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Is IE8 the Vista of web browsers?

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  • C Christopher Duncan

    There's a site I visit via ssl that apparently has both secure and non secure content being displayed. I know this because IE8 throws a message box in my face each and every time I visit warning me of this. Yeah. I get it. They're trying to help me make my browsing more secure (or at least promote a little plausible deniability). However, this is a site I trust, so I'd like to disable this annoying warning. Either for this site or for good. But neither option appears to exist. I simply have to live with MS doing the Will Robinson thing each and every time I go there. Is this the new Vista like way of doing things? Annoy the crap out of your users for their own good, without giving us any way of controlling the experience. Why does UAC come to mind? Of course, ultimately the solution was simple. I just use Firefox for that site. These guys really live in their own little world, don't they?

    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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    Ray Cassick
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    Doesn't adding the site as a trusted site accomplish this?


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      Doesn't adding the site as a trusted site accomplish this?


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      Christopher Duncan
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      Nope. You still get the message box popping up.

      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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        Doesn't adding the site as a trusted site accomplish this?


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        Mark_Wallace
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        Adding trusted sites can make things worse. Then you get additional messages: " is trying to open a site in your trusted sites list" The only response to those messages is: "Well, open the ****ing thing, then!"

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Adding trusted sites can make things worse. Then you get additional messages: " is trying to open a site in your trusted sites list" The only response to those messages is: "Well, open the ****ing thing, then!"

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Yeah, especially if you are moving from a non-trusted site to a trusted one... It sounds like IE8 behaves a lot like IE7 does on Windows 2003 server.


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          • C Christopher Duncan

            There's a site I visit via ssl that apparently has both secure and non secure content being displayed. I know this because IE8 throws a message box in my face each and every time I visit warning me of this. Yeah. I get it. They're trying to help me make my browsing more secure (or at least promote a little plausible deniability). However, this is a site I trust, so I'd like to disable this annoying warning. Either for this site or for good. But neither option appears to exist. I simply have to live with MS doing the Will Robinson thing each and every time I go there. Is this the new Vista like way of doing things? Annoy the crap out of your users for their own good, without giving us any way of controlling the experience. Why does UAC come to mind? Of course, ultimately the solution was simple. I just use Firefox for that site. These guys really live in their own little world, don't they?

            Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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            Dave Parker
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            Think I'll avoid it and stick with Firefox. Loads of sites I visit have the same warning (but in other browsers there's an option to switch the message off).

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              There's a site I visit via ssl that apparently has both secure and non secure content being displayed. I know this because IE8 throws a message box in my face each and every time I visit warning me of this. Yeah. I get it. They're trying to help me make my browsing more secure (or at least promote a little plausible deniability). However, this is a site I trust, so I'd like to disable this annoying warning. Either for this site or for good. But neither option appears to exist. I simply have to live with MS doing the Will Robinson thing each and every time I go there. Is this the new Vista like way of doing things? Annoy the crap out of your users for their own good, without giving us any way of controlling the experience. Why does UAC come to mind? Of course, ultimately the solution was simple. I just use Firefox for that site. These guys really live in their own little world, don't they?

              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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              Damir Valiulin
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              I have been dual booting to Windows 7 for a while now on my development machine and I've used IE8 quite a lot. It seems like every 3rd website needs "Compatibility View" turned on to display correctly in IE8. Are they seriously thinking everyone is going jump at it to fix their sites for IE8? How about fixing your browser to work right out of the box with every site!

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              • C Christopher Duncan

                There's a site I visit via ssl that apparently has both secure and non secure content being displayed. I know this because IE8 throws a message box in my face each and every time I visit warning me of this. Yeah. I get it. They're trying to help me make my browsing more secure (or at least promote a little plausible deniability). However, this is a site I trust, so I'd like to disable this annoying warning. Either for this site or for good. But neither option appears to exist. I simply have to live with MS doing the Will Robinson thing each and every time I go there. Is this the new Vista like way of doing things? Annoy the crap out of your users for their own good, without giving us any way of controlling the experience. Why does UAC come to mind? Of course, ultimately the solution was simple. I just use Firefox for that site. These guys really live in their own little world, don't they?

                Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                Chrome does not do that. ;P Jokes apart you can change that behavior in the security settings for the internet zone. As shown in the image below: IEProb.JPG (48.3 KB)

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                • C Christopher Duncan

                  There's a site I visit via ssl that apparently has both secure and non secure content being displayed. I know this because IE8 throws a message box in my face each and every time I visit warning me of this. Yeah. I get it. They're trying to help me make my browsing more secure (or at least promote a little plausible deniability). However, this is a site I trust, so I'd like to disable this annoying warning. Either for this site or for good. But neither option appears to exist. I simply have to live with MS doing the Will Robinson thing each and every time I go there. Is this the new Vista like way of doing things? Annoy the crap out of your users for their own good, without giving us any way of controlling the experience. Why does UAC come to mind? Of course, ultimately the solution was simple. I just use Firefox for that site. These guys really live in their own little world, don't they?

                  Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  This was in IE6 and 7 as well (if I remember rightly). Now follow carefully: 1. Find the Tools menu. I'll go grab a coffee while you're looking for it. 2. Select Internet Options 3. Hit the 'Security' tab 4. Select the 'Custom level...' 5. Scroll down the list until you find the 'Miscellaneous' section 6. If you are brave and promise not to sue me if it causes The End Of The World For Your Computer, then find the 'Display Mixed Content' and select 'Enable'. 7. Hit 'OK' about 37 times. Now give it a try. People think IE is a bloated mess with confusing and hard to find settings. I think that's harsh and uncalled for.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    I have been dual booting to Windows 7 for a while now on my development machine and I've used IE8 quite a lot. It seems like every 3rd website needs "Compatibility View" turned on to display correctly in IE8. Are they seriously thinking everyone is going jump at it to fix their sites for IE8? How about fixing your browser to work right out of the box with every site!

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Damir Valiulin wrote:

                    Are they seriously thinking everyone is going jump at it to fix their sites for IE8? How about fixing your browser to work right out of the box with every site!

                    While I certainly agree with you in principle, i.e. just make the darned thing work, my understanding (which could be seriously flawed) is that IE has never been particularly standards compliant like Firefox & others, and thus developers have had to hack their sites here and there to play nice with the non standard aspects of IE. I think IE8 is supposed to lean more in the direction of standards, which of course would break the previous hacks we had to do. Basically, either way you go, you're kinda screwed.

                    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                      Chrome does not do that. ;P Jokes apart you can change that behavior in the security settings for the internet zone. As shown in the image below: IEProb.JPG (48.3 KB)

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                      Christopher Duncan
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                      Thanks!

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        This was in IE6 and 7 as well (if I remember rightly). Now follow carefully: 1. Find the Tools menu. I'll go grab a coffee while you're looking for it. 2. Select Internet Options 3. Hit the 'Security' tab 4. Select the 'Custom level...' 5. Scroll down the list until you find the 'Miscellaneous' section 6. If you are brave and promise not to sue me if it causes The End Of The World For Your Computer, then find the 'Display Mixed Content' and select 'Enable'. 7. Hit 'OK' about 37 times. Now give it a try. People think IE is a bloated mess with confusing and hard to find settings. I think that's harsh and uncalled for.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        Christopher Duncan
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                        Gosh, I feel so inadequate and stupid to have overlooked these options in such a well thought out and intuitive UI. Clearly, Microsoft intended their products to be used by a more intelligent class of creature than myself. Curiously, I never got this Will Robinson with either IE6 or 7. It's possible that I tweaked this setting in the past and in my traumatized state afterwards purged it from my memory. It's equally possible that the IE8 install decided to set things back to "where they should be" without telling me. I don't know which scenario I find more disturbing.

                        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                        • C Christopher Duncan

                          There's a site I visit via ssl that apparently has both secure and non secure content being displayed. I know this because IE8 throws a message box in my face each and every time I visit warning me of this. Yeah. I get it. They're trying to help me make my browsing more secure (or at least promote a little plausible deniability). However, this is a site I trust, so I'd like to disable this annoying warning. Either for this site or for good. But neither option appears to exist. I simply have to live with MS doing the Will Robinson thing each and every time I go there. Is this the new Vista like way of doing things? Annoy the crap out of your users for their own good, without giving us any way of controlling the experience. Why does UAC come to mind? Of course, ultimately the solution was simple. I just use Firefox for that site. These guys really live in their own little world, don't they?

                          Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                          I know this because IE8 throws....

                          Whoa there big fella! Weren't you the one dissing Chrome the other day and relegating it to VM testing only? And you chose to install and use IE8? Ouch! Who are you and what have you done with the radical, anti-establishment, take this suit and tie and shove it Chris Duncan we all know and love?

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                            Christopher Duncan wrote:

                            I know this because IE8 throws....

                            Whoa there big fella! Weren't you the one dissing Chrome the other day and relegating it to VM testing only? And you chose to install and use IE8? Ouch! Who are you and what have you done with the radical, anti-establishment, take this suit and tie and shove it Chris Duncan we all know and love?

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                            Christopher Duncan
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                            :laugh: Sorry. I had a brief drug flashback. Remember, the 70s were very good to me. I'm all better now. [twitch] Honest.

                            Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                              I have been dual booting to Windows 7 for a while now on my development machine and I've used IE8 quite a lot. It seems like every 3rd website needs "Compatibility View" turned on to display correctly in IE8. Are they seriously thinking everyone is going jump at it to fix their sites for IE8? How about fixing your browser to work right out of the box with every site!

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                              Damir Valiulin wrote:

                              How about fixing your browser to work right out of the box with every site!

                              I may be missing something here, but isn't that what 'Compatability View' is doing?

                              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                Gosh, I feel so inadequate and stupid to have overlooked these options in such a well thought out and intuitive UI. Clearly, Microsoft intended their products to be used by a more intelligent class of creature than myself. Curiously, I never got this Will Robinson with either IE6 or 7. It's possible that I tweaked this setting in the past and in my traumatized state afterwards purged it from my memory. It's equally possible that the IE8 install decided to set things back to "where they should be" without telling me. I don't know which scenario I find more disturbing.

                                Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                AFAI can tell, IE8 has 'helpfully' reset these options for us.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  This was in IE6 and 7 as well (if I remember rightly). Now follow carefully: 1. Find the Tools menu. I'll go grab a coffee while you're looking for it. 2. Select Internet Options 3. Hit the 'Security' tab 4. Select the 'Custom level...' 5. Scroll down the list until you find the 'Miscellaneous' section 6. If you are brave and promise not to sue me if it causes The End Of The World For Your Computer, then find the 'Display Mixed Content' and select 'Enable'. 7. Hit 'OK' about 37 times. Now give it a try. People think IE is a bloated mess with confusing and hard to find settings. I think that's harsh and uncalled for.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                                  People think IE is a bloated mess with confusing and hard to find settings. I think that's harsh and uncalled for

                                  I think all those hard to find settings are uncalled for too.

                                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                    AFAI can tell, IE8 has 'helpfully' reset these options for us.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Christopher Duncan
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                                    :doh: Where's Alice from Dilbert when you need her?

                                    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                                    • C Christopher Duncan

                                      There's a site I visit via ssl that apparently has both secure and non secure content being displayed. I know this because IE8 throws a message box in my face each and every time I visit warning me of this. Yeah. I get it. They're trying to help me make my browsing more secure (or at least promote a little plausible deniability). However, this is a site I trust, so I'd like to disable this annoying warning. Either for this site or for good. But neither option appears to exist. I simply have to live with MS doing the Will Robinson thing each and every time I go there. Is this the new Vista like way of doing things? Annoy the crap out of your users for their own good, without giving us any way of controlling the experience. Why does UAC come to mind? Of course, ultimately the solution was simple. I just use Firefox for that site. These guys really live in their own little world, don't they?

                                      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                                      I have to say I don't agree. I've found IE8 to be a big improvement over IE7. Mike

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                                        I have to say I don't agree. I've found IE8 to be a big improvement over IE7. Mike

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        I've got to agree. IE7 was the vista of browsers. IE8 is the Weven of browsers.

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                                        • C Christopher Duncan

                                          There's a site I visit via ssl that apparently has both secure and non secure content being displayed. I know this because IE8 throws a message box in my face each and every time I visit warning me of this. Yeah. I get it. They're trying to help me make my browsing more secure (or at least promote a little plausible deniability). However, this is a site I trust, so I'd like to disable this annoying warning. Either for this site or for good. But neither option appears to exist. I simply have to live with MS doing the Will Robinson thing each and every time I go there. Is this the new Vista like way of doing things? Annoy the crap out of your users for their own good, without giving us any way of controlling the experience. Why does UAC come to mind? Of course, ultimately the solution was simple. I just use Firefox for that site. These guys really live in their own little world, don't they?

                                          Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                                          lol it reminds me a lot of this comic sketch/mac ad. Security Parody[^]

                                          <>< :: have the courage to use your own reason

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