waking up:mad: And the laptop does not allow me to prevent hibernation completely.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
it only allows me about two minutes to log in
you need more than 2 minutes to enter your password :omg:
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Vista requires very long passwords... part of the Microsoft Security Initiative. Also, Richard used to work in a machine shop that had CNC machines controlled by Windows NT 4.0, so he has only one finger left.
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My hibernate wakes up fairly quickly and then I log in. I can't really think of a reason to wake the computer up and then not log on so I have never experienced the behavior. I bet there is an policy edit option for it somewhere.
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I wish I could find it. Since I reinstalled Win2k3 my system locks itself every 5 minutes. It's not in the power options, and it's driving me nuts. It never did this before...
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I have my power settings configured to never auto-hibernate, but just to auto-sleep only when on battery or when I close the lid.
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Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
Check for the "hibernate after inactivity" setting, I don't have Vista on my lappy, so I can't tell you where (I remember it being a button/link to do with customize profiles). Try logging in and leaving the cretin for two minutes and see if it hibernates. In any case, this has been the reason I disable any power management on any computer with any version of Windows. Especially when it comes to screen brightness (on laptops) - Windows just doesn't get it right (unplug screen goes dimmer, plug in it stays the same - but that could be TOSHIBA). And get rid of any OEM CRAPWARE. When you pop that driver CD in only install drivers, not one of the utils that Jimmy, the TOSHIBA CEO's eight year old son, decided to write (yes I have beef with TOSHIBA - and yes, it's TOSHIBA, not Toshiba for some reason). Sorry for the rant, but TOSHIBA should learn how to adhere to standards - and how to spell - and how to write decent software. For crying out loud.
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Vista requires very long passwords... part of the Microsoft Security Initiative. Also, Richard used to work in a machine shop that had CNC machines controlled by Windows NT 4.0, so he has only one finger left.
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ROFL - THAT was PERFECT!
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Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
I don't have a problem with it re-hibernating (not that I've tested it). I do have a problem when putting it in to hibernation, sometimes it just logs me off instead. I come down in the morning to a very hot lappy! :doh:
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Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
When you change the power settings you're only changing it for your profile. At the login screen I think it uses the default user profile, so it ignores your settings. I don't know how you change this under Vista but under XP you could create a new user, change their settings, then copy that profile over the default user. I'm sure there's an easier way of doing it by changing the correct registry key, which in XP I think is somewhere in HKEY_USERS/.DEFAULT/Control Panel/PowerCfg.
Regards Nelviticus
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I wish I could find it. Since I reinstalled Win2k3 my system locks itself every 5 minutes. It's not in the power options, and it's driving me nuts. It never did this before...
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
isnt that in the screen saver settings?
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
By installing windows XP
That won't help. XP does it as well.
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Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?
Yep, my XP box does this as well. 5 minutes on the dot after booting from hibernate, it'll shut down again if you've not used the keyboard or mouse. I've never found a means of altering the behaviour, modifying the power profile for the welcome screen account didn't seem to do anything. It even survived a reinstall of XP. Could it be an option in the BIOS that Windows is picking up and interpreting as "shut down with extreme prejudice after X minutes of no activity"?
