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  • M Marc Clifton

    Heck, I can't even figure out the difference between sleep and hibernate, so I just shut down. I mean, isn't hibernation a form of sleep? Can't these geniuses who write these OS's come up with terms that mean something, and aren't effectively synonymous? Hmmm? Marc

    Will work for food. Interacx

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    Richard Andrew x64
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    Very good point. Do you know exactly what it reminds me of? Remember at the beginning when RAM was first starting to increase from just a handful of kilobytes? First there was High memory, then Expanded memory, then Extended memory..... They have as much trouble coming up with these names as you or I would. ;)

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Heck, I can't even figure out the difference between sleep and hibernate, so I just shut down. I mean, isn't hibernation a form of sleep? Can't these geniuses who write these OS's come up with terms that mean something, and aren't effectively synonymous? Hmmm? Marc

      Will work for food. Interacx

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      Shog9 0
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      Hibernate dumps RAM to disk and turns the computer off. I can hibernate, throw my laptop in a bag, and be gone all week... Come back, turn it on, and i'm right back where i left. All you need is enough free disk space to hold your installed RAM. Sleep is a very low-power state, intended to prolong battery life. It requires all devices and device drivers to support it, something i've never had good luck with on any machine, ever. It's the first thing i disable on a new machine, lest it accidentally kick in and ruin everything. Even when it works, sleep is only good for a few hours, maybe a day if you have new, freshly-charged batteries. So hibernate is that long winter's nap, sleep is a cat-nap.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Heck, I can't even figure out the difference between sleep and hibernate, so I just shut down. I mean, isn't hibernation a form of sleep? Can't these geniuses who write these OS's come up with terms that mean something, and aren't effectively synonymous? Hmmm? Marc

        Will work for food. Interacx

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        Luc Pattyn
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        IMO all too often people try to condense everything into a single word; that may be fine for some, but it fails to help many in many situations. And obviously most adjectives (new, extended, expanded, improved,...) loose their relevance pretty soon. A few meaningful words would often be much better. Like so: hibernate --> disk-based sleep sleep --> power-based sleep BTW: I have read several times Vista offers a combination where RAM state gets backed up to disk but also is kept alive in RAM for as long as power or battery can hold it, so resuming would be as fast as possible; however I'm unable to find it in Vista's power control panel. :)

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?

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          Vikram A Punathambekar
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          I haven't seen this behaviour. I often power it up, then take a leak or make green tea (mmm!) or whatever, and I see the password prompt when I get back.

          Cheers, Vıkram.

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          • L Lost User

            Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

            Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?

            By installing windows XP

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            dmitri_sps
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            Would not help - my XP shuts down automatically after waking up:mad: And the laptop does not allow me to prevent hibernation completely.

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            • Y Yusuf

              Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

              it only allows me about two minutes to log in

              you need more than 2 minutes to enter your password :omg:

              Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]

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              Roger Wright
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              Vista requires very long passwords... part of the Microsoft Security Initiative. Also, Richard used to work in a machine shop that had CNC machines controlled by Windows NT 4.0, so he has only one finger left.

              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                My hibernate wakes up fairly quickly and then I log in. I can't really think of a reason to wake the computer up and then not log on so I have never experienced the behavior. I bet there is an policy edit option for it somewhere.

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                Roger Wright
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                I wish I could find it. Since I reinstalled Win2k3 my system locks itself every 5 minutes. It's not in the power options, and it's driving me nuts. It never did this before...

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  I have my power settings configured to never auto-hibernate, but just to auto-sleep only when on battery or when I close the lid.

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                  Erilaz
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                  I always just shut down instead of hibernating. When it boots up, it stays at the login screen as long as it takes me to get round to logging in.

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                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                    Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?

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                    Jonathan C Dickinson
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                    Check for the "hibernate after inactivity" setting, I don't have Vista on my lappy, so I can't tell you where (I remember it being a button/link to do with customize profiles). Try logging in and leaving the cretin for two minutes and see if it hibernates. In any case, this has been the reason I disable any power management on any computer with any version of Windows. Especially when it comes to screen brightness (on laptops) - Windows just doesn't get it right (unplug screen goes dimmer, plug in it stays the same - but that could be TOSHIBA). And get rid of any OEM CRAPWARE. When you pop that driver CD in only install drivers, not one of the utils that Jimmy, the TOSHIBA CEO's eight year old son, decided to write (yes I have beef with TOSHIBA - and yes, it's TOSHIBA, not Toshiba for some reason). Sorry for the rant, but TOSHIBA should learn how to adhere to standards - and how to spell - and how to write decent software. For crying out loud.

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      Vista requires very long passwords... part of the Microsoft Security Initiative. Also, Richard used to work in a machine shop that had CNC machines controlled by Windows NT 4.0, so he has only one finger left.

                      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                      JasonPSage
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                      ROFL - THAT was PERFECT!

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                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                        Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?

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                        I don't have a problem with it re-hibernating (not that I've tested it). I do have a problem when putting it in to hibernation, sometimes it just logs me off instead. I come down in the morning to a very hot lappy! :doh:

                        You don't have to be mad to live here [UK], but it helps.

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                        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                          Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?

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                          Nelviticus
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                          When you change the power settings you're only changing it for your profile. At the login screen I think it uses the default user profile, so it ignores your settings. I don't know how you change this under Vista but under XP you could create a new user, change their settings, then copy that profile over the default user. I'm sure there's an easier way of doing it by changing the correct registry key, which in XP I think is somewhere in HKEY_USERS/.DEFAULT/Control Panel/PowerCfg.

                          Regards Nelviticus

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                          • R Roger Wright

                            I wish I could find it. Since I reinstalled Win2k3 my system locks itself every 5 minutes. It's not in the power options, and it's driving me nuts. It never did this before...

                            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                            neilmajithia
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                            isnt that in the screen saver settings?

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                            • L Lost User

                              Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                              Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?

                              By installing windows XP

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                              Simon Capewell
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                              That won't help. XP does it as well.

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                              • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?

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                                Simon Capewell
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                                Yep, my XP box does this as well. 5 minutes on the dot after booting from hibernate, it'll shut down again if you've not used the keyboard or mouse. I've never found a means of altering the behaviour, modifying the power profile for the welcome screen account didn't seem to do anything. It even survived a reinstall of XP. Could it be an option in the BIOS that Windows is picking up and interpreting as "shut down with extreme prejudice after X minutes of no activity"?

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Someone had to say it :)

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                                  peterchen
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                                  actually, not again ;)

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                                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                    Does anyone else here use hibernate in Vista? When I wake my desktop machine from hibernation, it only allows me about two minutes to log in. After the two minutes, if I haven't logged in, it automatically re-hibernates. :mad: I can't find any setting in the Power Options control panel that addresses this behavior. Does anyone know how I might stop it from automatically re-hibernating?

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                                    Natanji
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                                    I use it, and that doesn't happen to me. Maybe you can do something with the energy options in system control panel?

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                                    • P peterchen

                                      actually, not again ;)

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Ok maybe not.. it seemed like a good idea at the time :laugh:

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                                      • Y Yusuf

                                        you missed the joke icon, didn't you? ;)

                                        Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]

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                                        Earl Truss
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                                        If you need an icon to signify something is a joke, it isn't.

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                                        • E Earl Truss

                                          If you need an icon to signify something is a joke, it isn't.

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                                          Yusuf
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                                          Earl Truss wrote:

                                          If you need an icon to signify something is a joke, it isn't.

                                          the joke icon is on the subject line. I think you are talking about the smiley in the post.

                                          Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^]

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