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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    ...as to why Microsoft saw fit to change (arbitrarily, it seems) the properties for WPF controls. Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content, and instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled. It's almost as if they're introducing an artificial and arbitrary learning curve. Is there a book or web site that talks about the differences in ALL the controls regarding WPF vs WinForms)? And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5? And imagine my surprise to find out that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

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    Nish Nishant
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    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content

    The WPF equivalent of the WinForms Label control is actually TextBlock (which has a Text property). The WPF Label is actually a heavier more complex control - so wherever you used a Label in WinForms, in WPF you should be using TextBlock.

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      in that case; because datagrid was a steaming pile of fail and they wanted to make as clean break as possible.

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      So what do you use instead of Datagrid?

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content

        The WPF equivalent of the WinForms Label control is actually TextBlock (which has a Text property). The WPF Label is actually a heavier more complex control - so wherever you used a Label in WinForms, in WPF you should be using TextBlock.

        Regards, Nish


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        Michael Bookatz
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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        The WPF equivalent of the WinForms Label control is actually TextBlock (which has a Text property). The WPF Label is actually a heavier more complex control - so wherever you used a Label in WinForms, in WPF you should be using TextBlock.

        SO why not have the new heavier control called TextBlock a new name not used before! Why confuse what everyone knows to be the standard!

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          ...as to why Microsoft saw fit to change (arbitrarily, it seems) the properties for WPF controls. Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content, and instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled. It's almost as if they're introducing an artificial and arbitrary learning curve. Is there a book or web site that talks about the differences in ALL the controls regarding WPF vs WinForms)? And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5? And imagine my surprise to find out that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          of Label.Text, we have Label.Content

          Presumably becuase it can (or might in the future) have "non-text" stuff in it (HTML etc) *

          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabed

          This one makes sense to me. Enable is a verb (method) wheras IsEnabled is a state (property) * I don't do any WPF work, so the control may already support formatted content for all I know.

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            ...as to why Microsoft saw fit to change (arbitrarily, it seems) the properties for WPF controls. Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content, and instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled. It's almost as if they're introducing an artificial and arbitrary learning curve. Is there a book or web site that talks about the differences in ALL the controls regarding WPF vs WinForms)? And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5? And imagine my surprise to find out that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
            -----
            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content

            That's because the Label is not restricted to only to text. It can contain arbitary content.

            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled.

            No idea on that one.

            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5?

            It's there. You need to look at the right "Application".

            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

            For the same reason you had to use System.WIndows.Timer in windows forms or use SetTimer in MFC (as opposed to CreateTimerQueuTimer).

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              ...as to why Microsoft saw fit to change (arbitrarily, it seems) the properties for WPF controls. Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content, and instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled. It's almost as if they're introducing an artificial and arbitrary learning curve. Is there a book or web site that talks about the differences in ALL the controls regarding WPF vs WinForms)? And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5? And imagine my surprise to find out that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              It is because composition is a big part of WPF. Between a WPF label's opening and closing tag you can have not only text but any content like images etc. Therefore a property name of Content makes more sense.


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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content

                That's because the Label is not restricted to only to text. It can contain arbitary content.

                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled.

                No idea on that one.

                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5?

                It's there. You need to look at the right "Application".

                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

                For the same reason you had to use System.WIndows.Timer in windows forms or use SetTimer in MFC (as opposed to CreateTimerQueuTimer).

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                Nish Nishant
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                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                It's there. You need to look at the right "Application".

                Rama, do you mean the one in System.Windows? If so, it doesn't have a StartupPath property. Or is there a different one available in some other assembly/namespace?

                Regards, Nish


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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  ...as to why Microsoft saw fit to change (arbitrarily, it seems) the properties for WPF controls. Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content, and instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled. It's almost as if they're introducing an artificial and arbitrary learning curve. Is there a book or web site that talks about the differences in ALL the controls regarding WPF vs WinForms)? And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5? And imagine my surprise to find out that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5?

                  You can still use it - but you have to add a reference to System.Windows.Forms - it's a Forms method.

                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                    It's there. You need to look at the right "Application".

                    Rama, do you mean the one in System.Windows? If so, it doesn't have a StartupPath property. Or is there a different one available in some other assembly/namespace?

                    Regards, Nish


                    Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                    My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    Rama, do you mean the one in System.Windows? If so, it doesn't have a StartupPath property. Or is there a different one available in some other assembly/namespace?

                    See my answer below.

                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      ...as to why Microsoft saw fit to change (arbitrarily, it seems) the properties for WPF controls. Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content, and instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled. It's almost as if they're introducing an artificial and arbitrary learning curve. Is there a book or web site that talks about the differences in ALL the controls regarding WPF vs WinForms)? And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5? And imagine my surprise to find out that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      For the same reason the Winforms Webbrowser changed from Text to DocumenText. X|

                      Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                        It's there. You need to look at the right "Application".

                        Rama, do you mean the one in System.Windows? If so, it doesn't have a StartupPath property. Or is there a different one available in some other assembly/namespace?

                        Regards, Nish


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                        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                        John is probably confused between System.Windows.Forms.Application (WinForms + has StartupPath) and System.Windows.Application (WPF). Both are different.

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                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5?

                          You can still use it - but you have to add a reference to System.Windows.Forms - it's a Forms method.

                          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          You can still use it - but you have to add a reference to System.Windows.Forms - it's a Forms method.

                          Nice, though I probably won't do it that way to avoid the WinForms reference. That just uses GetModuleFileName anyway.

                          Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            John is probably confused between System.Windows.Forms.Application (WinForms + has StartupPath) and System.Windows.Application (WPF). Both are different.

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                            John is probably confused between System.Windows.Forms.Application (WinForms + has StartupPath) and System.Windows.Application (WPF). Both are different.

                            Ah okay. You meant that he didn't realize that this is a whole new class.

                            Regards, Nish


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                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              You can still use it - but you have to add a reference to System.Windows.Forms - it's a Forms method.

                              Nice, though I probably won't do it that way to avoid the WinForms reference. That just uses GetModuleFileName anyway.

                              Regards, Nish


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                              Indeed - I actually use this:

                              public static class Utility
                              {
                              [DllImport("kernel32.dll", CharSet = CharSet.Auto)]
                              public static extern int GetModuleFileName(HandleRef hModule, StringBuilder buffer, int length);

                              private static string startupPath;
                              private static HandleRef NullHandleRef = new HandleRef();

                              public static string StartupPath()
                              {
                              if (startupPath == null)
                              {
                              StringBuilder buffer = new StringBuilder(260);
                              GetModuleFileName(NullHandleRef, buffer, buffer.Capacity);
                              startupPath = Path.GetDirectoryName(buffer.ToString());
                              }
                              new FileIOPermission(FileIOPermissionAccess.PathDiscovery, startupPath).Demand();
                              return startupPath;
                              }
                              }

                              God bless Reflector.

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                                So what do you use instead of Datagrid?

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                                DataGridView. DataGrid was the 1.0 framework attempt at the same. it sucked massively.

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                                  ...as to why Microsoft saw fit to change (arbitrarily, it seems) the properties for WPF controls. Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content, and instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled. It's almost as if they're introducing an artificial and arbitrary learning curve. Is there a book or web site that talks about the differences in ALL the controls regarding WPF vs WinForms)? And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5? And imagine my surprise to find out that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  Developed by a different team. Such differences are usually a mix of different style guide lines (e.g. "All boolean properties should start with Is, Are, or Can"), different tastes ("X always irked me, I'd prefer Y"), and ignorance ("We are the cool guys, why should we know WinForms at all?")

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                                    DataGridView. DataGrid was the 1.0 framework attempt at the same. it sucked massively.

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                                    The data grid was serviceable at best. The Gridview was completely redone. Many of the changes seemed logical rather than arbitrary.

                                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                    • M Michael Bookatz

                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      The WPF equivalent of the WinForms Label control is actually TextBlock (which has a Text property). The WPF Label is actually a heavier more complex control - so wherever you used a Label in WinForms, in WPF you should be using TextBlock.

                                      SO why not have the new heavier control called TextBlock a new name not used before! Why confuse what everyone knows to be the standard!

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                                      cpkilekofp
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                                      To see if you're actually paying attention, of course! :D

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        ...as to why Microsoft saw fit to change (arbitrarily, it seems) the properties for WPF controls. Instead of Label.Text, we have Label.Content, and instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabled. It's almost as if they're introducing an artificial and arbitrary learning curve. Is there a book or web site that talks about the differences in ALL the controls regarding WPF vs WinForms)? And while I'm complaining, WTF happened to Application.StartupPath in .Net 3.5? And imagine my surprise to find out that I have to use the DispatchTimer class instead of the System.Timers.Timer class...

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        Winforms and WPF are different frameworks. WPF is not an upgrade or new version of winforms. Why should one act like the other in any way? The content property (like others have said) can contain more that just text so naming it Text because of some obscure relationship with a totally different framework would be crazy.

                                        Simon

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                                        • E Electron Shepherd

                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          of Label.Text, we have Label.Content

                                          Presumably becuase it can (or might in the future) have "non-text" stuff in it (HTML etc) *

                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabed

                                          This one makes sense to me. Enable is a verb (method) wheras IsEnabled is a state (property) * I don't do any WPF work, so the control may already support formatted content for all I know.

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                                          Electron Shepherd wrote:

                                          instead of Control.Enable, we got Control.IsEnabed This one makes sense to me. Enable is a verb (method) wheras IsEnabled is a state (property)

                                          Agreed on that, but I think John meant to say '.Enabled' vs '.IsEnabled', in which case both are clearly states. I've never come across a bool called 'Enable' on a control, but the word could server a valid purpose in the sense of a 'command' flag, meaning 'you must enable this control', vs. 'this control is enabled'.

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