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  • R rastaVnuce

    Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

    To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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    Doug Goulden
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    Mattel makes excellent computers ......

    Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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      Only you can answer those questions. Do you want to pay for a Mac AND a Windows license, and then fight with a VM application so you can still write code?

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      rastaVnuce
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      I don't need Windows. Currently I'm using Linux. It's purpose (besides Code Project) would be C++ development. No Windows, no MS tools needed.

      To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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        Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

        To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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        Chris Maunder
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        Researcher cracks Mac in 10 seconds at PWN2OWN, wins $5K[^] But aside from that (and the Win7 crack that article mentions) you need to work out who will be using the machine and why. I have a Mac and it's the last one I'm ever getting. Others find it far more intuitive than Windows but personally I find it infuriating: It uses the 'it's so obvious we don't need to provide help' system of providing help. And sometimes it really isn't obvious. And the docking bar always getting in the way of trying to resize a window because you can only resize from the bottom right hand corner thing kills me. But iPhoto, iDvd etc work great (though Picasso from Google is pretty damn good too) and Macs can run Windows, so you get a nice looking laptop (with the odd keyboard) to run your Windows apps and have a test bed for when testing against Mac. The thing that kills me though is the cost of the things. Compared to what you can get for your money elsewhere they are simply not good value for money.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        • R rastaVnuce

          Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

          To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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          DaveyM69
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          They don't come pre installed with Vista - that's enough for CG :-D

          Dave
          BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
          Visual Basic is not used by normal people so we're not covering it here. (Uncyclopedia)

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          • R rastaVnuce

            Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

            To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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            Stuart Dootson
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            Well, I don't give a rats ass if I do come over as an Apple fanboy, so here we go.

            rastaVnuce wrote:

            Are Macs worth the extra money?

            That's very subjective - it all depends what you're looking for from your computer. I originally got a Mac (a G4 iBook) because I had a specific opportunity that let me get it for a good price. It was slow (a 1.42GHz G4 PowerPC is like a Celeron, only slower), but it worked, it didn't crash (the only time it did was when the motherboard went a bit wacko), various things that irritated me when using Windows (wi-fi, for one) didn't irritate me on OS X (to use the oft-quoted phrase, it just worked!). And yes, it's nicely designed, with clean lines etc. But anyway - the combination of hardware and OS (especially the OS) suited what I wanted from the computer - I pretty soon decided there was no way I was going back to Windows full time outside of work. The only thing I wanted was more power...which I got when I bought my MacBook Pro. Expensive...yes. Worth it? For me, yes. Even though it doesn't match my curtains - I don't (yet?) have aluminium furnishings :-) And, of course, I can now run Windows on my Mac if I need to, as I have an Intel Mac. I've just completed three days of training on a Windows software package using Windows 7 on VMWare Fusion on my MBP. Issues? None.

            Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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            • R rastaVnuce

              Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

              To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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              Paul Watson
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              All I'll say is go try one out before buying one. Same with any computer/camera/car/girlfriend. (I use a MacBook and really like it. But, as Chris says, it is not for everyone. Also, I don't do Windows dev.)

              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                Royale with cheese? :)

                To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                ToddHileHoffer
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                Because of the metric system? :)

                I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                • R rastaVnuce

                  I don't need Windows. Currently I'm using Linux. It's purpose (besides Code Project) would be C++ development. No Windows, no MS tools needed.

                  To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                  ToddHileHoffer
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                  rastaVnuce wrote:

                  I don't need Windows. Currently I'm using Linux. It's purpose (besides Code Project) would be C++ development. No Windows, no MS tools needed.

                  You are hard core... Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

                  I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                  • R rastaVnuce

                    Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

                    To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                    ToddHileHoffer
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                    Do Apple computer's still come with a mouse with only one button?

                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                    • R rastaVnuce

                      Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

                      To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                      Todd Smith
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                      The new Dell Adamo[^] looks like a nice alternative to Apple if you don't need/want OSX.

                      Todd Smith

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                        All I'll say is go try one out before buying one. Same with any computer/camera/car/girlfriend. (I use a MacBook and really like it. But, as Chris says, it is not for everyone. Also, I don't do Windows dev.)

                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                        Tom Deketelaere
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                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        /girlfriend.

                        :-D

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                          Because of the metric system? :)

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                          PTJA
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                          African or European swallow? :-)

                          -- Jarek Andrzejewski

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                            Do Apple computer's still come with a mouse with only one button?

                            I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                            Paul Watson
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                            Actually, they have no buttons now.

                            cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                              The new Dell Adamo[^] looks like a nice alternative to Apple if you don't need/want OSX.

                              Todd Smith

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                              Paul Watson
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                              The Adamo is lovely to look at but it is a MacBook Air competitor and pretty pricey at that. I guess if you need it that thin then go for it, otherwise a 13" MacBook does well.

                              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                Paul Watson wrote:

                                /girlfriend.

                                :-D

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                                Paul Watson
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                                Always try a girlfriend out before buying a fiance.

                                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                  rastaVnuce wrote:

                                  I don't need Windows. Currently I'm using Linux. It's purpose (besides Code Project) would be C++ development. No Windows, no MS tools needed.

                                  You are hard core... Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

                                  I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                  realJSOP
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                                  ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                                  Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

                                  Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                                    Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

                                    Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    ToddHileHoffer
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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

                                    The OP hasn't spent any money yet. He is using Linux.

                                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                      Actually, they have no buttons now.

                                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                      hairy_hats
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                                      So you can just push the mouse around but not use it to click on anything? Handy. Edit for the humour-impaired univoter: It was a joke. Or did you seriously believe that I thought that Apple invented a mouse that you couldn't click with? :rolleyes:


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                                        So you can just push the mouse around but not use it to click on anything? Handy. Edit for the humour-impaired univoter: It was a joke. Or did you seriously believe that I thought that Apple invented a mouse that you couldn't click with? :rolleyes:


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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        Yes, that is exactly it. Well done.

                                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                          Actually, they have no buttons now.

                                          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                          ToddHileHoffer
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                                          Seriously? How the heck does that work?

                                          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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