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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Are you sure they aren't trying to palm you off with a cheap, flat-screen TV?

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    leppie
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    Looks like it. I am starting to get worried. - crap screen - out of production hard drive - el cheapo CPU - probably slow ram I did notice builds were slow...

    xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
    IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
    ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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    • R Robert Royall

      That or got an LCD TV instead of a monitor... I whipped up a WPF demo for my boss last year to display on his 50" LCD TV that had the same resolution. I ended up having to work on it from home because I have a personal widescreen laptop (1440 x 900) while my work monitor only goes up to 1280 x 1024 and kept cutting off the edges of the app.

      Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river which gets slightly wider every day; sometimes it shrinks but nobody can predict when. Your client provides no concrete or steel, only timber and cut stone (but they won't tell you what kind). The coefficient of gravity changes randomly from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer

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      ToddHileHoffer
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      Crazy. My work gave me a crappy 19 inch square monitor. I went out and purchased a 22 inch 1680X1050 monitor. My boss got the company to reimburse me. I can't work without dual monitors. I need one for Visual Studio and Another for Query Analyzer! The SQL monitor as I refer to it can be square but the VS monitor has to be wide screen.

      I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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      • D Dan Neely

        Dell with a dock here. Sadly the 2nd port is digital only, or I'd've been able to swap my lcd with a second high res CRT a few years ago. :((

        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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        bulg
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        I've never seen a DVI-D connector on a monitor port, always DVI-I, which supports analog & digital. What's the model# ?

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          I've never seen a DVI-D connector on a monitor port, always DVI-I, which supports analog & digital. What's the model# ?

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          Dan Neely
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          standard D series dock (no internal expansion slot). It has 1 analog vga port and one 1 DVI-D. I believe it is this model: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Docking_Station/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=gen&sku=310-7704&~lt=popup&~ck=XYRelated[^] and I was shocked to discover it was a DVI-D port myself.

          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            Are you sure they aren't trying to palm you off with a cheap, flat-screen TV?

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Dan Neely
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            defacto yes. I've noticed that the 1366x768 lcd seems to be replacing the 1280x800/1024 as the bottom of the barrel screen; presumably because it is the same part as in cheapo tvs. the good is that it's higher res than the standard crap laptop lcd. The bad it's worse than the standard crap desktop lcd, and widescreen sucks for reading text fullscreen because of the lower number of lines shown. (unless high enough res to do two pages side by side).

            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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            • D Dan Neely

              sounds like a failure to adequately define your requirements. A few months ago IT came around to everyone who still had a CRT and asked if they could replace my 18" CRT with an LCD. My response "not unless you can provide a replacement with equal or greater resolution". "How about an LCD like the one sitting next to it (pointed at a 19" 1280x1024 POS". "I run the CRT at 1600x1200, 1680x1050 would still be a downgrade; If you've got extra good panels around I'd consider swapping out the low res LCD for something more capable..." I'm still using my two old monitors. :/

              Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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              Stuart Dootson
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              They couldn't even get you a couple of 20" LCDs? I've got three of them on my desk (two PCs), running @ 1600x1200 - and they cost maybe $200 each from HP, never mind shopping around.

              Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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              • L leppie

                Looks like it. I am starting to get worried. - crap screen - out of production hard drive - el cheapo CPU - probably slow ram I did notice builds were slow...

                xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                Stuart Dootson
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                It's ridiculous when you cost a decent spec PC in terms of your cost/hour to the company. Our last upgrade got us 2.4GHz Core 2 Duos, 4GB RAM, 2x20" monitors, all for approximately 1 man-week (i.e. well under £2k) per developer.

                Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                • S Stuart Dootson

                  They couldn't even get you a couple of 20" LCDs? I've got three of them on my desk (two PCs), running @ 1600x1200 - and they cost maybe $200 each from HP, never mind shopping around.

                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                  Dan Neely
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                  I'm not certain but since the current new minion level employee is given a 22" 1680x1050 LCD (and was previously given a 20" at the same res), the fact that I was offered a 19" 1280x1024 panel meant that they were trying to cycle used flatpanels they'd collected from employees who ether left or were promoted and given a 24" as a reward to take same of the CRTs still in use out of action. Had they been adamant about retiring all the CRTs now I'd've kicked up a storm and insisted on one of the 20" panels (*VA type, vs the TN of the 22's). As it is, a healthy CRT looks better to me than anything less than an IPS lcds. The color issues of lesser panels bother me far more than any difference in sharpness/other crt distortions, unfortunately IPS panels aren't cheap. :(( I've got 2 NEC 2090uxi's (20", IPS, 1600x1200) at home, but only because I was able to get factory refurbs for $270 each vs $800 new.

                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                  • S Stuart Dootson

                    It's ridiculous when you cost a decent spec PC in terms of your cost/hour to the company. Our last upgrade got us 2.4GHz Core 2 Duos, 4GB RAM, 2x20" monitors, all for approximately 1 man-week (i.e. well under £2k) per developer.

                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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                    Dan Neely
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                    agree, unfortunately bean counters have taken over my company. ~15 years ago, only WTF!!!!'s from administrative staff stopped a plan to put $bigbucks SGI boxes on *everyones* desktop. Now they've moved to a 4 year laptop life cycle and are only buying midrange specs to begin with, and cheap crap for monitors.

                    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                    • L leppie

                      Pity, this nice PC does not have a dedicated GFX card, so no dual monitors either :((

                      xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                      IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                      ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                      Anthony Mushrow
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                      You could just get a USB graphics card

                      My current favourite word is: Delicious!

                      -SK Genius

                      Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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                      • A Anthony Mushrow

                        You could just get a USB graphics card

                        My current favourite word is: Delicious!

                        -SK Genius

                        Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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                        Dan Neely
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                        the pitiable bandwidth makes them suck for anything other than static text, it makes PCI cards look good. X| Assuming that USB3.0 lives up to it's hype it might become a viable option in a few years, but at present isn't viable.

                        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                        • D Dan Neely

                          the pitiable bandwidth makes them suck for anything other than static text, it makes PCI cards look good. X| Assuming that USB3.0 lives up to it's hype it might become a viable option in a few years, but at present isn't viable.

                          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                          Anthony Mushrow
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                          I heard they where alight, although only for general computing tasks. No games or anything.

                          My current favourite word is: Delicious!

                          -SK Genius

                          Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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                          • A Anthony Mushrow

                            I heard they where alight, although only for general computing tasks. No games or anything.

                            My current favourite word is: Delicious!

                            -SK Genius

                            Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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                            Dan Neely
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                            I'd been told they lagged noticeably on such highly gpu intensive actions as scrolling a page.

                            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                              Didn't xacc.ide used bitstream (because that's probably how I learned about bitstream).

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                              leppie
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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                              Didn't xacc.ide used bitstream

                              I think I might have included it as a backup font IIRC, jeez it's been so many years... I hardly spend time on it since VS2008 finally caught up (and decided to give away their IDE for free).

                              xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                              IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                              ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                              • H Henry Minute

                                ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                                Is this 1998? Did you go back 10 11 years in time

                                There, fixed that for you. :)

                                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                leppie
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                                Henry Minute wrote:

                                Did you go back 11 years in time

                                Great if I could be 23 again! (my GF would still be younger than me ;P )

                                xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                                ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                                • L leppie

                                  So I got my laptop replacement desktop today. Nice fast CPU/harddisk. Screen not so nice. 19" Wide Samsung N933 (not sure about that model nr, but the link is correct)[^] , with a shocking resolution of 1360 x 768. That equates to 35 lines of code you can see on screen, and a 80DPI :sigh: Update: my font size is already 9pt Consolas. The font degrades when going smaller than that :( Update 2: Ahh crap! Looks like the CPU is an el cheapo too... http://techgage.com/article/intel_pentium_dual-core_e5200/3[^] :sigh:

                                  xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                  IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                                  ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

                                  modified on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:00 PM

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  leppie wrote:

                                  Update: my font size is already 9pt Consolas.

                                  That's a great combo on my laptop with 1280x800.

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                                  • D Dan Neely

                                    standard D series dock (no internal expansion slot). It has 1 analog vga port and one 1 DVI-D. I believe it is this model: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Docking_Station/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=gen&sku=310-7704&~lt=popup&~ck=XYRelated[^] and I was shocked to discover it was a DVI-D port myself.

                                    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                    bulg
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                                    aye wtf, that link states several times it has a "DVI" port. It is so hard to get people to produce accurate data for websites.

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                                    • L leppie

                                      Henry Minute wrote:

                                      Did you go back 11 years in time

                                      Great if I could be 23 again! (my GF would still be younger than me ;P )

                                      xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                      IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                                      ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                                      Henry Minute
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                                      leppie wrote:

                                      Great if I could be 23 again

                                      If I knew then what I know now. I'd have been unbearable. :-D

                                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                        Looks like it. I am starting to get worried. - crap screen - out of production hard drive - el cheapo CPU - probably slow ram I did notice builds were slow...

                                        xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                        IronScheme - 1.0 beta 2 - out now!
                                        ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        Look on the bright side -- any code you write, which works OK on your "new" machine, will go like sh*t off a shovel on your customers' machines!

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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