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  • R rastaVnuce

    Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

    To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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    Stuart Dootson
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    Well, I don't give a rats ass if I do come over as an Apple fanboy, so here we go.

    rastaVnuce wrote:

    Are Macs worth the extra money?

    That's very subjective - it all depends what you're looking for from your computer. I originally got a Mac (a G4 iBook) because I had a specific opportunity that let me get it for a good price. It was slow (a 1.42GHz G4 PowerPC is like a Celeron, only slower), but it worked, it didn't crash (the only time it did was when the motherboard went a bit wacko), various things that irritated me when using Windows (wi-fi, for one) didn't irritate me on OS X (to use the oft-quoted phrase, it just worked!). And yes, it's nicely designed, with clean lines etc. But anyway - the combination of hardware and OS (especially the OS) suited what I wanted from the computer - I pretty soon decided there was no way I was going back to Windows full time outside of work. The only thing I wanted was more power...which I got when I bought my MacBook Pro. Expensive...yes. Worth it? For me, yes. Even though it doesn't match my curtains - I don't (yet?) have aluminium furnishings :-) And, of course, I can now run Windows on my Mac if I need to, as I have an Intel Mac. I've just completed three days of training on a Windows software package using Windows 7 on VMWare Fusion on my MBP. Issues? None.

    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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    • R rastaVnuce

      Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

      To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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      Paul Watson
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      All I'll say is go try one out before buying one. Same with any computer/camera/car/girlfriend. (I use a MacBook and really like it. But, as Chris says, it is not for everyone. Also, I don't do Windows dev.)

      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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      • R rastaVnuce

        Royale with cheese? :)

        To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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        ToddHileHoffer
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        Because of the metric system? :)

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        • R rastaVnuce

          I don't need Windows. Currently I'm using Linux. It's purpose (besides Code Project) would be C++ development. No Windows, no MS tools needed.

          To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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          ToddHileHoffer
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          rastaVnuce wrote:

          I don't need Windows. Currently I'm using Linux. It's purpose (besides Code Project) would be C++ development. No Windows, no MS tools needed.

          You are hard core... Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

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          • R rastaVnuce

            Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

            To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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            ToddHileHoffer
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            Do Apple computer's still come with a mouse with only one button?

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            • R rastaVnuce

              Since my experience with Macs is completely non existent, I have this question: Are Macs worth the extra money? And if they are, why?

              To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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              Todd Smith
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              The new Dell Adamo[^] looks like a nice alternative to Apple if you don't need/want OSX.

              Todd Smith

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              • P Paul Watson

                All I'll say is go try one out before buying one. Same with any computer/camera/car/girlfriend. (I use a MacBook and really like it. But, as Chris says, it is not for everyone. Also, I don't do Windows dev.)

                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                Tom Deketelaere
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                Paul Watson wrote:

                /girlfriend.

                :-D

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                • T ToddHileHoffer

                  Because of the metric system? :)

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                  PTJA
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                  African or European swallow? :-)

                  -- Jarek Andrzejewski

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                  • T ToddHileHoffer

                    Do Apple computer's still come with a mouse with only one button?

                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Actually, they have no buttons now.

                    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                    • T Todd Smith

                      The new Dell Adamo[^] looks like a nice alternative to Apple if you don't need/want OSX.

                      Todd Smith

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                      Paul Watson
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                      The Adamo is lovely to look at but it is a MacBook Air competitor and pretty pricey at that. I guess if you need it that thin then go for it, otherwise a 13" MacBook does well.

                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                      • T Tom Deketelaere

                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        /girlfriend.

                        :-D

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                        Paul Watson
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                        Always try a girlfriend out before buying a fiance.

                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                        • T ToddHileHoffer

                          rastaVnuce wrote:

                          I don't need Windows. Currently I'm using Linux. It's purpose (besides Code Project) would be C++ development. No Windows, no MS tools needed.

                          You are hard core... Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

                          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                          ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                          Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

                          Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            Actually, they have no buttons now.

                            cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                            hairy_hats
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                            So you can just push the mouse around but not use it to click on anything? Handy. Edit for the humour-impaired univoter: It was a joke. Or did you seriously believe that I thought that Apple invented a mouse that you couldn't click with? :rolleyes:


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                              ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                              Why don't you wait for Windows 7 and give that a whirl?

                              Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              ToddHileHoffer
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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              Because that would be like buying Expression Blend... paying more money for something that is just a little less crappy than what you spent money on previously.

                              The OP hasn't spent any money yet. He is using Linux.

                              I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                So you can just push the mouse around but not use it to click on anything? Handy. Edit for the humour-impaired univoter: It was a joke. Or did you seriously believe that I thought that Apple invented a mouse that you couldn't click with? :rolleyes:


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                                Paul Watson
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                                Yes, that is exactly it. Well done.

                                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                  Actually, they have no buttons now.

                                  cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                  ToddHileHoffer
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                                  Seriously? How the heck does that work?

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                                  • T ToddHileHoffer

                                    Seriously? How the heck does that work?

                                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                    hairy_hats
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                                    IIRC pushing down on it makes it click.

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                                      IIRC pushing down on it makes it click.

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                                      ToddHileHoffer
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                                      That is just weird.

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                                      • T ToddHileHoffer

                                        Seriously? How the heck does that work?

                                        I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        On the laptops the trackpad is one big button, press near the bottom and it depresses a bit with a nice click sound (physical, not out of the speakers.) You can see a video of it here[^]. Sounds odd but it works very well in practice, I can't bear going back even to older MacBooks with the physically separate buttons. With the Mighty Mouse the whole chassis leans forward for a click. Tilt left for a left click, tilt right for a right click.

                                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                          African or European swallow? :-)

                                          -- Jarek Andrzejewski

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                                          ToddHileHoffer
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                                          PTJA wrote:

                                          African or European swallow? Smile

                                          Shouldn't you have said, "Check out the big brain on Brad!"? I have no idea what you are referencing.

                                          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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