WorkPlace Ethics
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Nishant S wrote: For example we don't have even partial nudity in our movies and even kissing is shown from a long angled shot. I guess that's why India is so good at cricket, all the other fun stuff is frowned upon :-D Saying that, I'm not sure how people would react if I started kissing my coworkers (especially since they are mostly blokes). The English seem to have a problem with the friendly kiss - must be our Victorian roots showing. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
Michael P Butler wrote: The English seem to have a problem with the friendly kiss Even my kisses were friendly kisses on her cheeks. Nothing outrageously passionate about it. I like to do my passionate stuff in private. That's what made me think this place is all weird. This society I mean! Just a friendly peck on the cheeks and they go mad about it ! Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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Michael P Butler wrote: The English seem to have a problem with the friendly kiss Even my kisses were friendly kisses on her cheeks. Nothing outrageously passionate about it. I like to do my passionate stuff in private. That's what made me think this place is all weird. This society I mean! Just a friendly peck on the cheeks and they go mad about it ! Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Nishant S wrote: This society I mean! Just a friendly peck on the cheeks and they go mad about it ! You need to get yourself to France, they love doing that kind of thing. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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BB (see profile) sits on my monitor making sure everyone behaves :cool: Elaine (bear owning fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
We're not even alowed to place pictures on the desk or some other personal s(maybe silly) stuff... But I have my own way of feeling 'home': I just don't tidy my desk ;););)
Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
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Well I was once warned about public kissing! But then I guess they had a point. Other than that my work place is very relaxing :-) Except for the lack of bandwidth :-( Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
:omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg::omg: Over here in the U.S., I would get fired or sued if I kissed a coworker!
"Think of it as evolution in action." - 'Oath of Fealty' by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
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Well Do any of u have any Unconfortable/grudgy Rules in ur workplace... Well My friend always grudge abt her workplace becos they are not suppose to eat anything inside the cubicle or in office premise and so whenever she has to eat she has to do out and eat..Till now she didnt complain but since now she is pregnant :-D She feels more hungry and so she has to do lots of walking to get a bite of food ;P..I really feel pity of her... Do u too have such irritating rule......:wtf::omg: cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
super wrote: Well Do any of u have any Unconfortable/grudgy Rules in ur workplace... - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. Of course, I´m not a "employee" from the company, I´m "contracted company", so I have no "employee" rights. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:
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We're not even alowed to place pictures on the desk or some other personal s(maybe silly) stuff... But I have my own way of feeling 'home': I just don't tidy my desk ;););)
Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
:suss: :rolleyes: :suss:Got a digital camera? Come in early one morning, decorate your cube in all sorts of ways that break the rules. Then snap a picture, set the image to the background picture for your workstation, and return your cubicle to it's former undecorated state. More guerilla tactics for Corporate Stupidity... :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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super wrote: Well Do any of u have any Unconfortable/grudgy Rules in ur workplace... - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. Of course, I´m not a "employee" from the company, I´m "contracted company", so I have no "employee" rights. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:
Mauricio Ritter wrote: - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization These two are pretty much par for the course nowadays. Especially in the larger companies. Mauricio Ritter wrote: - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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Ethics and rules are two different things. I try to be a very ethical employee ( for exmample, I would not write a mag or CP article that exposes stuff proprietary to work ), but as far as rules go, where I work is pretty relaxed about things that don't matter for people who understand what does matter, and apply themselves to it. That's how it should be - we're skilled workers, not plumbers. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: Ethics and rules are two different things. Absolutely. I have very strong feelings about ethical and honorable behavior. Surprisingly, my personal code which mandates that I ignore stupid rules rarely causes an ethical conflict. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Well I was once warned about public kissing! But then I guess they had a point. Other than that my work place is very relaxing :-) Except for the lack of bandwidth :-( Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Nishant S wrote: I was once warned about public kissing! I've seen what most programmers look like. I'm not convinced this is a bad thing. :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Mauricio Ritter wrote: - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization These two are pretty much par for the course nowadays. Especially in the larger companies. Mauricio Ritter wrote: - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
Michael P Butler wrote: This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Michael P Butler wrote: This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. Sadly too true. I've worked for a few companies in my time and most management have never got it. Even after some of them have read Peopleware and Debugging the Development Process (bought for them by me), they still don't get it. Does being a senior manager blind you from the obvious. It certainly looks that way to me. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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Mauricio Ritter wrote: - You can´t use the internet for non-business purpouses (that includes personal email) - You can´t install any program in your machine without a previous authorization These two are pretty much par for the course nowadays. Especially in the larger companies. Mauricio Ritter wrote: - All activities like get some coffee on the coffee machine, go to the bathroom to brush your teeth, etc. should be discounted from your activity report and will not be remunerated. This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
Michael P Butler wrote: Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. Dead right! That's exactly the point here. I tend to work from home but if I go into the office, it's just like working from home except that they don't have an espresso machine and (rightly) I have to go outside to smoke. But we work whatever hours we like, we have a fridge, a kettle, a constant supply of coffee, milk, orange juice. Each of us have our own CD players on the desk (obviously not paid for by the company). If it's going to affect anyone else we use headphones but the office is generally arranged so that people with the same tastes in music sit near each other so it's rarely necessary. We can use the internet for whatever we like, even when the boss is watching, as long as it never makes things slow for customer downloads. If I've finished what I'm doing one day then I leave at whatever time I want with no questions asked, so I never have to sit around pretending to work because there's no point in me starting the next job for half an hour. The potential for abuse is remarkable but I've never worked with a more productive group in my life. Trust your workers and they don't have to spend time trying to figure out ways around the system. Paul
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Michael P Butler wrote: This is the kind of stuff really pisses me off. When will companies start treating their staff as human beings. Don't they realise a happy content worker will be more productive. When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: When pigs fly, or management inherits a clue. Whichever comes first. Personally, my money is on the pigs. I bet on the pigs too. :laugh::rolleyes: Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:
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Got a digital camera? Come in early one morning, decorate your cube in all sorts of ways that break the rules. Then snap a picture, set the image to the background picture for your workstation, and return your cubicle to it's former undecorated state. More guerilla tactics for Corporate Stupidity... :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
Christopher Duncan wrote: and return your cubicle to it's former undecorated state Cubicle?? My desk is in a lab with five other coworkers, but anyway a pretty good idea !!!!!!! :-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D Christopher Duncan wrote: More guerilla tactics for Corporate Stupidity... No, it's called Coordinated Insanity !!!
Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
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Christopher Duncan wrote: and return your cubicle to it's former undecorated state Cubicle?? My desk is in a lab with five other coworkers, but anyway a pretty good idea !!!!!!! :-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D Christopher Duncan wrote: More guerilla tactics for Corporate Stupidity... No, it's called Coordinated Insanity !!!
Olli Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot......
:suss: :rolleyes: :suss:Be sure to post a link to the picture here when it's done! :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Ethics and rules are two different things. I try to be a very ethical employee ( for exmample, I would not write a mag or CP article that exposes stuff proprietary to work ), but as far as rules go, where I work is pretty relaxed about things that don't matter for people who understand what does matter, and apply themselves to it. That's how it should be - we're skilled workers, not plumbers. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: we're skilled workers, not plumbers. XQueeze me ?? Slagging plumbers now are we. See if you get any help the next time your crapper decides to no longer self drain itself. ;P Chris Meech. PS. The PE after my name stands for Plumber Extraordinaire.
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Well Do any of u have any Unconfortable/grudgy Rules in ur workplace... Well My friend always grudge abt her workplace becos they are not suppose to eat anything inside the cubicle or in office premise and so whenever she has to eat she has to do out and eat..Till now she didnt complain but since now she is pregnant :-D She feels more hungry and so she has to do lots of walking to get a bite of food ;P..I really feel pity of her... Do u too have such irritating rule......:wtf::omg: cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
There are a few rules that sorta bother me... dress code (no more coming to work in a dirty t-shirt & ripped jeans...), NTLM proxy (but i've found a good proxy for that now), not being able to install a fridge in my cube (but, *coolers* are ok, i think, even though mine does technically have a motor in it...), not being able to install a coffee maker in my cube... ...But overall, it's a great place to work. :)
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There are a few rules that sorta bother me... dress code (no more coming to work in a dirty t-shirt & ripped jeans...), NTLM proxy (but i've found a good proxy for that now), not being able to install a fridge in my cube (but, *coolers* are ok, i think, even though mine does technically have a motor in it...), not being able to install a coffee maker in my cube... ...But overall, it's a great place to work. :)
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Shog9 wrote: dress code :mad: Another one of those petty things that really gets my goat. How the hell does me wearing a tie make me write better code. Of course, these kind of rules are more the fault of our "appearance conscious" society. Michael Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.
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Ethics and rules are two different things. I try to be a very ethical employee ( for exmample, I would not write a mag or CP article that exposes stuff proprietary to work ), but as far as rules go, where I work is pretty relaxed about things that don't matter for people who understand what does matter, and apply themselves to it. That's how it should be - we're skilled workers, not plumbers. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Well Do any of u have any Unconfortable/grudgy Rules in ur workplace... Well My friend always grudge abt her workplace becos they are not suppose to eat anything inside the cubicle or in office premise and so whenever she has to eat she has to do out and eat..Till now she didnt complain but since now she is pregnant :-D She feels more hungry and so she has to do lots of walking to get a bite of food ;P..I really feel pity of her... Do u too have such irritating rule......:wtf::omg: cheers, Super ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
I don't work there, but I know people who do. For those who don't know, Paychex is a payroll and accounting company based in Rochester, New York USA. It's run by an ego-maniac named Tom Galisano who has lost bids for Governor. Anyway, here are some of the rules that I've heard from this jail: - Women cannot wear slacks... skirts and dresses only. - Men must wear white shirts. - Blinds must be adjusted so they slant at same angle and must always be fully closed (no bare glass). - No personal pictures or other articles. - If you wear boots to work in the winter, you must change into dress shoes and place boots in desk drawer. I could not imagine working for a company like that. How do you respect a business that has wastes so much energy coming up with and enforcing this crap? -John "You don't love a woman because she is beautiful. She is beautiful because you love her." - Anonymous