Obama Wants US Veterans to Pay for service-related Injuries

Christian Graus

Rob Graham wrote:

it is a mute point,

I hate to be the spelling police, but this one really gets me. It's a moot point. It's not that the point can't talk, it's that it has 'no legal significance'.

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Mike Gaskey

led mike wrote:

Aren't you one of the scoffers of conspiracy theory's regarding the Warren Commission and the magic bullet?

no, not at all. point in fact, I lived in Dallas when JFK was murdered and have never believed that we've been told the truth.

led mike wrote:

forgot that your sh*t is stuff.

you going for an Ilion impersonation award?

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Chris Austin

I didn't see the ironic icon Ed. :)

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Stan Shannon

Was this[^] racist?

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Christian Graus

I do love the overuse of the word 'hero' in the USA. I guess it's part of a culture of warfare. Having said that, if what you say is true, that totally blows. I'd be amazed he'd try it, it would surely be the end of his re-election chances, and the beginning of some hard work for his security team. Good idea - annoy all the people who know how to shoot a gun. That's not the only reason, if someone offers to risk their life for their country, their country owes them. It sure as hell owes them medical treatment if injured.

Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

Stan Shannon

Oakman wrote:

Obama wants to conquer South Vietnam

If it were still there to be conquered he would. As it is he was content to take out the last corner of the globe that had not fallen to the commies.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

realJSOP

You gotta wonder about the Marines that are stationed at the White House. If he managed to get something like that passed, would the Marines guarding him be as willing to take a bullet for him if they knew they'd be financially responsible for their wounds if they got hit? If I were Obama, I'd seriously re-think this whole thing.

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Christian Graus

Given that he's not done it, and that others are reporting he's thinking about it, one has to wonder how seriously he's considering this. I mean, he doesn't appear to be that dumb....

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Mike Gaskey

Christian Graus wrote:

he doesn't appear to be that dumb....

hands trembling, hovering over keyboard ready to ...

Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

Oakman

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

You gotta wonder about the Marines that are stationed at the White House.

Luckily, for him, fragmentation grenades are not part of the Marine Dress Blues.

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led mike

Mike Gaskey wrote:

no, not at all.

Ok, my bad. I mixed you up with someone else. I was wrong.

Mike Gaskey wrote:

you going for an Ilion impersonation

Wouldn't know I don't read Ilion. Does he frequently quote George Carlin? Besides wouldn't that be a George Carlin impression rather than a Ilion impression?

Oakman

Christian Graus wrote:

Good idea - annoy all the people who know how to shoot a gun.

Maybe now you understand why it's not the army I figger I need a shotgun for. ;)

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

Christian Graus

LOL - by dumb, I mean politically dumb. I mean unable to read the mood of the people.

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Lost User

I thought you guys were against public health care?

Christian Graus

My family visited the grassy knoll while in Dallas ( I'd been before ). It was interesting. I'm not sure what I believe anymore, I feel like I'm too far removed from the event to trust the sources that have a vested interest in making me believe it was more than Oswald. I was at a family BBQ the other day where people were talking about how there was a conspiracy, amazing how after all this time, people still are that interested. I do suspect that you're right, I just feel it's hard to judge, especially when there's a whole industry surrounding the event ( we were sold a newspaper for $8 to tell us the 'truth' about what happened, when standing on the knoll )

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Christian Graus

*grin* To be fair, they are for employer funded health care, and the government was the soldiers employer.

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Ed Gadziemski

I didn't think it was possible in "The Back Room". Or is it only ratings that are disabled? :) Irony was, of course, intended. I'm a vet and I think line-of-duty injuries should be fully covered by VA for as long as it takes to cure or for life if need be.

Lost User

Christian Graus wrote:

To be fair, they are for employer funded health care, and the government was the soldiers employer.

So if the government paid for private health care they'd get their choice of service provider rather than dealing with the wait for a VA hospital which I understand can be very long (much like the waiting lists for public health care here) and they'd be putting money into the free market.

Lost User

I don't understand how health insurance works in the US generally - but he isn't saying (according to the article_) that he wants the ex-servicepeople to pay, but for insurance companies to pay. Who pays for the premiums, for any excess? Of course, if $504m can be saved by this change, either it is being administered very badly, fraudulently, or he is expecting servicemen to cough up the $504m - which, one would think, would be no only politicl suicide, but suicide for so smalla (comparitive) saving.

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Rob Graham

Indeed. it is moot.