Does anyone else think Elijah Wood...
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Hmmm, OK. As for looks, surely the majority of women would find him too small and too feminine looking. Incidentally, one observation I have made in life (and in some of the replies here) is that women erroneously believe that men are just hiding their ability to see another man's attractiveness. This is simply not true. Just because women can see what men find attractive in women does not mean it's the same for men. It is no coincidence that women know exactly what men want and men have no idea what women want. In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have! :) "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
phykell wrote: In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have! Amen to that! Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger
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Anna :) wrote: Dave - that's a truly honest admission, and one most guys couldn't ever bring themselves to make. Well done. I make admissions like that all the time, and although my close friends know how to take me it can cause a few odd looks here and there if I mentioned "christ that guy is attractive" in a crowded bar... :(( Anna :) wrote: And yes, I do think he's damn cute Thanks. :) Anna :) wrote: As he gets older he'll probably start looking a bit more rugged and "male", but it probably won't be that noticeable until he's 30 or so. Facial hair is the other big thing of course - it makes the skin much more coarse and generally gives it a hard time Damn, now I never want to age over twenty one! Anna :) wrote: His eyes won't change though - they'll always be pretty Good. He will make a brilliant Mel Gibson type "lovable" actor one day, if not for his eyes alone. I wonder if they do "Elijah Blue" contact lenses... :) Anna :) wrote: Most guys don't get this, but admitting you think a member of the same sex is attractive does not make you gay - that implies a sexual preference, which is a different thing. I get it, though one of my friends is so strictly homophobic that he can't see the line and thinks even saying "your hair looks nice today" makes you say things like "coooey" and "ooooh how are all you guys" (said in a traditionally camp voice). Anna :) wrote: I'd be very surprised if most of us hadn't come across someone of the same sex we'd been attacted to (even just a bit) at least once - and being ashamed of it leads to denial. That's certainly how I've felt in the past when it's happened to me With me what you see is what you get, and I am certainly not ashamed to admit I find Elijah Wood attractive (hell I'd be ashamaed to admit it if I didn't!). I also think Jason Behr is cute; just not *as* cute... :rolleyes: Anna :) wrote: Hehe I suspect few will be man enough to admit it even if they do agree...male society just couldn't cope with it. Yeah, that is sometihng I see around me all the time, and to be honest it annoys the hell out of me. Maybe always being the so called "outcast" has meant I don't need to rely on social stereotyping to live my life and can handle being who I am and saying what I believe, whereas others need the illusion that they are in
David Wulff wrote: I make admissions like that all the time, and although my close friends know how to take me it can cause a few odd looks here and there if I mentioned "christ that guy is attractive" in a crowded bar... Good for you! I'd sure love to see it though...;) David Wulff wrote: Damn, now I never want to age over twenty one! Neither do I but I missed the boat there I'm afraid. Going onto HRT helps though, and for some reason TS's seem to age slower - I've always looked about 5 years younger than I really am. David Wulff wrote: Good. He will make a brilliant Mel Gibson type "lovable" actor one day, if not for his eyes alone. I wonder if they do "Elijah Blue" contact lenses... Hmmm...I've got black hair, so with blue eyes - could make an interesting combination with a gothic outfit, don't you think? :cool: David Wulff wrote: I get it, though one of my friends is so strictly homophobic that he can't see the line and thinks even saying "your hair looks nice today" makes you say things like "coooey" and "ooooh how are all you guys" (said in a traditionally camp voice). That sounds very much like a sign of insecurity or self doubt. I'm sure if you could dig deep enough, there'd be something in his past or feelings he felt a little ashamed of. :( Dealing with it and accepting who you are is so much better in the long run. David Wulff wrote: With me what you see is what you get, and I am certainly not ashamed to admit I find Elijah Wood attractive (hell I'd be ashamaed to admit it if I didn't!). I also think Jason Behr is cute; just not *as* cute... I'm glad. :-D I don't recognise the name (it is Monday after all!) - what's Jason Behr look like? David Wulff wrote: Yeah, that is sometihng I see around me all the time, and to be honest it annoys the hell out of me. Maybe always being the so called "outcast" has meant I don't need to rely on social stereotyping to live my life and can handle being who I am and saying what I believe, whereas others need the illusion that they are in some way "normal". What a bunch of crap if you ask me - why live life as someone elses idea (and even then I'd suspect very few people actually believe in it themselves). Oh well, people are free to choose which groups they want to graze with--er, follow... I'd rather act the goat than be a sheep anyday. The Gospel
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Anna :) wrote: I'd be very surprised if most of us hadn't come across someone of the same sex we'd been attacted to (even just a bit) at least once There's a difference between thinking someone is attractive and being attracted to someone. There are a couple of male CPians that I think are attractive people, but I am in no way attracted to them. Remember people are different. So, there could actually be some people on this planet that don't want to take it up the ass, nor do they fancy it. And, there are some people that do. I believe in Freudianism in the fact that everything does revolve around sex in one way or another - just pay attention to Trollslayer's "selective" posts for an example. And, if one guy finds another attractive without being attracted to him, per sé, I believe one explanation could be a subconscious hope that women will do the same. Hence, more of an opportunity to be around women, when being around that guy. Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our lives. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger
Jeremy Falcon wrote: everything does revolve around sex in one way or another - just pay attention to Trollslayer's "selective" posts for an example. Please excuse my ignorance, but can you explain what you mean by that? - Just interested, that's all... Jeremy Falcon wrote: And, if one guy finds another attractive without being attracted to him, per sé, I believe one explanation could be a subconscious hope that women will do the same. Hence, more of an opportunity to be around women, when being around that guy. Wow! - desperation, subconsciously or not... "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
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David Wulff wrote: I make admissions like that all the time, and although my close friends know how to take me it can cause a few odd looks here and there if I mentioned "christ that guy is attractive" in a crowded bar... Good for you! I'd sure love to see it though...;) David Wulff wrote: Damn, now I never want to age over twenty one! Neither do I but I missed the boat there I'm afraid. Going onto HRT helps though, and for some reason TS's seem to age slower - I've always looked about 5 years younger than I really am. David Wulff wrote: Good. He will make a brilliant Mel Gibson type "lovable" actor one day, if not for his eyes alone. I wonder if they do "Elijah Blue" contact lenses... Hmmm...I've got black hair, so with blue eyes - could make an interesting combination with a gothic outfit, don't you think? :cool: David Wulff wrote: I get it, though one of my friends is so strictly homophobic that he can't see the line and thinks even saying "your hair looks nice today" makes you say things like "coooey" and "ooooh how are all you guys" (said in a traditionally camp voice). That sounds very much like a sign of insecurity or self doubt. I'm sure if you could dig deep enough, there'd be something in his past or feelings he felt a little ashamed of. :( Dealing with it and accepting who you are is so much better in the long run. David Wulff wrote: With me what you see is what you get, and I am certainly not ashamed to admit I find Elijah Wood attractive (hell I'd be ashamaed to admit it if I didn't!). I also think Jason Behr is cute; just not *as* cute... I'm glad. :-D I don't recognise the name (it is Monday after all!) - what's Jason Behr look like? David Wulff wrote: Yeah, that is sometihng I see around me all the time, and to be honest it annoys the hell out of me. Maybe always being the so called "outcast" has meant I don't need to rely on social stereotyping to live my life and can handle being who I am and saying what I believe, whereas others need the illusion that they are in some way "normal". What a bunch of crap if you ask me - why live life as someone elses idea (and even then I'd suspect very few people actually believe in it themselves). Oh well, people are free to choose which groups they want to graze with--er, follow... I'd rather act the goat than be a sheep anyday. The Gospel
Anna :) wrote: Hmmm...I've got black hair, so with blue eyes - could make an interesting combination with a gothic outfit, don't you think? Eak! That would look seiously freaky! Anna :) wrote: what's Jason Behr look like? He's another twenty-something actor that usually plays teenagers. I guess that's a reason why I tihnk he's good looking... http://www.jasonbehr.com/flash_index.html[^] Before someone asks, I just typed jasonbehr.com into the address bar to see if it was there... :suss: Anna :) wrote: God certainly has a sense of humour when it comes to my life... You should have started an innocent conversation with her talking about something only a boyfriend would have known, and see if she picks up on it. You could have had soooooo much fun with that one!
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
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Anna :) wrote: I'd be very surprised if most of us hadn't come across someone of the same sex we'd been attacted to (even just a bit) at least once There's a difference between thinking someone is attractive and being attracted to someone. There are a couple of male CPians that I think are attractive people, but I am in no way attracted to them. Remember people are different. So, there could actually be some people on this planet that don't want to take it up the ass, nor do they fancy it. And, there are some people that do. I believe in Freudianism in the fact that everything does revolve around sex in one way or another - just pay attention to Trollslayer's "selective" posts for an example. And, if one guy finds another attractive without being attracted to him, per sé, I believe one explanation could be a subconscious hope that women will do the same. Hence, more of an opportunity to be around women, when being around that guy. Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our lives. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger
Jeremy Falcon wrote: There's a difference between thinking someone is attractive and being attracted to someone. There are a couple of male CPians that I think are attractive people, but I am in no way attracted to them. Precisely; well said. I guess I just assume everyone thinks like that too.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
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Anna :) wrote: I'd be very surprised if most of us hadn't come across someone of the same sex we'd been attacted to (even just a bit) at least once There's a difference between thinking someone is attractive and being attracted to someone. There are a couple of male CPians that I think are attractive people, but I am in no way attracted to them. Remember people are different. So, there could actually be some people on this planet that don't want to take it up the ass, nor do they fancy it. And, there are some people that do. I believe in Freudianism in the fact that everything does revolve around sex in one way or another - just pay attention to Trollslayer's "selective" posts for an example. And, if one guy finds another attractive without being attracted to him, per sé, I believe one explanation could be a subconscious hope that women will do the same. Hence, more of an opportunity to be around women, when being around that guy. Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our lives. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "C# is the answer to a question nobody asked." - Chris Losinger
Jeremy Falcon wrote: There's a difference between thinking someone is attractive and being attracted to someone. There are a couple of male CPians that I think are attractive people, but I am in no way attracted to them. Of course. But some people (usually guys) can't even admit to the former, so if they have felt an attraction, they certainly won't admit it! Jeremy Falcon wrote: Remember people are different. So, there could actually be some people on this planet that don't want to take it up the ass, nor do they fancy it. And, there are some people that do. Blunt, but true. Mind you, there's a difference between admitting an attraction for someone and wanting to sleep with them. In my case, although I'm attracted to some guys (I don't go for the rugged type, possibly because of my past) I can't see myself wanting to have a sexual relationship with one until after surgery (and maybe not even then). Wait and see. Jeremy Falcon wrote: I believe in Freudianism in the fact that everything does revolve around sex in one way or another - just pay attention to Trollslayer's "selective" posts for an example. And, if one guy finds another attractive without being attracted to him, per sé, I believe one explanation could be a subconscious hope that women will do the same. Hence, more of an opportunity to be around women, when being around that guy. I think you're right there - social interractions are based on sex and - more importantly reproduction...it's nature's way of ensuring the species survives. We just happen to have complicated things by being sentient and adding our own "rules" to the game. I can't speak for the explanation for attraction you give though, as I've never really been a guy! Jeremy Falcon wrote: Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our lives. I love the quote. :cool: Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: everything does revolve around sex in one way or another - just pay attention to Trollslayer's "selective" posts for an example. Please excuse my ignorance, but can you explain what you mean by that? - Just interested, that's all... Jeremy Falcon wrote: And, if one guy finds another attractive without being attracted to him, per sé, I believe one explanation could be a subconscious hope that women will do the same. Hence, more of an opportunity to be around women, when being around that guy. Wow! - desperation, subconsciously or not... "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can."
phykell wrote: Please excuse my ignorance, but can you explain what you mean by that? - Just interested, that's all... Well, the short answer is a borderline injustice to the belief, but to shed some light on it you first have to realize the main goal of any species is to procreate - whether it be a virus, a dog, or an amoeba. Humans procreate through sex, so regardless of us getting our rocks off with guys or girls or monkeys or crusty underwear, we still have an acute interest in sex. We revolve around this fundamental need. If you didn't, you wouldn't just happen to check out some fine-ass chick (or stud) passing by or do whatever silly things to you to appease the almighty hormones. I dare you to not have sex (including masturbation) for a long time. One of two things will happen. 1: You'll crack and do it anyway. 2: You'll find another method of sexual satisfaction, whether it be pr0n or something like animals. This also applies if you can't get women. Another extreme in this situation too, is some guys will even turn to other guys to get it (note, I didn't say this is the only reason, so don't read too much into it). There is a whole lot more theory I have about all of this and my short explanation needs a lot more substance, but alas, I am at work and I can't spend too much time writing it at the moment. phykell wrote: Wow! - desperation, subconsciously or not... One thing is for sure; there are a zillion variables in almost any given situation. And, don't be so quick to ridicule a subconscious thought. It revolves around people's insecurities. Well all have them, just different ones. Have you ever seen a chick you didn't approach for whatever reason? I have, even though I have no problem with getting women. You may or may not choose "good looking" friends. As I stated, this is one possible reason. To reiterate, there are many variables involved. My point was there are other reasons a guy could think another guy is attractive without being attracted to him. If you like the study of the mind and psychology, you'll most likely end up studying Freud, and FWIW I think it's an interesting learn. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have!" - phykell
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: There's a difference between thinking someone is attractive and being attracted to someone. There are a couple of male CPians that I think are attractive people, but I am in no way attracted to them. Precisely; well said. I guess I just assume everyone thinks like that too.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
David Wulff wrote: Precisely; well said. I guess I just assume everyone thinks like that too. Wouldn't it be nice? :-D Jeremy Falcon Imputek "In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have!" - phykell
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: There's a difference between thinking someone is attractive and being attracted to someone. There are a couple of male CPians that I think are attractive people, but I am in no way attracted to them. Of course. But some people (usually guys) can't even admit to the former, so if they have felt an attraction, they certainly won't admit it! Jeremy Falcon wrote: Remember people are different. So, there could actually be some people on this planet that don't want to take it up the ass, nor do they fancy it. And, there are some people that do. Blunt, but true. Mind you, there's a difference between admitting an attraction for someone and wanting to sleep with them. In my case, although I'm attracted to some guys (I don't go for the rugged type, possibly because of my past) I can't see myself wanting to have a sexual relationship with one until after surgery (and maybe not even then). Wait and see. Jeremy Falcon wrote: I believe in Freudianism in the fact that everything does revolve around sex in one way or another - just pay attention to Trollslayer's "selective" posts for an example. And, if one guy finds another attractive without being attracted to him, per sé, I believe one explanation could be a subconscious hope that women will do the same. Hence, more of an opportunity to be around women, when being around that guy. I think you're right there - social interractions are based on sex and - more importantly reproduction...it's nature's way of ensuring the species survives. We just happen to have complicated things by being sentient and adding our own "rules" to the game. I can't speak for the explanation for attraction you give though, as I've never really been a guy! Jeremy Falcon wrote: Like sands through the hourglass, these are the days of our lives. I love the quote. :cool: Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
- Marcia GraeschAnna :) wrote: Of course. But some people (usually guys) can't even admit to the former, so if they have felt an attraction, they certainly won't admit it! I agree. In the male world, the pressure is much greater and the act is less accepted. Anna :) wrote: Blunt, but true. That's what sports will do to ya. :) Anna :) wrote: Mind you, there's a difference between admitting an attraction for someone and wanting to sleep with them. Yup yup. Anna :) wrote: I love the quote. Well, it's from a popular soap opera here in the US - Days of Our Lives. Just don't ask how I know that. :suss: :-D Jeremy Falcon Imputek "In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have!" - phykell
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Anna :) wrote: Hmmm...I've got black hair, so with blue eyes - could make an interesting combination with a gothic outfit, don't you think? Eak! That would look seiously freaky! Anna :) wrote: what's Jason Behr look like? He's another twenty-something actor that usually plays teenagers. I guess that's a reason why I tihnk he's good looking... http://www.jasonbehr.com/flash_index.html[^] Before someone asks, I just typed jasonbehr.com into the address bar to see if it was there... :suss: Anna :) wrote: God certainly has a sense of humour when it comes to my life... You should have started an innocent conversation with her talking about something only a boyfriend would have known, and see if she picks up on it. You could have had soooooo much fun with that one!
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
David Wulff wrote: Eak! That would look seiously freaky! Hehe I can do freaky - I discovered recently that the gothic look rather suits me...:omg: David Wulff wrote: He's another twenty-something actor that usually plays teenagers. I guess that's a reason why I tihnk he's good looking... I see what you mean. He's not my type though - attraction's an odd thing, isn't it? David Wulff wrote: You should have started an innocent conversation with her talking about something only a boyfriend would have known, and see if she picks up on it. You could have had soooooo much fun with that one! If we'd broken up on (shall we say) less than amicable terms, that would have been interesting... However, Louise and I parted as close friends (we just lost touch a few years back) and she still means too much to me to drop a bombshell like that on her with no warning! Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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Anna :) wrote: Of course. But some people (usually guys) can't even admit to the former, so if they have felt an attraction, they certainly won't admit it! I agree. In the male world, the pressure is much greater and the act is less accepted. Anna :) wrote: Blunt, but true. That's what sports will do to ya. :) Anna :) wrote: Mind you, there's a difference between admitting an attraction for someone and wanting to sleep with them. Yup yup. Anna :) wrote: I love the quote. Well, it's from a popular soap opera here in the US - Days of Our Lives. Just don't ask how I know that. :suss: :-D Jeremy Falcon Imputek "In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have!" - phykell
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Chris Losinger wrote: nope :omg: Have you considered going to the opticians and having your eyes tested? I think you must be short sighted... :laugh: Chris Losinger wrote: i think he's an overall decent actor and a fine Frodo, tho. Decent? Well yeah, once I have gotten over the initial visual admiration I can agree to that - with one exception as given above when he played Stu in The War, which for such a relatively young actor was IMHO a heck of a good performance.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
David Wulff wrote: Have you considered going to the opticians and having your eyes tested? I think you must be short sighted... as someone who suffers from that same eternal youthful face thing, i have a hard time feeling anything but pity for others who share the condition. :( -c
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phykell wrote: Please excuse my ignorance, but can you explain what you mean by that? - Just interested, that's all... Well, the short answer is a borderline injustice to the belief, but to shed some light on it you first have to realize the main goal of any species is to procreate - whether it be a virus, a dog, or an amoeba. Humans procreate through sex, so regardless of us getting our rocks off with guys or girls or monkeys or crusty underwear, we still have an acute interest in sex. We revolve around this fundamental need. If you didn't, you wouldn't just happen to check out some fine-ass chick (or stud) passing by or do whatever silly things to you to appease the almighty hormones. I dare you to not have sex (including masturbation) for a long time. One of two things will happen. 1: You'll crack and do it anyway. 2: You'll find another method of sexual satisfaction, whether it be pr0n or something like animals. This also applies if you can't get women. Another extreme in this situation too, is some guys will even turn to other guys to get it (note, I didn't say this is the only reason, so don't read too much into it). There is a whole lot more theory I have about all of this and my short explanation needs a lot more substance, but alas, I am at work and I can't spend too much time writing it at the moment. phykell wrote: Wow! - desperation, subconsciously or not... One thing is for sure; there are a zillion variables in almost any given situation. And, don't be so quick to ridicule a subconscious thought. It revolves around people's insecurities. Well all have them, just different ones. Have you ever seen a chick you didn't approach for whatever reason? I have, even though I have no problem with getting women. You may or may not choose "good looking" friends. As I stated, this is one possible reason. To reiterate, there are many variables involved. My point was there are other reasons a guy could think another guy is attractive without being attracted to him. If you like the study of the mind and psychology, you'll most likely end up studying Freud, and FWIW I think it's an interesting learn. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have!" - phykell
Jeremy Falcon wrote: phykell wrote: Please excuse my ignorance, but can you explain what you mean by that? - Just interested, that's all... Well, the short answer is a borderline injustice to the belief, but to shed some light on it you first have to realize the main goal of any species is to procreate - whether it be a virus, a dog, or an amoeba. Humans procreate through sex, so regardless of us getting our rocks off with guys or girls or monkeys or crusty underwear, we still have an acute interest in sex. We revolve around this fundamental need. If you didn't, you wouldn't just happen to check out some fine-ass chick (or stud) passing by or do whatever silly things to you to appease the almighty hormones. I dare you to not have sex (including masturbation) for a long time. One of two things will happen. 1: You'll crack and do it anyway. 2: You'll find another method of sexual satisfaction, whether it be pr0n or something like animals. This also applies if you can't get women. Another extreme in this situation too, is some guys will even turn to other guys to get it (note, I didn't say this is the only reason, so don't read too much into it). There is a whole lot more theory I have about all of this and my short explanation needs a lot more substance, but alas, I am at work and I can't spend too much time writing it at the moment. Unfortunately I believe you missed my point. I was wondering what you meant when you referred specifically to Trollslayer. Jeremy Falcon wrote: One thing is for sure; there are a zillion variables in almost any given situation. And, don't be so quick to ridicule a subconscious thought. It revolves around people's insecurities. Well all have them, just different ones. Have you ever seen a chick you didn't approach for whatever reason? I have, even though I have no problem with getting women. You may or may not choose "good looking" friends. As I stated, this is one possible reason. To reiterate, there are many variables involved. My point was there are other reasons a guy could think another guy is attractive without being attracted to him. If you like the study of the mind and psychology, you'll most likely end up studying Freud, and FWIW I think it's an interesting learn. It's been a long time since I ever "approached" a "chick" (not my words). I certainly wouldn't even consider choosing my friends specifically to increase my chances of meeting women. Then again, I simply don't think along the lines
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...is damned attractive? I mean, damn, Anna - hold that bus for me I'm coming with you! The guy must be one of the cutest human beings I have ever seen - male or female - and I know he is only 21, but when he is forty he will still look nineteen, and those eyes... well did I mention THOSE EYES? There is something hypnotically enthralling about those eyes! Paul Mckenner eat your heart out! Sure he smokes, drinks coffee and bites his nails, but hey no-one is perfect. :suss: :-O For those living in a cave, this is he. If you really didn't know who he was at least form his performances in the three LOTR films then but for the love of god you do not deserve to have eyes. Best performance to date - whatever that date happens to be - is always going to be The War (1994) where he played alongside Harrison Ford in the most emotional coming-of-age film I have ever seen. Nay, the most emotionally real film I have ever seen - and I laughed when the little baby was shot in that Planet of the Apes programme. It may seem silly if you watch it now, but at the time it made more connections with me than a home elctronics kit. Pure unadulterated acting brilliance from Wood, and one that has made me a bigger fan than my sister. So they you go; it seems I may have a bit of closet homosexual in me yet. No pun intended of course. *cough* ;) I can't be alone, so who else thinks Elijah Wood is damned attractive then? Fluffly tigeress's not alowed, I want admissions from butch lions...
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
He certainly does have one of those very pleasing faces to look at. In a completely hetrosexual way. :)
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: phykell wrote: Please excuse my ignorance, but can you explain what you mean by that? - Just interested, that's all... Well, the short answer is a borderline injustice to the belief, but to shed some light on it you first have to realize the main goal of any species is to procreate - whether it be a virus, a dog, or an amoeba. Humans procreate through sex, so regardless of us getting our rocks off with guys or girls or monkeys or crusty underwear, we still have an acute interest in sex. We revolve around this fundamental need. If you didn't, you wouldn't just happen to check out some fine-ass chick (or stud) passing by or do whatever silly things to you to appease the almighty hormones. I dare you to not have sex (including masturbation) for a long time. One of two things will happen. 1: You'll crack and do it anyway. 2: You'll find another method of sexual satisfaction, whether it be pr0n or something like animals. This also applies if you can't get women. Another extreme in this situation too, is some guys will even turn to other guys to get it (note, I didn't say this is the only reason, so don't read too much into it). There is a whole lot more theory I have about all of this and my short explanation needs a lot more substance, but alas, I am at work and I can't spend too much time writing it at the moment. Unfortunately I believe you missed my point. I was wondering what you meant when you referred specifically to Trollslayer. Jeremy Falcon wrote: One thing is for sure; there are a zillion variables in almost any given situation. And, don't be so quick to ridicule a subconscious thought. It revolves around people's insecurities. Well all have them, just different ones. Have you ever seen a chick you didn't approach for whatever reason? I have, even though I have no problem with getting women. You may or may not choose "good looking" friends. As I stated, this is one possible reason. To reiterate, there are many variables involved. My point was there are other reasons a guy could think another guy is attractive without being attracted to him. If you like the study of the mind and psychology, you'll most likely end up studying Freud, and FWIW I think it's an interesting learn. It's been a long time since I ever "approached" a "chick" (not my words). I certainly wouldn't even consider choosing my friends specifically to increase my chances of meeting women. Then again, I simply don't think along the lines
phykell wrote: Unfortunately I believe you missed my point. Well, not to focus solely on her, other female CPians do this as well (like Lauren), but the fruit of many of their conversations revolve mainly around male CPians who have a pic. I'm sure I'm not the only one that picked up on this pattern because we are all programmers here. This, of course, goes the other way around too. I see male CPians using any opportunity to reply/talk to a female CPian with a picture. There's nothing bad or wrong about this, that's just life. phykell wrote: I certainly wouldn't even consider choosing my friends specifically to increase my chances of meeting women. This is not what I am implying directly. For one, some people do choose their friends like that. I don't. But, I'm referring to the subconscious aspect in which you do not think about what's happening, you just feel a connection. And, if you weren't interested in sex, you wouldn't be married. Some people manifest their needs differently. You may find your needs fulfilled through a monogamous relationship and therefore get what you like at home in a secure environment amiss of first impressions and snap judgements. phykell wrote: I don't dress to attract them and I don't drive a specific car to attract them. In fact, the sort of women that might be impressed by cars/money, whatever, are exactly the sort of women I wouldn't want to meet. Which is exactly why you didn't do these things. But, you have gone through some ritual to get your woman - it was just probably different. Whether it's intelligence or a nice butt, people have their criteria for the perfect mate. phykell wrote: I will freely admit that I am not in the position of having to look for a female partner as I'm already happily married. Perhaps my opinion might be different if I was single, but I certainly hope not. People do look for it if it's not already present. If you didn't, you wouldn't be married in the first place. If you got divorced, in enough time, you'd be looking for it again. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have!" - phykell
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David Wulff wrote: Eak! That would look seiously freaky! Hehe I can do freaky - I discovered recently that the gothic look rather suits me...:omg: David Wulff wrote: He's another twenty-something actor that usually plays teenagers. I guess that's a reason why I tihnk he's good looking... I see what you mean. He's not my type though - attraction's an odd thing, isn't it? David Wulff wrote: You should have started an innocent conversation with her talking about something only a boyfriend would have known, and see if she picks up on it. You could have had soooooo much fun with that one! If we'd broken up on (shall we say) less than amicable terms, that would have been interesting... However, Louise and I parted as close friends (we just lost touch a few years back) and she still means too much to me to drop a bombshell like that on her with no warning! Anna :rose: "Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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phykell wrote: Unfortunately I believe you missed my point. Well, not to focus solely on her, other female CPians do this as well (like Lauren), but the fruit of many of their conversations revolve mainly around male CPians who have a pic. I'm sure I'm not the only one that picked up on this pattern because we are all programmers here. This, of course, goes the other way around too. I see male CPians using any opportunity to reply/talk to a female CPian with a picture. There's nothing bad or wrong about this, that's just life. phykell wrote: I certainly wouldn't even consider choosing my friends specifically to increase my chances of meeting women. This is not what I am implying directly. For one, some people do choose their friends like that. I don't. But, I'm referring to the subconscious aspect in which you do not think about what's happening, you just feel a connection. And, if you weren't interested in sex, you wouldn't be married. Some people manifest their needs differently. You may find your needs fulfilled through a monogamous relationship and therefore get what you like at home in a secure environment amiss of first impressions and snap judgements. phykell wrote: I don't dress to attract them and I don't drive a specific car to attract them. In fact, the sort of women that might be impressed by cars/money, whatever, are exactly the sort of women I wouldn't want to meet. Which is exactly why you didn't do these things. But, you have gone through some ritual to get your woman - it was just probably different. Whether it's intelligence or a nice butt, people have their criteria for the perfect mate. phykell wrote: I will freely admit that I am not in the position of having to look for a female partner as I'm already happily married. Perhaps my opinion might be different if I was single, but I certainly hope not. People do look for it if it's not already present. If you didn't, you wouldn't be married in the first place. If you got divorced, in enough time, you'd be looking for it again. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have!" - phykell
Jeremy, to be honest I can't remember offhand which male CPians have a picture of themselves on their profiles and which don't. Sorry, but I am just responding to people not pictures. I respond to how someone's personality comes over, e.g. some people have an open sense of humour, some a very subversive one etc.. I'm not trying to turn this on you, but how would you describe how you react to other CPians ? Elaine (curious fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Jeremy, to be honest I can't remember offhand which male CPians have a picture of themselves on their profiles and which don't. Sorry, but I am just responding to people not pictures. I respond to how someone's personality comes over, e.g. some people have an open sense of humour, some a very subversive one etc.. I'm not trying to turn this on you, but how would you describe how you react to other CPians ? Elaine (curious fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
Trollslayer wrote: Sorry, but I am just responding to people not pictures. The bad thing about using a specific... ya gonna get defensive. The bad thing about not using one... someone might ask for a specific. Herm. Do you talk to people without pics - yes. But, I've seen your attitude change (akin to flirtsy) towards individuals with pictures on their profile. The one fresh in my mind is Jörgen Sigvardsson, but I don't really care to look up others because this is not important. Like I said, it's not wrong or bad. I flirt with chicks, and I admit that freely. No big friggin' deal. Trollslayer wrote: I'm not trying to turn this on you, but how would you describe how you react to other CPians ? I usually say what people think but don't actually say. Most people try to be a peacemaker and don't verbally expose their thoughts. Is this a fault, maybe, because nobody really ever wants to hear something unless it pleases them. Does this make me an asshole? I'd like to think no, but it probably does. :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek "In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have!" - phykell
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Trollslayer wrote: Sorry, but I am just responding to people not pictures. The bad thing about using a specific... ya gonna get defensive. The bad thing about not using one... someone might ask for a specific. Herm. Do you talk to people without pics - yes. But, I've seen your attitude change (akin to flirtsy) towards individuals with pictures on their profile. The one fresh in my mind is Jörgen Sigvardsson, but I don't really care to look up others because this is not important. Like I said, it's not wrong or bad. I flirt with chicks, and I admit that freely. No big friggin' deal. Trollslayer wrote: I'm not trying to turn this on you, but how would you describe how you react to other CPians ? I usually say what people think but don't actually say. Most people try to be a peacemaker and don't verbally expose their thoughts. Is this a fault, maybe, because nobody really ever wants to hear something unless it pleases them. Does this make me an asshole? I'd like to think no, but it probably does. :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek "In fact it is quite simple, men and women both only want one thing - what they can't have!" - phykell
Defensive ? One of the problems with a message board is that you can't hear someones tone of voice or watch their eyes so its easy to misinterpret what they say (this is probably a factor in flame wars on the net). And yes, I'm going to say it again, its nothing to do with pictures. The reason ? Its not. Simple. Believe me, if it was about pictures I would say so, yet despite this you have told me twice what drives my decisions. I find this interesting :suss: As to flirting, if we didn't do it the next generation wouldn't exist ! The interesting part is that its you thats has been looking at pictures. I actually look at profiles for what else is there since a static picture tells you very little about someone. Ravi Bs profile is one of the best and his site the most fun. Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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